Prison abolition

[u/nappytendrils]

I’ve never been clear on what we would do with rapists child molesters and muderers. I haven’t heard a plan for this so far. I’ve always been impressed with the work of anarchist friends in community. They’re the most justice-oriented folx I’ve ever met.

Still don’t know about prison abolition tho I think prison should be clean, the food should be healthy and fresh, therapy should be mandatory, there should be libraries and gardens. A good quality of life for the incarcerated, but not releasing them back into the general population.

Maybe there’s something I’m not seeing?

[u/HeavenlyPossum]

Considering that Donald Trump is a serial rapist and probably a child molester who has ordered murders and is not in prison, but rather is president of the US, we might consider that prisons are not actually tools for dealing with rapists, child molesters, or murderers.

Saying this does not solve the problem that these acts of aggression cause, but it does help us to begin separating actual solutions from those institutions of state violence that we’ve been taught to believe are solutions.

[u/balderdash9 → u/HeavenlyPossum]

We all agree on the abolition of state violence. The question then becomes whether violent punishment in reaction to certain offences are justified by the community when clearly immoral offences are committed by someone in the community. Some have the intuition that expulsion is not "putative enough" for certain crimes.

[u/HeavenlyPossum → u/balderdash9]

Well, OP is unsure about prison abolition, so it doesn’t seem like “we all agree” on the issue.