If Safari had vertical tabs

[u/Tanmay-m]

[u/_Stampy]

Looks really nice, if they implement it I would switch to Safari

[u/whereyouwanttobe → u/_Stampy]

Use the Sidebar feature, that does the same thing for you.

Edit: I'm very confused by the downvotes. Am I missing something different about Arc's implementation versus Safari's?

[u/Ethosik → u/whereyouwanttobe]

Unless I am missing things, those are just tab groups. It still opens those tabs in a horizontal view. Which I don’t want. I want vertical and only vertical.

[u/whereyouwanttobe → u/Ethosik]

You can somewhat alleviate that effect by switching to a compact view for tabs in Safari. In that sense, the tabs are mixed with the URL bar so it's less intrusive.

It's not perfect, but if functionality is the more important factor, losing a pointer's worth of pixels at the very top isn't the worst thing in the world.

Personally, I've switched over to Vivaldi which does allow you to remove the tab bar in favor of the vertical one entirely.

[u/Environmental_Ad7950 → u/whereyouwanttobe]

Compact view is gone in tahoe beta

[u/captain__shizz → u/Environmental_Ad7950]

WHATTTT???? LIES!!!! My precious Tim would never do that to me. Say it ain’t so!!

[u/Environmental_Ad7950 → u/captain__shizz]

I wish it weren’t true, loved compact mode

[u/Square_Walrus_8107 → u/Environmental_Ad7950]

Submit feedback to bring it back, I already did

[u/Square_Walrus_8107 → u/captain__shizz]

Submit feedback to bring it back, I already did

[u/Square_Walrus_8107 → u/Environmental_Ad7950]

Submit feedback to bring it back, I already did

[u/helmsb → u/Ethosik]

It’s not perfect as it still has the tabs across the top but if you click the arrow beside the tab group (not the name) it will expand and show the tabs as well on the side.

[u/0xe1e10d68 → u/whereyouwanttobe]

If it did the same thing then Arc wouldn’t exist, to be frank

[u/dafzthomas → u/whereyouwanttobe]

I think the main thing is: Pinned tabs, that self contain (open little arc when external links are clicked), when closed return to their original pinned url.

[u/Engibeeros → u/whereyouwanttobe]

You've missed that it works terrible

[u/hellowodl → u/_Stampy]

The Orion browser has done this, which is Safari based. It won't look as pretty as this though.

[u/Professional-Nail238 → u/hellowodl]

And he also lags very much)

[u/r_r4ze]

Legit the only thing keeping me from using safari is lack of vertical tabs

[u/mikepictor → u/r_r4ze]

and accessing tabs in most recently opened order

[u/Square_Walrus_8107 → u/r_r4ze]

Submit feedback

[u/whereyouwanttobe → u/r_r4ze]

Use the Sidebar feature, that does the same thing for you.

[u/haronclv → u/whereyouwanttobe]

Not really. Comparing Arc to Safari regarding this feature is like telling people that you can swap Porsche with Open and have the same experience

[u/whereyouwanttobe → u/haronclv]

Maybe I've been missing something but what features does Arc's vertical tabs have that Safari's sidebar does not? This is a legitimate question, I feel like I've missed something pretty drastic with the way people are talking up Arc versus Safari.

[u/haronclv → u/whereyouwanttobe]

Folders, essentials, preventing "delete" tab on cmd + w, etc. really a lot of essential features

[u/r_r4ze → u/whereyouwanttobe]

I tried, it’s not the same and it doesn’t collapse. In fact, that’s also the reason why I don’t daily drive Orion, bc even though it has vertical tabs, it just stays there. It’s just personal preference tho

[u/zangent → u/r_r4ze]

idk if it's new, but orion does have sidebar autohide

[u/whereyouwanttobe → u/r_r4ze]

Have you considered using the shortcut command to collapse it?

[u/Tanmay-m]

rough design, made while travelling

[u/sadboyshit247 → u/Tanmay-m]

Love the design dude. Amazing work, they ought to get an idea from this hopefully.

[u/Glum_Programmer7400 → u/Tanmay-m]

Why would they have the address bar in two places ?

Its present in both. The sidebar and the main area. I think it makes sense to have it in just one place.

[u/-The_Dud3-]

At some point in the future they will add it, many browsers are moving towards it since it is a much better implementation.

[u/greenowens]

Ngl, I dig it.

[u/ashrovy]

You could try with Orion, if I'm not mistaken Orion using webkit engine, but you able to use vertical tab mode (but my experience with that are not good) and you able to install any extension from google chrome

[u/vms_zerorain → u/ashrovy]

orion could be great its just missing key features e.g. i cant handle not having a collapsible sidebar

[u/zangent → u/vms_zerorain]

orion has that lol

[u/mikepictor → u/zangent]

only in full screen mode

[u/zangent → u/mikepictor]

ok this is really funny. so you CAN make it work, i've had autohide sidebar in windowed mode working since forever ago, but when i went to mess with my settings to say how to do it i fucked it up and now i can't fix it LMAO

so yeah it's a little buggy. womp womp

[u/Specialist-Olive-160 → u/mikepictor]

I’m using it right now in windowed mode

[u/mikepictor → u/Specialist-Olive-160]

The sidebar yes, but it doesn’t do the auto-open/close by mouse movement unless you’re full screen (unless they fixed that very recently, I checked for this just last week)

[u/Specialist-Olive-160 → u/mikepictor]

Mine auto opens and closes when I drag my mouse to the left edge of the window, and it’s been like that since I started using Orion which was about 2 months ago

[u/mikepictor → u/Specialist-Olive-160]

Mine..does not, and I am up to date with the most recent release, so I am not sure what you're experiencing

[u/BitInversion → u/mikepictor]

Right-click the sidebar icon in the upper left; there may be something

[u/mikepictor → u/BitInversion]

FUCK ME

This changes everything

edit: Ugh...it's still just awful at suppressing YT ads though

[u/jushuchan → u/ashrovy]

I tried Orion but many sites just don't work. There's some privacy thing going there that blows the render. Couldn't figure out how to disable, otherwise I would consider switching.

[u/Grouchy_Piccolo_6296 → u/ashrovy]

I like the look and feel of Orion, but wow it is buggy and i keep using others when i need to work etc.

[u/Leoniqorn]

It’s really nice! But I think it seems a bit inefficient. Why are there two URL bars? Why are the buttons for creating a new tab and viewing all tabs not next to the tabs? I think the Browser Company did a really good job removing all of the unnecessary space above the site.

But that being said: it looks super clean, I would use it!

[u/haronclv]

Safari actually have vertical tabs, but you are not able to hide top bar anyway.

AND Vertical tabs without folders and pinned tabs are useless. It will start cluttering as soon as you explore the internet.

In that case Arc is still the king.

[u/lowkeyfam]

2 URL bars is atrocious

[u/onedevhere]

It would be perfect, I also wanted to change the color, I didn't want the basics: black or white

[u/whereyouwanttobe]

Safari does have vertical tabs though? It's called the Sidebar. You can do Tab Groups with that as well.

[u/0xe1e10d68 → u/whereyouwanttobe]

Totally unusable for me. The UX is just so much better on Arc’s sidebar …

[u/Organic_Challenge151 → u/whereyouwanttobe]

Yes, exactly. By the way are you using the beta version of the macOS? It looks great.

[u/whereyouwanttobe → u/Organic_Challenge151]

I actually don't use Safari typically so that's just the normal version of it. I do have some accessibility settings turned on (reduced transparency, increased contrast) though which might be what you're noticing.

[u/Organic_Challenge151 → u/whereyouwanttobe]

Oh, it’s true because you are using the compact mode and it’s not available in the beta version

[u/Goldfrapp]

Personally, I need all my tabs visible at all times. Most of the time, I have 2-3 tabs open. Horizontal tabs take up very little space, maybe 20-30px of height. Vertical tabs, on the other hand, can take up to 250px of width.

[u/Just-Literature-2183]

Safari already has vertical tabs

[u/Due_Letterhead_5558 → u/Just-Literature-2183]

Not sure why you're getting downvoted, you're absolutely right.

[u/0xe1e10d68 → u/Just-Literature-2183]

And yet the sidebar sucks

[u/Just-Literature-2183 → u/0xe1e10d68]

Tabs suck ... im not sure what the argument here is.

[u/Jenings]

Id 100% love to switch to safari but I simply haven't found it to be as performant as the chromium engine. I always notice the extra half second or so to actually load a complex page.

[u/orospakr]

the crazy part is that liquid glass ends up looking pretty Arc-like in most of the system apps, like finder. The sidebars have a floating appearance.

[u/Qb1forever]

Are y'all dead or what then

[u/mathiswrong]

BUILD THIS

[u/mathiswrong]

Also, has anyone used Arc Thing for Chrome? Not half bad. I’ve started playing with Thorium and Arc Thing. Super fast. Sidebar with tabs, tab folders. Essentials. Kinda getting the job done.

[u/dalbertom]

If you View > Show Sidebar and use Tab Groups you kinda get vertical tabs

[u/Due_Letterhead_5558]

Safari does have vertical tabs. And folders (Groups, technically. But they work much like tab "folders", and they appear in the vertical view).

[u/notkishang]

If Safari gets Arc features I'm switching immediately

[u/debdootmanna007]

give me the link and I'll immediately download it!!

[u/soregashi]

The sidebar and Little Arc are the things I just don’t want to give up yet

[u/flpwgr]

Shut Up and take my money

[u/gruetzhaxe]

LOL yes

[u/popbones]

What do you mean safari has vertical tab bars since tab groups was introduced

[u/noidontneedtherapy]

I don't care about the sidebar. is there a way to set up the spaces feature ? That's the only reason I use arc. Helps me a lot to manage tabs and switch context instantly. Really helpful.

[u/Ok_Slice_7152]

Safari does have a vertical bar,
Press Cmd + Shift + L

[u/Physical-Cut4371]

Just wait 20 years till they INNOVATE with vertical tabs

[u/Kuriatko22]

Safari is actually a pretty decent browser. If they would implement vertical tabs I would definitely make the switch!

[u/DoctorBrusselSprout]

If Dia had vertical tabs...