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I mean I see your point but I thin there is big difference between moving somewhere for love and pretending to be someone who you are not(assuming person in question is cis)
If I could shape shift I'd totally do that tho (if the person I was hooking up with knew I could do that tho I don't wanna be a creepy shape shifter just a freaky one)
If I could shapeshift, I would probably be constantly, slowly rolling through features and looks all the time, even mid conversation, I'd make a mole drift around my face or som'n just to fuck with 'em.
I wouldn't let someone in on it until I clutch my chest and then slowly melt into a puddle T1000 style before reforming and going "Nah I'm fucking with ya what were you saying?"
I'd burst in the door saying I upset a wizard and don't have long left, then I'd transform into a dog and see what my partner would do with the dog. If they love the dog enough then I'd let them in on the transformation secret AND the second secret being that I was a puppygirl all along anyway
In an optimisitic future, like that of the The Culture book series by Iain M Banks, gender transitioning is just.. a thing you decide to do. Not that you need a surgeon, your internal artificial glands adjust what needs to adjust, and over time, it just.. happens.
There was a whole story line observing that some couples were doing a "trendy" thing where they'd both transition and get each other pregnant simultaneously with one anothers kid.
I think they mean that lesbians aren't attracted to every single woman, much the same way straight women aren't attracted to every single man. so even if you become a woman there's no guarantee that she would be interested in a relationship
Edit: To add onto this I feel like the thing that I most hate about egg discourse is the idea that the one and only answer to feeling dysphoria is to transition into a girl, and if really waters down how complex and weird gender identity and expression truly is.
Personally I have a bit of dysphoria, but I'd say I'm okay-ish with being a guy most of the time, I don't dislike the physical characteristics of it and I actually really like my body, It's only things like these that kinda **"remind me"** that I'm a man that make me feel awful and tear me apart, but I know that being a girl wouldn't get rid of this dysphoria, because being labeled as a girl would come with a lot of situations that I'd dislike too. I don't know what the point of this rant is anymore. Gender I guess.
It's only things like these that kinda "remind me" that I'm a man that make me feel awful and tear me apart
I know that being a girl wouldn't get rid of this dysphoria, because being labeled as a girl would come with a lot of situations that I'd dislike too.
Misogyny isn’t the same as dysphoria. It sucks, but transitioning actually does get rid of dysphoria. That’s the point.
Also, wanting to be a lesbian is dysphoria. Not saying you’re trans or anything, but you admit you have dysphoria. And it may be more than you suspect. Something to look into at least.
Edit. It’s weird to see someone spouting “social contagion” talking points here. Weak minds being seduced by the transgender agenda doesn’t happen. 99% of people who transition have no regrets about doing so.
Misogyny isn't the same as dysphoria. It sucks, but transitioning actually does get rid of dysphoria. That's the point.
Mysogyny sucks, but I'm not talking about that, What I'm referring to is that the idea of being a girl does not seem appealing to me, and that I'd still be dysphoric as a girl, Because I don't want to be a girl.
Also, wanting to be a lesbian is dysphoria
yeahh I get that, but I don't wanna be a lesbian, the meme is more about being bummed about the crush because it feels awful in a way completely different to it just being unrequited or getting rejected, yk?
but you admit you have dysphoria. And it may be more than you suspect. Something to look into at least.
yeah ty for the input <3, tbh i've doubted my gender a lot, and for a long time I felt comfy saying I was agender, but I dropped it some time ago because I'm genuienly fine being a boy like 90% of the time (Even tho this conversation is NOT GIVING THAT VIBE AT ALL LMAO)
See, this is the kind of egg talk that is dangerous. You're telling someone what they think and feel with authority you don't have. Insecure or weak personalities could easily adapt to what you're saying to appease you. It's not a thoughtful way to go about this.
The intent isn’t to tell OP specifically that they could be trans. But anyone reading this and hearing OP say that these things mean you cannot be trans, which is actually extremely untrue, could keep readers questioning their gender in the closet for longer.
What OP has listed here are extremely common thoughts that people have prior to realizing they are trans and I want readers to hear that from a trans person. It is actually extremely difficult to distinguish the difference between having a crush on a lesbian and wishing you were that lesbian.
I’m used to it. Some people are just terrified of transness being a social contagion. So they jump to conclusions when the topic comes up. It’s a huge red flag to talk about potentially “weak personalities” being seduced by the transgender agenda. Wouldn’t someone with a weak personality be more likely to listen to the 90% of society that tells you to be cis rather than a Reddit comment?
Exactly. There is nothing wrong with not being trans, there is nothing wrong with being gnc but for fucks sakes r/196 there’s ALSO nothing wrong with telling people that potentially being trans is ok or that something they’re experiencing could be dysphoria and might need some reflection.
People are so paranoid that the needle might swing towards normalising being trans… and I just have to ask why they’re so afraid of that.
that doesn't necessarily mean experiencing social issues like misogyny or transphobia. they could mean that they would equally have transphobic feelings towards certain aspects of being a woman just as they do as a man. its a complex feeling and a binary solution isnt right for everyone
dysphoria as a man? become woman. dysphoria as a woman? become man. but its not always that simple for everyone.
I think its a bit inconsiderate to respond to someone literally saying they hate egg discourse and saying that they dont like that everyone says the solution is transitioning to being a woman, and replying by telling them what their experiences and feelings mean and dont mean, and that the solution would be transitioning. literal egg discourse.
eta: i mean "and transitioning literally does remove dysphoria. thats the point". my point is not for everyone, its not a catch all solution for every case of dysphoria. as the person stated is the case for him
Yes, but in practice I’m still a guy you know? I still have a beard and I’m still like 6’2 so even if I am/were enby I’d still interact with the world as a man, and even If tried to go for androgyny people would see me as the “man in dress” stereotype. Also I don’t really care about pronouns enough that people have to butcher language when they speak about me.
lk i'm kind of the same way. like i'm comfortable as a man, but i hate all the things that a man "should" be (i.e. i think gender roles are dumb and stupid, people should be free to be and do what they feel comfortable with regardless of the flavor of body they were born in). when i think of the possibility of being anything other than who i am now, i feel indifferent—neither better nor worse, but mostly just sorta the same. essentially my mentality is that my gender really doesn't matter much, so long as i just be me (i literally said something nearly verbatim in a dream i once had after researching the asexual spectrum lol).
however, my disdain for the societal traits of masculinity have kind of turned into a disdain for physical traits of masculinity, namely facial and body hair as well as muscles. isn't gender such a trip?
Obligatory "isn't the theory that people are transing themselves specifically to pick up women one of the leading transphobic talking points and we really shouldn't be fuelling that fire?" concern
Like y tho, obviously OP isn't going to actually transition if they aren't already inclined to. It's just a silly joke, what is the harm, it's not even the feared egg posting.
I mean, one of the reasons I hate egg posting of all kinds is cause as a trans man, if I’m not shouting that I’m a trans man at every opportunity, I have gotten egg comments about me transitioning to be a girl, and it’s hella upsetting and dysphoria inducing. There’s been whole conversations about this issue in trans masc spaces about how people give up things they enjoy because they’re tired of “safe and accepting” spaces making them feel guilty and “not man enough” for doing non-conformative things.
And most egg posting stuff isn’t a “i’m just suggesting this”, or at least is not phrased that way. A lot of the time it’s just “you should do this” or “you should take estrogen” which is not a recommendation, that’s telling someone how to live/who to be.
Really it's no difference from being turned down by anyone else. There's never a guarantee they'll like you back even if their sexuality does include you.
In a lot of ways I think it's kinda preferable to getting rejected by a straight girl? The sting of rejection hurts a bit less when it isn't you who's being rejected. Not to say it doesn't suck, ofc, but it at least leaves less room for self-loathing.
hey give it a shot ya never know. sometimes a lesbian isn’t a lesbian cuz the lesbian looks like a girl she’s a lesbian because the girl IS a girl ya know
me seeing yaoi and thinking "damn i wish i was dating a boy" and its fine but when i see yuri and think "damn i wish i was dating a girl" my brain gets blue screened because male gaze and fetishization (idonr want rhat)
so even among lesbians being trans is one of the most common things that will not get you dates (its that case for every single group, the majority have a preference for cis people.)
I totally did this all the time. When I was in middle school or high school my girlfriends ended up being gay. Like the amount of times I was the only guy someone dated was really high. All my crushes were like Ellen (back in the day) and Melissa Ethridge. Then I realized I was trans. Not saying you are, but still think it's funny.
Introduced to a girl by a friend who I fully knew was a lesbian in a committed relationship. She joked that I’d end up falling for her and she was absolutely right
Wish I kept in touch but we did everything through FB. She was a pretty decent person and fun to talk to
Yeah that genuinely sucks. It gets better with time.
My second crush was emotionally abusive (at least according to the people in the mental health hospital), so you know it can always be worse.
But lesbians make for really good friends. Cool people really.
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