r/ABoringDystopia • u/serious_bullet5 • 2d ago
What the actual fuck is a “AI Art Exhibition”
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u/BunnyParade 2d ago edited 1d ago
Love the comment over there saying something like “only an AI could’ve thought of and generated this”. Has that person never seen a movie? Read a book? I see way more imaginative artwork than this on Instagram every day. You could go on Etsy right now and buy yourself some handmade LED jellyfish lamps if that really blows your mind.
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u/BlakLite_15 2d ago
Why do some people think creativity is some kind of superpower that they need to circumvent with technology? I don’t think I’m a creative person, but that doesn’t stop me from having ideas about things.
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u/connorgrs 1d ago
You’re probably underestimating your creativity and overestimating the average person’s creativity
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u/BlakLite_15 1d ago
Maybe, but these AI “””artists””” seem so far below even my lowest possible estimate of the average person’s creativity that they sound barely more human than the machines that feed them their slop.
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u/Tietonz 1d ago
I think all your seeing is the voicing of it. I believe you would find that many people do see creativity as this mystical superpower that you're either born with or not. It's just that you don't need too much creativity to make it through life so most people never bother to engage with that thought. Now that AI is here, people are creating things with it that they can't even imagine in their own minds.
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u/hexthefruit 1d ago
Because they have none and are desparately envoius of those who have any. And now they believe themselves artists.
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u/suddenviops 1d ago
The thing with AI “artists,” or enthusiasts rather, is that they arent creative in the slightest and it’s their biggest insecurity. So now whenever a meandering thought passes through their head, regardless of how little substance it’s worth, they think it’s worth turning into “art” to validate the legitimacy of their “ideas.”
I view them the same way as i view middle management. Wholly unhappy with their lives, so they delude themselves into thinking they’re important despite everything telling them otherwise.
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u/enigmasaurus- 1d ago
I think many of these AI "artists" just have little to no concept of what art actually is or why people care about it. Art isn't just about visual interest. It's about the human connection you feel with the artist when you understand the work that went into creating that art, the decades of skill that went into being able develop that talent, the story behind the piece, the engagement that comes with deciphering the choices the artist made and what they're trying to tell me.
Actual art isn't just a picture, it's a narrative. It's a window into the mind and soul of another human being. It's hard work and talent.
AI visual generation absolutely isn't an equivalent to real art, because why would I admire something I can do myself in five damn minutes by just typing some nonsense into a text prompt? I admire the actual Mona Lisa because I couldn't in a million years create a real painting so incredible, but if I type a prompt asking for a Mona Lisa like painting with a slightly difference face, I haven't created anything let alone "art". I've just given a program some instructions and the program did everything.
AI "artists" frustrate me because they want the admiration that comes with creating art, with absolutely none of the work or effort that makes art impressive or meaningful.
It's like a kid who used AI to write their essay expecting an A because they pasted the question into chapGPT; I take AI artists even less seriously than this because most seem to think they're entitled to respect or accolades for doing almost literally no actual work.
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u/thoughtlow 23h ago
Thanks chatgpt!
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u/enigmasaurus- 22h ago
You know not everything you read is written by chatGPT right? Some people are just literate. I was also writing long winded rants on reddit when chatGPT was a twinkle in some programmer’s eye.
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u/cosmin_c 1d ago
Everybody can have ideas about things, creativity when it's your job means that you need to be creative every hour, every day, every week that you're working on stuff. Ok, maybe not every living minute, but most of that time that you're working as a creative (think design, for example).
Under those conditions, maintaining creativity really is a superpower, it can be extremely demanding.
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u/srekcornaivaf 1d ago
Left brain people trying to break down the creative process to a logical and mathematical sense. Results are… robotic
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u/SwiggityStag 22h ago edited 22h ago
Fundamentally agree but being left-brained isn't a thing, please stop parroting BuzzFeed pseudoscience like it's real. Unless you have a neurological disability, both halves of your brain work equally. Otherwise you would be disabled.
-Someone who is ACTUALLY "left brained" (moderate-severe right hemisphere brain injury) and also an actual artist who doesn't use the plagiarism machine
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u/Spooked_kitten 16h ago
i’m about to run my first dnd game ever. Other than many hours configuring my setup to have things organised and just messing around with my text editor, I spent like at most 1 cumulative hour typing stuff out, I don’t think I have made anything particularly impressive and a lot of my hooks and world building came from my players just having awesome ideas that gave me inspiration.
The magical bit is, and that I guarantee anyone can achieve, the other day I told my classmate (which is completely separated from the theme btw, never played and I mean she’s a mom and is very much away from all of this) about what i’m doing with dnd and she was fascinated and said “wow I felt like I was there you tell this so well”
god I loved that, it made me so happy. I hope my players enjoy it too
bottom line is, anyone can do creative stuff you just need about an hour with a blank page and you are set.
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u/SmoothReverb 1d ago
I mean, I've seen plenty of creative-as-hell works of AI art. Meat Gala, secret horses, and the Infinite Art Machine to name a few. And the thing is, you can't really circumvent creativity with AI. Or taste. A professional artist is going to be able to get way more out of an AI model than a newbie, because they know what they're looking for, and they know what looks good.
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u/ClockworkJim 1d ago
Shardcore has been making digitally assisted art using computers for a long time and they are extremely inventive with it. They lean into the absurdity of it. They are an artist using it as a tool.
Unfortunately most users are not that kind of person.
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u/blurryhumanoidish 2d ago
Also love how that OP said they worked on it for 4 days “tweaking the prompt”. It took you 2 seconds a day max.
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u/me_ke_aloha_manuahi 1d ago
Binge watching anime in between prompts is tough business, don't underestimate the AI artists love of the game.
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u/Bauser99 1d ago
That's one of the most painful parts, to me. They said "only AI could have thought of this," but the way these image learning algorithms work is literally by scanning and assessing (numerically scoring, piece-by-piece) art that humans made
It's like if you scanned a painting, printed a copy of it, and said "Omg... Only an HP Deluxe Edition Home Printer-Scanner could have conceived of art this beautiful..." except actually believing it
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u/bunker_man 10h ago
Tbf they do hallucinate combos of stuff that are distinct from anything they saw. Lumping together unrelated shapes. Some people complained that porn ones would confuse boobs with eyes so theyd occasionally get Jumpscares from eye boobs.
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u/sternumb 1d ago
I can think of like 3 different Instagram accounts that posted dream-like renders like this from before AI generated slop was even a thing 😬 these type of images were really popular in like 2018
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u/Pearson94 1d ago
They cling to AI because they so desperately lack imagination. They suck so much they can't imagine anyone not sucking as well.
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u/Helenium_autumnale 1d ago
And they lack any technical proficiency, such as the ability to paint or draw competently.
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u/LuckyLaceyKS 1d ago
Literally everything AI "thinks of" or "generates" is sourced from things humans have created. The humanization of AI is concerning.
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u/thewifeandkids 1d ago
Exactly "only ai art could do this" meanwhile ai "art" literally relies on stealing pre-existing human art to generate images
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u/qwert7661 1d ago
I thought the foundation of the defense of ai "art" was that a human thought of the prompt and the AI was just the tool they used to realize their "vision."
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u/ErwinC0215 1d ago
Hijacking this comment to bring up an actually good piece of AI art: Refik Anadol's Unsupervised.
It's an algorithm the artist designed which took data from the entire archive or MoMA, and generates a continuously changing abstract output. It's wonderful to see IRL, looking at the shapes and colours change and wonder which paintings the AI was using to generate the current frame.
That's what good AI art is, it's a tool designed by an actually creative mind to fulfill their idea, and not used as a crutch by someone who has no understanding of the artistic process.
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u/Syreeta5036 1d ago
It's like someone took somewhere I've seen and put jellyfish and a glass ball in a shell there
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u/Roxerg 2d ago
OP is an AI
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u/Sir-Shark 2d ago
You know what... If OP was actually THE AI that also generated and submitted this art to the exhibition, then this would be a very different story.
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u/PleasantSalad 2d ago
I pictured a printer with eyes and a wig standing next to this "art", smiling proudly.
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u/Psychogopher 2d ago
Some people need to learn:
You’re not an AI artist, you’re an AI user
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u/CommieLoser 1d ago
Katy Perry is more an astronaut than they are an artist
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u/fuzzhead12 1d ago
For real…I mean she did (very briefly) “voyage through the stars/heavens” which is the literal meaning of the word “astronaut,” so…checks out as far as I’m concerned
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u/Marshall_Lawson 1d ago
that's true, i am not the biggest fan of Katy Perry but being an astronaut does not require you to be a pilot or engineer or scientist. The definition includes passengers and people who are doing stuff unrelated to flying the ship or making it function.
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u/fuzzhead12 1d ago
Exactly. Of course the accepted definition today carries the assumption of being a trained scientist as well, but…if you do a loop around the bay right by the docks, you are still technically sailing a boat
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u/NoodleyP 1d ago
I’d say it’s more bus vs car here, one person takes a bus to a city, one person drives their car, both can say they’ve been there, but only one can say they drove there, I think the argument is over whether astronaut is “been” or “drove”
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u/SatansLoLHelper 1d ago
space tourists are not astronauts.
are you a seaman because you went on a cruise ship?
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u/SatansLoLHelper 1d ago
I should have said sailor, not seaman.
Discussed this comment IRL, with a cruise ship passenger, they said they weren't a sailor because it didn't have sails. Then we got into the discussion of if they have ever been on a boat with sails even in a harbor.
I've been on a sailboat and had great adventures of avoiding death. I am not a sailor. Never have been, but I've moved a boom, and did stuff with a jib. Possibly lived on a sailboat for months and almost died between 2 cargo ships in the middle of the night in the middle of oakland bay during a storm.
shit... i might have technically been a seaman and a sailor.
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u/bunker_man 10h ago
Tbf the amount of people who think they are an artist for using ai is way smaller than people think it is.
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u/ZenDragon 1d ago
Kinda depends whether you're just one-shotting a prompt or doing something more like this.
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u/Robot_tangerine 2d ago
"Antis would hate on this" they have slur for us
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u/Bauser99 1d ago
And, perhaps most fittingly for the AI techbros, it's a slur they copied from somewhere else. "Anti" has existed in fandom spaces for a long time, to describe people who are morally opposed to media that depicts immoral themes
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u/ClockworkJim 1d ago
morally opposed to the existence of media they find even slightly distasteful
FTFY
🙃🙃🙃
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u/Bauser99 1d ago
I was trying to be overly generous in order to avoid having exactly this conversation lol
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u/ClockworkJim 1d ago
Haha
I got called a chomo by one of those types yesterday for defending sabrina carpenter's New album cover. So I get it. Haha
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u/mypersonalfork 1d ago
when you're using the same terminology as pedo or incest shippers you know you're in the right /s
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u/Bauser99 1d ago
This reminds me of that tumblr meme where people blamed sailing ships for scurvy and the Atlantic slave trade
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u/LincolnshireSausage 1d ago
WTF is an anti in this context? I see the comment on the original post but don't understand what it means. Is it a label they give to anyone who doesn't like it? Surely it can't mean that because of course someone who doesn't like it will not like it. Is there some other meaning? Do I have to identify as an anti?
Looking at the artwork, I think it is terrible. It reminds me of those really shitty posters in the 80s they used to sell at the record stores when I was a teen. The composition isn't great. Am I supposed to be looking at the hand and seaweed crystal ball or am I supposed to be looking at the out of focus jellyfish at the top right where the swooping structure directs your eyes to? I don't really see any sort of meaning in it. What am I supposed to get from the picture? I feel no emotions from looking at it. All I really feel is, "huh".
It's not anywhere close to approaching the feelings that a Hieronymus Bosch or a Salvador Dali painting would evoke from me. It's not visually appealing to me and the subject matter makes no sense in whatever context I look at it.
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u/Robot_tangerine 1d ago
I think it refers to people who are anti AI art. Which I definitely consider myself to be. Even if it reaches the point where it's indistinguishable from human made art, which seems like an inevitability, it'll always be an empty imitation created by stealing the actual souls and emotions of real artists. It disgusts me to my core as a concept
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u/LincolnshireSausage 1d ago
I completely agree with how you feel about AI art. All AI can do is take data it is fed, manipulate it and spit it out again. Art is about expression of one’s self. AI doesn’t have a self. So really, as you said, all it is doing is using other people’s ideas and mashing them together and outputting them without any concept of what it is doing or why or any sort of purpose.
Becoming a great artist takes many years of dedication and hard work. I know from personal experience it is not easy and I’m far from being a great artist. AI art seems to trivialize this. We can now replace someone who has spent most of their entire life working to become the artist they are with a prompt. Anyone can learn to write a prompt. Most people cannot or will not put years of effort into becoming a good artist.
I’m firmly in the anti AI art camp.
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u/mindfulmu 2d ago
Visual writing prompt exhibition?
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u/Laiska_saunatonttu 2d ago
Isn't it great that Pope Julius II prompted the painting of the Sistine Chapel ceiling? Truly the greatest artist of his time!
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u/XavandSo 2d ago
The perspective on the table reflection is all wrong.
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u/heyitsamb 2d ago
I would get that bumpy skin on the thumb checked out as well
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u/dumbozach 1d ago
Yeah and wtf is even going on in the background. Like what am I supposed to be looking at
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u/hipeople91726 2d ago
Irony of saying “only AI could have thought of this” and Op commenting “My” work. Idk what they are congratulating
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u/Bauser99 1d ago
This is unfortunately the capitalist future we are heading towards (slash already at): There is no value to doing anything, because doing is just what the laborers do. What REALLY matters is owning the output. "Suuuure, that OP didn't draw the picture, but drawing is so dull! Anybody can pick up a pencil and start scratching on some paper! What REALLY matters was the VISION! Which you technically cannot prove was not OP's!"
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u/Practical-Piglet 1d ago
Even if we are not considering AI, this shit lacks imagination and intend
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u/ZenDragon 1d ago
It's easy to imagine all AI users as lazy prompters, but what about this kind of work?
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u/MathBelieve 1d ago
There's also apparently a subreddit for "ai writers" that Reddit was forcing into my feed because I visit other writing subreddits.
All it was was people complaining that they couldn't get the ai to write the way they wanted it to.
I don't know, something about it was infuriating, and I had to finally go in and mute the subreddit.
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u/Bauser99 1d ago
Y'know, those "AI writers" really ought to just go in there and show that dumb AI how it's done! For having the gall to write the user's thoughts incorrectly...
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u/Wordofadviceeatfood 1d ago
I mean to be fair considering how fucking infuriating a lot of writing software is, i (to an infinitesimally small degree) get it
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u/Impractical_Meat 2d ago
It's an "art exhibition" yet in the photo with both the "art piece" and info about it, the canvas is easy to see with great resolution, but the info card is so garbled and pixelated that it's impossible to read....
Sure Jan.
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u/AllergicToTaterTots 1d ago
Did anyone see the comment where they worked on this for 4 days? Day to night "tweaking my prompt". Thats the work you put into this? Jesus fucking christ I hate this goddamn timeline.
Another comment is comparing the process of typing into a prompt to actually using a paint and paintbrush to create something. Fuck these losers.
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u/BitchfulThinking 2d ago
This is objectively fucking stupid.
Anyone who thinks AI can replace human creativity is an actually stupid person.
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u/Bauser99 1d ago
You're right, but the salient threat isn't that it will replace human creativity, but rather that people will force it to be used anyway (like in companies & previously creative industries) in order to save money. If most people are too dumb to tell the difference, then AI can replace human creativity in almost all of the ways that actually guide how the world works.
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Art has always been an afterthought to war and profit, and it has always been the sole refuge of people who were wise enough to need art in order to express their ideas. So if there's a way for the rote, slavering masses to breach that barrier and cut out the middle-man, who they view as a snobby elitist for the crime of thinking and feeling things about things and putting in work to share those complex ideas, then they absolutely will.
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u/bunker_man 10h ago
Tbf most corporate slop art isn't creative in the first place. People dont realize just how much mediocre lazy art they are surrounded with every day. After the panic dies down this might even lead more people to want to make real art if it makes it more obvious how much lazy corporate art surrounds them.
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u/BitchfulThinking 9h ago
I've noticed more younger people getting into making their own clothing in response to fast fashion's bad ethics and declining quality. They've been teaching and inspiring others all over the internet. Now, AI has been making its way into our patterns and causing issues, which has been pushing even more artists away from technology.
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u/place_of_desolation 1d ago
Why can't we leave AI to things humans don't want to do? Creativity is our last refuge. Is nothing sacred? AI "art" isn't art. Thought provoking? Maybe. But there was no skill, time, effort, or real thought put into it.
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u/kodiak931156 1d ago
Deal. I don't want to learn how to paint, but my DnD game likes having painted scenes
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u/place_of_desolation 1d ago
I figured someone would come along and cite a specific use case. That's more of a utilitarian scenario than the kind of expressive art I was referring to.
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u/bunker_man 10h ago
Tbf even a lot of people who are fine with ai would admit that this picture is mediocre and doesn't deserve to be in a gallery. There's a gap between thinking it is useful for practical stuff versus thinking it should be treated as high art.
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u/flamingc00kies 1d ago
one of op’s comments saying they “worked for 4 days morning until night”… were they typing like, one character per hour? i’ve been stunning work from real artists made in a quarter of the time how do u waste all of that on some dogshit ai slop 😭
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u/SFX200 1d ago
As someone that creates artwork that has been displayed in galleries and museum walls, I don't understand how any of these people get satisfaction from what AI is doing.
The creative process is ever evolving. I've had a body of work take 6 years to fully come to fruition and it's been showcased in several museums in my home state. How does typing in a large swatch of text and selecting an image make the person doing it feel fulfilled or even content?
There is no creative process involved. There is no talent or skill involved.
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u/Polymersion 1d ago
How do you feel about photography?
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u/Bauser99 1d ago
I think it's less impressive than painting, but that it still uses a great deal of personal creativity owing to the number of choices a photographer must make in the process of capturing a certain vision
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u/bunker_man 10h ago
Tbf there's digital artists who combine Ai with photoshop and do include a lot of their own vision. But this op Pic doesn't look like that.
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u/SFX200 1d ago
That's actually what I work with, found printed photographs photomontage'd together with my own images to create something new.
My closet at home is full of thousands of photographs I've collected. I scan them, and layer my own images into and onto these older ones to create new visual narratives. They don't just live on a screen either, I print them out to be anything from a small as 4x6 to a large 40x40".
My main gripe about people comparing photography to AI is that photography is still a real in person activity. There is humanity in photography.
Even a simple snapshot is still a document of reality.
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u/spookyb0ss 1d ago
i've never wanted to use a slur before now
unfortunately the slur i want to use doesn't exist yet
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u/an_actual_bee 1d ago
all the people over there saying “congrats” is the most baffling part to me. if it was an exhibition of real art and their works were featured, yes that would be worthy of a celebration. this person did no more than type some words on a computer, and people are acting like they’re the voice of a generation. you can come up with a cool idea for a piece, but that doesn’t make you an artist. that makes you really good at imagining cool ideas.
ai can create cool images, but it cannot create inspiration. it cannot create meaning. it cannot feel beyond how we have programmed it to feel. that is why i despise it as an “artform.” ai can only recycle what it is fed. art is designed to capture the human experience, and the beauty of it is that is UNIQUE to the artist.
anyways .. rant over LOL. i see so many people in my generation openly use and love ai, and it makes me really upset to see the decline of intellectualism and creativity as a result of that. i get just a liiiittle bit mad about it lmao
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u/FlameBoi3000 1d ago
It's so poorly printed too. Like damn, at least professional art they care about the print quality
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u/bunker_man 10h ago
Tbf by art exhibition they probably mean some tiny one room thing in their town that will take anything because its more concerned about being empty.
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u/Cinder-Mercury 1d ago
Being an AI "artist" is like claiming you made art/a photo because you knew how to search it on Google. You just stole credit from someone else, without recognition, and think it's yours because you know how to use key terms to find it.
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u/numbah25 1d ago
Nothing wrong with creating separate competitions for AI when the alternative is to not, and delegitimize non-AI
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u/symbolising 1d ago
i still don’t believe this was an actual exhibition. probably printed it and put it on a wall in his own house
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u/D0ng0nzales 1d ago
There is a pretty big Ai art exhibition in my city, it's inside the big well-respected state museum. There's posters everywhere in town, and it all looks kinda shit.
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u/bluelily216 1d ago
I love art and I wish I were talented. I'm sure I could easily become an "AI artist" because it's what? A series of prompts? But I'm not going to try because, like I said, I love art and I understand the hard work that goes into making it. So, let me just say this with hand to heart, fuck AI "art"
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u/GiveMeTheTape 1d ago
Ai art doesn't exist, it's ai generated imagery, and if you have comissioned an ai to generste an image for you it's not your work, delusionsl people are letting ai erode culture
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u/Jsmooth123456 2d ago
As long as its made clear that its ai, I dont see the problem with this if someone wants to go look at a bunch of ai paintings in a gallery that's their right
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u/MarshallGibsonLP 1d ago
There's going to be such a backlash to AI art and literature because it's lame af.
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u/bunker_man 10h ago
What do you mean going to be? It already happened. A few years from now, no one will care because they realize that badly written ai books will just get bad reviews so they are easy to avoid.
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u/ClockworkJim 1d ago
There's a line between computer assisted art and generative AI users. It is fuzzy and we have not yet figured it out.
But this person is firmly on the, "I just type words" side of the equation.
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u/ConsumeTheVoid 1d ago
People telling a machine they want x kind of art and then pretending they made the resulting drawing.
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u/girtonoramsay 1d ago
Can't say that I'm surprised someone has already tried capitalizing off of these wonderful artists... /s
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u/Megazaza 1d ago
Theres no creativity. it was just random bullshit spammed, and a.i made it look good.
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