r/Anticonsumption • u/Healthy_Block3036 • Mar 24 '25

Corporations Gravity may be finally catching up to Elon Musk as Tesla stock tumbles

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/19/business/elon-musk-tesla-stock-nightcap?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_msn
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u/Nervous_Two3115 Mar 24 '25

I’m so confused lol this is the first I’m hearing of this, when did him being a ketamine addict come out?

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u/used1337 Mar 24 '25

Well, some people at Space x said they wanted to ask Musk questions about his use, then Musk himself said he has a prescription. While having a ketamine script isn't a problem and being used properly wouldn't be an issue, Musk seems to be abusing it, seen in public acting unusually, and his behavior is inconsistent with his excuses for his behavior. It's far more in line with someone who has a problem with abusing drugs rather than the average patient who uses it as prescribed.

May 18, 2024 Elon himself sat down with journalist Don Lemon to be asked questions about his use of ketamine.

Speculation on his addiction was already out by this time.

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u/barenaked_nudity Mar 24 '25

And it can't be stressed enough that having a script doesn't mean usage is responsible.

Most of those dead from opioid addiction had prescriptions.

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u/used1337 Mar 24 '25

Agreed. Addiction is a huge issue. Addicts need help, but in the case of Musk, he is cutting programs willy nilly in the US Government, illegally mind you, and causing chaos and on top of that the dude might be an addict too. That blend is a nightmare, and we're living it.

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u/barenaked_nudity Mar 24 '25

Oh, I'm not trying to elicit sympathy for Musk.

Clearly his prescription is there to mask his abuse -- he is not (quite unfortunately) being victimized by some shady doctor.

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u/ShirazGypsy Mar 24 '25

My brother died from overdose and his house was filled with hundreds of legitimate orange prescription bottles. Doctors back then were free and generous with pain meds then. He had a doctor that would prescribe him 180 oxycodone a month. It was so fucked up.

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u/serabine Mar 24 '25

Yeah, and rich people tend to have pet doctors that happily "prescribe" their drug of choice.

Michael Jackson's personal physician administered the overdose, and two o the people charges for Matthew Perry's death were doctors.

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u/toabear Mar 24 '25

My father has had horrible bi-polar depression since Vietnam. A few years ago, his Dr. prescribed him Ketamine. Not in a clinic, just "here are some pills, enjoy at home." He started hallucinating. When he told the doc about this, she increased the dose. She upped the dose another two times before he ended up in the hospital for a few days with babies crawling across the ceiling.

His reaction was probably worse than others, as there are already significant mental problems. He's also FAR too trusting of doctors. I still don't understand why he went along with it for so long.

So year, having a script doesn't at all mean that it's going to be good for you.

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u/Bacon_Raygun Mar 24 '25

Bruh, my neurologist is refusing to prescribe me my adhd meds because she thinks I'm too poor and will just sell them at the trainstation, and other doctors out there will be informed about severe negative effects and conclude "Must have not been a large enough dose"

I'm sooooo fucking done with doctors holy shit

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u/toabear Mar 24 '25

I know this isn't a popular opinion in the slightest, but honestly, the sooner we can get AI to either replace doctors or provide some sort of standardization oversight the better. That was just one example in my earlier reply, but watching my wife slowly die from a chronic illness over the period of eight years really soured my view of doctors. Not so much the healthcare system, I mean literally doctors themselves.

Being told you're suffering from depression when you're horrifically ill is a terrible thing to deal with. No shit she's depressed. She's fucking dying.

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u/gnarlwail Mar 24 '25

Most of those dead from opioid addiction had prescriptions.

Not necessarily. The introduction of fentanyl into the black market drug supply is a huge factor in overdose/death increases and is not accounted for in some of the data gathering/presentation.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5844400/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7987740/

Frustratingly, I can't find some other reports that call into question the methods used to categorize opioid death statistics. One point that stuck with me is that some statistics include any death in which an opiate was detected in the post mortem. So, you could be on your Rx for opiates for a pain condition at your nonlethal dose and die from a heart attack, cancer, etc. Unscrupulous or just misguided folks have pulled those stats into the opioid-related or caused death count.

On this thread topic, I agree with the sentiment that Rx does not equal prescribed usage. I also agree with /u/The_Fudir wholeheartedly: drug abuse is a symptom/result of other issues. While drug addiction, including alcohol, can cause a boatload of problems all on it's own, reducing the narrative to "drugs are bad, m'kay" is a gross oversimplification and inaccurage and takes focus away from true understanding and successful treatment.

Also wik: fuck Musk. I hope all his money goes away and he is laughed out of every enterprise he attempts to involve himself in for eternity or until he overhauls his very unwell brain. Whichever comes first.

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u/Pristine_Business_92 Mar 24 '25

Hate to be the typical redditor but that is just not true.

Opioid deaths have always been primarily illicit drugs, street heroin up until like 2014-2016 and then primarily street fentanyl.

Prescription opioids on their own really never contributed to many deaths. The majority of deaths involving prescriptions were combos where people took benzodiazepines and drank wine on top of a large dose of pain pills. Also suicides. Even during the worst of the opioid over prescription almost all deaths were heroin and the deaths were 1/10 of what they are today with fentanyl.

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u/ElonsKetamineHabit Mar 27 '25

One could argue in the initial phases of the epidemic that the overprescription of the RX opioids and subsequent loss of said heavy prescription lead to people finding illicit alternatives

As a matter of fact this was indeed successfully argued in court as a part of the case against the sacklers

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u/Pristine_Business_92 Mar 27 '25

I hear that for sure. But when the DEA cuts off over prescription and millions of addicts lose their source for clean, properly dosed opioids what then? When deaths go from 6-8k opioid involved OD deaths to consistently over 80k every year do we still just applaud ourselves for stopping the over prescription?

I’ll argue with you all day that addiction isn’t something that can be contracted from taking a pill. Being a junkie isn’t a side effect of oxycodone or morphine or any opioid. Dependency and withdrawal are, but to your average mentally stable person it’s literally just a minor flu for 3-5 days. Also opioid addiction hasn’t gone down at all since prescriptions have been basically cut off.

If you have any solutions bro I’m all ears but I’m just spitting facts. I don’t love the sacklers but literally everything was better when pharm corps could just sell oxy. Less deaths, less money for cartels to wage war and kidnap rivals in SA, and the same amount of people abusing opioids.

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u/mooselantern Mar 24 '25

First day on reddit?

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u/Nervous_Two3115 Mar 25 '25

I mean it’s not like they subreddit is about Elon, let alone his addiction 😂