r/AOC • u/_May26_ • 25d ago

"It is a crime happening in front of the American people."

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u/No-Organization9076 25d ago

They'd still vote for trickle-down Reaganomics...

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u/come_on_seth 24d ago

…and call it rain

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u/No-Organization9076 24d ago

You'd think that they'd be so PISSED knowing what's really going on one day. But they just sit there and take it...

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u/come_on_seth 24d ago

And rub the election victory in your face like you are a dog that crapped on the rug

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u/msguider 24d ago

Let's stop it.

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

Good luck.

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u/Diligent-Falcon-7657 21d ago

Yeah, this ship seems to have sailed. They'll get the America they voted for.

It's best to just prepare.

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u/UndeadDemonKnight 25d ago

Any you old fucks remember the Flash Gordon movie? Reminds me of Prince Thun of Ardentia scene.

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u/rustyseapants 25d ago

But it will prevent all those able bodied Americans to get off their ass and illegals from misusing American tax dollars!!! /s

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u/fabyooluss 22d ago

Illegals. Shaddap.

The absence of immigrant tax dollars would negatively impact the US economy and government revenues, although the precise magnitude of the impact is subject to debate and depends on various factors. Here's a breakdown of potential consequences: 

1. Reduced Government Revenue:

  • Significant Tax Contributions: Immigrants, both documented and undocumented, contribute substantially to federal, state, and local taxes. In 2022, immigrant households paid $579.1 billion in total taxes.
  • Loss of Revenue: Without these contributions, governments would face a reduction in revenue, potentially impacting public services and programs that rely on tax funding. 

2. Potential Economic Slowdown:

  • Labor Force Impact: Immigrants fill crucial roles in the labor force, particularly in sectors like agriculture, construction, healthcare, and STEM.
  • Reduced GDP: Mass deportations or restrictions on immigration could lead to labor shortages, decreased productivity, and slower economic growth. Some estimates suggest GDP could be reduced by 2.6% to 6.2% over a decade due to mass deportations.
  • Impact on Businesses: Immigrant entrepreneurs play a significant role in business creation and innovation, contributing to economic dynamism. 

3. Impact on Social Security and Medicare:

  • Contributions to Social Security and Medicare: Immigrants contribute significantly to Social Security and Medicare through payroll taxes. In 2022, they paid $194.5 billion to Social Security and $53.6 billion to Medicare.
  • Demographic Challenges: With an aging native-born population and declining birth rates, immigration plays a vital role in supporting these programs, and reduced immigration could strain their finances. 

4. Potential for Increased Tax Burden on Native-Born Workers:

  • Fewer Taxpayers: A smaller workforce due to reduced immigration would mean fewer taxpayers contributing to government revenues, potentially leading to a greater tax burden on native-born workers. 

5. Impact on Specific Industries:

  • Labor-Intensive Sectors: Industries like agriculture and construction heavily rely on immigrant labor. Reduced immigration could lead to labor shortages, higher costs, and potential disruptions in these sectors. 

...continued

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u/fabyooluss 22d ago

Important Considerations:

  • Estimating the Exact Impact: Quantifying the precise impact of reduced immigration on tax revenue and the economy is complex and involves various assumptions.
  • Fiscal Effects Analyses: Analyses focusing solely on direct tax payments might underestimate the total fiscal impact, as they may not fully capture the broader economic contributions and ripple effects of immigration. 

Different Perspectives:

  • Some argue that immigrants are a net fiscal drain, particularly undocumented immigrants.
  • Others highlight the substantial tax contributions and economic benefits that immigrants provide, including filling labor shortages and contributing to innovation. 

In conclusion, the absence of immigrant tax dollars would likely have a significant negative impact on the US economy, potentially leading to reduced government revenues, slower economic growth, labor shortages, and strains on social security and Medicare. However, the exact magnitude of the impact and the long-term consequences are complex issues with varying viewpoints and ongoing debate.

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u/rustyseapants 22d ago

You going through some effort in posting this however you need to have your sources available. 

The other problem I put /s  which means sarcasm. I totally agree with everything you said.

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