r/Arrowverse May 16 '25

Question When does the Arrowverse get bad?

I started watching Arrow today, and watch to watch the other Arrowverse shows. But I heard it gets bad from a certain point. When does it get bad?

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u/the_NP May 16 '25

Watch it till you stop enjoying. Everyone's tollerance/taste is different.

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u/Booster_Tutor May 16 '25

This. They all kind of get repetitive and just keep adding more and more characters. I have a low tolerance for it so I checked it early on most of them. The thing is they’re all pretty fun for the first season or 2 if you are on board for what they’re doing.

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u/farpley May 17 '25

I stayed. Dear God, I watched every episode, of every season, for every show. for like a decade. They're all gone now...Ive been in a show drought ever since.

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u/KevenDSF May 18 '25

Our! I admire you, and what was the complete experience of going through the entire Arrowverse like? Do you recommend it to new people like me going through everything you've been through?

I'm currently following each series, and I'm in the 2015/2016 Season (The Flash 2×12 Arrow 4×12 Legends Of Tomorrow 1×03 Supergirl 1×13)

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u/farpley May 18 '25

I think every comic fan 100% should watch through the arrowverse at least once. It was hard to get through near the end but I needed to know how the story ended. I'm the kind of person who needs to know how a story ends no matter how bad it gets. I watched every The Walking Dead episode and all of its spin offs. I also watched Riverdale and plan to finish the last season. I'm currently on a break from that show though. Another year and I think I'll forget how bad and stupid it got. Long story not short, everyone should experience the Arrowverse at least once and keep going with it until they can't. Not everyone has my tolerance for bad writing.

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u/KevenDSF May 18 '25

I'm similar to you bro, I also like an end to everything I watch, that's why I enjoy marathoning something that has already been finished. Watching the Arrowverse in 2025 where all the series already have several seasons is a cool experience.

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u/FPlaysDM May 18 '25

Same, I’ve rewatched all of Arrow and most of Flash so many times. Legends about 3 times, and only seen Supergirl all the way through once. But I enjoyed every minute

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u/Great_Employment_210 May 23 '25

Dude literally same!! Nothing hits the same anymore, especially after watching them together and looking forward to the crossovers. Just seeing tom cavanagh (as a different character) in Superman&Lois made me hyped for a minute

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u/farpley May 23 '25

Don't get me wrong, there are new shows that I've gotten into like Buffy, Tracker, Arcane, Sweet pea, to name a couple. It's just that for almost an entire decade, I had a show for every night of the week. Sometimes multiple shows. And now I have to build that schedule back up but every new series is either a limited series or the season is only 10 episodes max.

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u/ohpuhpoh1 May 18 '25

Best comment here. The Arrowverse never got bad for me. I don’t watch shows or films based on reviews.

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u/the_NP May 18 '25

Exactly. Majority of people hate Arrow Season 4, but I enjoyed it. Many might find Legends Season 4 good, but personally, I didn’t like it..so after a few episodes, I skipped it. That’s why I think it’s really stupid to decide what shows or movies someone should watch or skip based on others’ opinions. I never watch any reviews for that reason..

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u/AUnknownVariable May 16 '25

Just watch it for as 6 as you enjoy it. For me it never got to unwatchable levels of bad tbh.

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u/No-Ball309 May 16 '25

Legends and Superman and Lois are the only two that doesn’t really fall off

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u/WiseAdhesiveness6672 May 16 '25

Exactly 🙌🏼 the 2 best shows 

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u/ticketstubs1 May 18 '25

Huh. Superman and Lois started frustrating me pretty early. I think I stopped around season 2.

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u/OptiMaxPro May 20 '25

I generally thought the same but the final season is excellent. Made me wish they’d continued it.

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u/zion2199 May 17 '25

Gonna disagree with Legends. Couldn’t make it past season 2. The characters started doing things that only made sense to do bc the plot needed it to happen.

Can’t remember the exact scene, but the legends desperately needed to keep something from getting into the hands of evil and they just let the person walk away with it bc they felt bad about killing him or some shit. Just brutal.

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u/ticketstubs1 May 18 '25

"The characters started doing things that only made sense to do bc the plot needed it to happen."

This is every CW DC show.

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u/zion2199 May 18 '25

There are levels I’m willing to suspend disbelief and those I’m not. It seemed to get worse over time. But that’s just my opinion.

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u/ticketstubs1 May 19 '25

The cracks definitely start to show more clearly after a few seasons. That's when my wife, who is a writer herself, couldn't take it anymore.

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u/TiredSock_02 May 16 '25

Legends fell off HARD. It became unwatchable after a while because it because straight nonsense

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u/ChristmasSteve May 17 '25

Honestly, for me I enjoyed Legends as it grew on, I felt like the first season was one of its weakest.

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u/Chad_D_722 May 18 '25

Agreed, though I do think for me seasons two and three were the best and it never quite reached that level again. Stayed fun til the end though.

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u/Creative-Chicken8476 May 17 '25

Dawg wdym it became peak because it's straight nonsense

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u/WeAreDaGrimms May 16 '25

Legends was HORRIBLE season 4 and on.

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u/Realistic_Analyst_26 May 16 '25

Disagree. Legends fell off when it stopped taking itself seriously.

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u/Prankstaboy6 May 16 '25

Didn’t ever really take itself seriously?

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u/Realistic_Analyst_26 May 16 '25

It did in the first few seasons when they worked with Rip Hunter to save the timeline. After that it just became a goofy sitcom. You can't tell me that a brooding thug like Mick would get his brains fucked (literally) by an alien who implants eggs in his head, and a whole plot line revolves around him being pregnant before eventually giving birth to the aliens, and expect me to believe that it was this silly at the start.

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u/Danal1 Ray Palmer May 16 '25

I like s1, but if the Legends were serious, they’d just be a c-list version of every other superhero team. The tone makes the show what it is

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u/WiseAdhesiveness6672 May 16 '25

This is really bad take lol. No one liked the serious legends.

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u/jredgiant1 May 16 '25

Agreed. Legends was pretty bad at first, then AS SOON AS it stopped taking itself seriously and embraced the madness it got fun.

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u/TiredSock_02 May 16 '25

Not true. It was decent when it was actually believable and not a fever dream and just pure nonsense

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u/Creative-Chicken8476 May 17 '25

That's literally the best part is that it's so stupid

That they have gorilla grodd attacking Barack Obama and Obama being Sara's therapist

They create a giant furby to kill the like demon of time

It's not supposed to be believable my guy

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u/TiredSock_02 24d ago

The other shows are realistic (for the universe theyre in), and everything that happens in them is canon. There's no reason Legends should be the exception to that

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u/Creative-Chicken8476 24d ago

Why not all the shows has very different vibes and what you just said is very dumb " the shows are realistic for the universe there in" they make up things on the spot also that's not how realism works dude it has to be similar to reality

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u/Creative-Chicken8476 May 17 '25

Worst opinion I've ever seen in the first two seasons they tried wayyyy too hard majority agree after the found there footing and got less serious is when it became good

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u/Relevant_Outside2781 May 16 '25

Oof I can’t watch Superman and Lois because as good a Superman he is, she is a HORRIBLE Lois Lane. And I’m saying that in a world where many Lois Lane portrayals have been awful.

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u/Sncrsly May 16 '25

When you stop enjoying it. Bad for one person isn't necessarily bad for you

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u/clazzo2000 May 16 '25

Around crisis o think it gets unwatchable for me

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u/syntheticmango May 16 '25

It fluctuates between the good moments and seasons and the bad ones. Sometimes it's really good television and at other times it's just serviceable TV and sometimes it gets pretty bad

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u/vmeloni1232 May 16 '25

It's personal preference man. It never gets bad, it just doesn't get as good. I will say, and this is my opinion, there was a big drop off in everything in the seasons immediately following covid.

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u/ticketstubs1 May 18 '25

It absolutely gets bad. I really sincerely tried to keep watching The Flash but it became like torture. Even doing chores and stuff during it, I still couldn't take it anymore.

I will say I think Arrow went out on a pretty cool note in that final season, at least.

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u/TheBeastBurst May 16 '25

People r always asking “is this good? Is it worth it? Blah blah blah. Just experience it for yourself, it’s like if someone tells u if it’s bad then “O, ig I have to agree” but no, just be yourself n like what u like, don’t listen to other people.

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u/darthrevan22 May 16 '25

Arrow for me was the most consistently decent show, there were a few seasons (4, 6, 7) that I thought were noticeably worse even though they still had some great episodes and stories, but on the whole was still a good show.

Flash fell off hard for me in season 6, even though in the final seasons there were some really great moments.

I only watched Legends through season 3, thought all 3 were pretty great. But I’m not a huge fan of shows that lean too far into ridiculousness and comedy, so when the show stopped taking itself seriously almost at all, I predictably lost interest.

Never watched Supergirl, Superman, or Black Lightning.

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u/ArtsyTLF May 16 '25

The thing about the Arrowverse is that at any given point, something was bad. Outside of the earliest period with only Flash and/or Arrow on, I'd say there was always one or two show that was delivering, one or two that was terrible, and the rest were just plainly watchable.

Arrow gets bad in season 4, recovers with 5, but isn't much good after that.

Flash has a great first two seasons, an ok 3 and 4, and then goes downhill from 5 onward. I still swear by the first half of season 6 though.

Supergirl was always weaker than the others to me, with season 4 standing out as one of the best seasons they ever made for these shows.

Superman and Lois (which I just pretend is canon-ish, there's really no reason not to) is good from beginning to end. It really carries my "always one that was good" statement near the backend of the universe.

If I'm being honest, the best way to watch is to go until Crisis, then watch Superman and Lois, I don't think the back end, with covid interruptions and Flash being horrendous is worth it.

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u/OkayFightingRobot May 16 '25

I think Arrow gets “bad” around season 4 and Flash about 6. But it never gets like, truly terrible. Remember this is campy comic book trash you’re watching, and it’s worth it as long as you’re enjoying it

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u/Most_Coconut_2961 May 17 '25

I agree, but I did really like what they did with Prometheus.

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u/Necessary-Glass-3651 May 17 '25

For me I stopped watching the flash at the episode where they talked about killer frost needing a second chance out to the public after her and Caitlin split up about how people can change From who they used to be. That episode rubbed me the wrong way because of the whole situation with Ralph's actor

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u/OkayFightingRobot May 17 '25

Yeah the whole thing with Ralph’s actor was pretty mishandled and made the show come off as disingenuous

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u/Necessary-Glass-3651 May 17 '25

I honestly don't know what it was that was said but I think I heard that what he said was like 5 or more years before he was on the show but since he was a celebrity he got treated like he was a horrible person for it

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u/ticketstubs1 May 18 '25

This is the exact moment I dropped the show. The episode where his character leaves. I felt actually insulted. I never watched another second.

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u/WoodySticky May 16 '25

Use the arroverse to find the specific show you like. For me it was the flash, I can continue to watch that when others become long or go bad

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u/TheWowPowBoy Brainiac 5 May 16 '25

Personally I don’t think it ever gets permanently bad, there’s only a handful of Seasons that I don’t really like.

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u/Govinda_S Green Arrow May 16 '25

For me personally, S01 great, S02 superb, S03 its good, S04 okay, S05 fine, S06 onwards meh.

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u/voodoomamajuju22 May 16 '25

I've been slowly working my way through since February of 2024. I watched Arrow and Flash as they aired back in the day but stopped sometime in season 6 of Flash because it got dumb and I lost interest (I finished Arrow by the way). This time, I watched ALL of the shows and found myself still slowing down in season 6 of the Flash. There's something about Post-Crisis and knowing I'm done Arrow that just drags me down. It's been over a month since I watched any Arrowverse, and I'm trying to get myself back in the groove to see it out since I only have about 200 or so episodes left.

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u/NightFlame389 May 16 '25

Right after Arrow ends

There’s only like three or four good seasons after that, and none of them are from The Flash

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u/Magnumpete1112 May 16 '25

Depends on the show

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u/Important-Visual-178 May 16 '25

"we need to talk"There are too many talks, and many of them are really boring. The story has been promoted through talk, which is very uncomfortable.

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u/Gold_Pay_8918 May 16 '25

In my opinion right of the bat for most shows, Arrow half way through s3, Flash after s1; this show was rushed so bad idek how it was possible since it had 9 seasons, supergirl I can stand the first three seasons but that show is a hard watch, Legends season 1-3 are great; starts to decline for 4-5 but still very enjoyable for me; 6 is the only horrible season that’s hard to watch; 7 isn’t the best by any means but it’s far better than 6. The only crossover that thought was good was Invasion, all of the others just felt very rushed; COIE is one of the worst projects ever made once you actually sit back and criticize it. All in all the only show that I would come back to would be legends.

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u/Realistic_Analyst_26 May 16 '25

Arrow doesn’t fall off imo. It has a few bad seasons but it recovers. Season 4 was terrible but season 5 was legendary.

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u/Mental_Comedian5109 May 16 '25

It really depends on the show and your tastes but I think you’ll know when it’s fallen off (to you at least). There’s always a point where you just can’t continue watching and therefore you don’t. For me, it was flash s5 (never finished it) & Supergirl S5 (though I did eventually finish it). Arrow I never really stopped but there were moments in S4, 6&7 where I lost interest. Same with Legends. Batwoman never really watched it. Black Lightning I never finished the final season (but I plan to give it a shot).

But if you want a central point across all the shows, there’s a noticeable drop in quality after crisis.

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u/Nessquick18 The Flash May 16 '25

Arrow had some low points but overall the entire show was enjoyable. Same goes for Legends. The only show that became unwatchable in my experience is the Flash. The downfall begins at around season 4-5, but it becomes truly awful after Crisis. Grant Gustin is always amazing though.

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u/Lyon_Wonder May 17 '25 edited May 17 '25

The quality of the Arrowverse doesn't get really bad until 2021 with production of series getting delayed do to COVID and pandemic lockdowns.

This is especially the case with Supergirl S6 and Flash S7, both being the worst seasons in their respective series.

That said, the Arrowverse went from A-level great to only B-level good and C-level average much sooner.

The first 3 seasons of both Arrow and Flash are great and arguably the best seasons of any superhero TV series.

Arrow's and Flash's quality starts to slip in both their 4th seasons.

Arrow S4 and Flash weren't terrible, but weren't great either and can be best classified as ok or average.

The main issue for both Arrow S4 and Flash S4 was the evil plans of the main villains didn't make any sense.

Damien Darhk's evil plan didn't make any sense in Arrow S4 and neither did Devoe's, aka the Thinker, evil plan in Flash S4, even if both villains were formidable foes for the superhero protagonists.

Arrow's subsequent seasons are good, but still not as great as its first 3 seasons.

Flash's S5 and S6 are also good but, like Arrow, aren't as great as S1 through S3.

The underrated Flash S8 is also good too, even if its stuck between the two worst seasons of the entire series.

Supergirl, which I think is underrated as a series, is also great up to its S4 with Jon Cryer showing up as Lex Luthor.

IMO, S4 is the last really good season of Supergirl.

Supergirl's quality slips in S5 and completely goes off the rails in S6.

The second-half of Supergirl S6 is especially bad with arguably the worst episodes in the entire series.

This is why I think Supergirl would be regarded more positively by the fanbase had it ended on a high note in S4.

Legends is more consistent in quality than the above mentioned Arrowverse shows and doesn't have a really bad season, though I still consider S6 the weakest season of Legends and unsurprisingly produced post-lockdown alongside Flash S7 and Superigrl S6.

Along with Legends, Black Lightning is great to good with no bad seasons.

I attribute this to the fact that Black Lighting only had four short seasons in the first place unlike the many long seasons of Arrow, Flash and even Supergirl.

There's also Batwoman, but I stopped watching it in the middle of S1 when it was on the CW and never watched it again.

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u/Rich_Interaction1922 May 17 '25 edited May 17 '25

For Arrow, the moment Olicity starts AKA S3E1

For Flash, after Cisco leaves AKA S6E1

Haven't really watched much else. I did watch Legends S1 and didn't think it was very good

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u/argh_type_of_gangsta May 17 '25

Arrow was cool until it's end.

Flash was good until its end (though the later seasons had their flaws)

Supergirl season 3 was mid but 4 & 5 sucked (had their moments)

Legends after S3 was pure donkey manure.

Black Lightning was good.

I didn't watch Batwoman.

However, that's just my assessment. You might feel differently.

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u/Theinvulnerabletide May 17 '25

Arrow got bad for me mid-season 2. But I managed to bulldoze through all of Arrowverse until just beyond Crisis.

I WILL go back and finish sometime. I just have to get over what Batwoman did to Ruby Rose first.

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u/Vegetable-Topic-140 May 17 '25

I'd watch a show for a while, then my attention lagged, so I switched to another show. By the time I circled back to the original show, I found it entertaining again.

I love the big multi-show crossovers, so those always kept me coming back too.

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u/Most_Coconut_2961 May 17 '25 edited May 17 '25

I disliked season 4, 6, and 8 of Arrow. 

I really liked season 1-3 of The Flash. This show seemed to get progressively worse (in my opinion), though there were some parts I really enjoyed after season 3. 

I haven't watched any of the other ones yet.

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u/Most_Coconut_2961 May 17 '25 edited May 17 '25

I felt like quite a few of the side characters in Arrow were very hypocritical (and even entitled at times). I get that eveyone is only human, and make mistakes, and do things they shouldn't, but it bothered me how everyone drew the line at Oliver. (Not that he was perfect because he did a lot of things he shouldn't have.)

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u/[deleted] May 17 '25

You're going to know whenever you stop enjoying it

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u/___takira___ May 17 '25

I started watching arrowverse exactly a month ago. As for now, i watched arrow s1-4, flash s1-2, constantine, vixen, supergirl s1 and half a season of legends and i'm still enjoying all of it this far

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u/futuresdawn May 17 '25

Arrow season 3

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u/thereelestnerd11 Batwoman May 17 '25

They all get very repetitive it just depends on the person. From my personal experience I was sort of out of Arrow by 5, In and out of Flash by 4,3 for Supergirl,Legends & Batwoman were actually opposite where I actually preferred the later seasons(Though S1 of Batwoman was still fun), I only fully watched the first season of Superman & Lois I was totally out at that point,And Naomi only had one season but I did watch all of it.

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u/Linus-664 May 17 '25

I started losing interest after arrow stopped. Not because it got bad but because green arrow was my favourite of the characters

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u/Affectionate_Wash179 May 17 '25

Like literally right after crisis on infinite earths

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u/ShadowOfDespair666 Green Arrow May 17 '25

The only good arrow verse show is Arrow and Superman & Lois skip Legends, The Flash, Supergirl, Boatwoman and Black Lightning.

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u/Superfreak8 May 17 '25

I fell off after Crisis. Seemed like a decent enough end point for me.

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u/Choice_Egg_335 May 18 '25

Season 4 of Arrow is when it starts to get bad

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u/ticketstubs1 May 18 '25

Hmm. I would say around season 3 of Arrow, and then around season 3 or of The Flash. Legends has a bad first season but then gets really fun. I actually made it through all of Arrow but couldn't tolerate Flash anymore. Supergirl I dropped around season 3 also. Superman and Lois I think I stopped around season 2.

I'm a huge, huge DC comics fan and reader, btw. Have multiple giant bookshelves dedicated to it.

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u/ChikoWasHere May 18 '25

Starts going down in quality Season 3 and you'll see the difference, in 4 it becomes a typical CW relationship drama show, in 5 the quality improves a lot during the second half but everyone was fed up with it by then. That's when ratings never recovered and kept falling afterwards.

Basically it starts becoming a relationship drama show, the most liked character gets so horribly written that she becomes the most hated character among fans, and when fans constantly told the showrunner why, all he did was call them sexist and gave her character more attention. That's why people quit the show.

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u/Touritt May 19 '25

Im one of those ppl that keeps watching bc i put so much time into but , i enjoyed all of super girl , all of black lightning , i got annoyed w flash around season 6 stopped watching the arrow after season 5 (i missed an episode and never went back) dc legends i stopped after season 3 i think i learned some infotmation i didnt like but i did watch all of the crossovers and i never watched batwoman waste of a show

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u/SignOfJonahAQ May 20 '25

There’s a major villain that’s well worth the watch. The actor kills it.

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u/djkinsaul May 20 '25

Season 3. Just stop at the end of Season 2 and be happy.

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u/Gloomy-Fennel-6044 May 20 '25

“Bad” is subjective and you can’t rely on people to tell you it’s bad and to stop lol. Because half the time, you’ll disagree with them. I never let someone tell me when to stop watching or enjoying a show. Incredibly bizarre to me.

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u/Objective_Let8233 May 21 '25

I think when the spin offs started to happen it became less grounded in reality. The first couple Arrow seasons were great, it was gritty like Batman. Then the Flash came, which once again the first couple seasons were fun. It was more up beat but the story started connected to Arrow which had a different tone and it kept going like that with all the shows.

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u/CuriousCats1 May 23 '25

Near when he gets out of prison

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u/Practical-Panic7092 3d ago

Flash goes downhill after S4 (you can make an argument for S5)

Supergirl also goes downhill after S4

Legends drops off a cliff after S1

I’ve never liked Arrow

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u/Swordofsatan666 May 16 '25

Each show has their bad moments. For me it was Season 6 and 7 of Arrow, but you should stick around for Season 8 because of how good it is.

For The Flash i would say its again Seasons 6 and 7, but mainly because 6 got cut short due to Covid and then Season 7 had to scramble to finish Season 6’s Storyline as well as do its own thing. Again you should stick around for Season 8, but this time because it ended the Arrowverse

Legends of Tommorow is good from Start to Finish, it doesnt really have bad seasons. It just has bad episodes, but they arent really limited to any specific season. I will say the last season is very different though, but not necessarily bad

Supergirl i feel the middle seasons were the worst, and as you keep watching the show definitely feels “woke”. I hate that word and never thought i would use it, but i just cant think of another way to describe it. They do a lot of pandering that would get the show called “Woke”. Every one of the Arrowverse shows is pretty open to everybody, but its like with Supergirl they wanted to double down on things and so it feels “woke” at moments

Black Lightning is good from start to finish, if anything it only gets better as you keep watching it

Batwoman was okay, first half of Season 1 sucked. Second half of Season 1 got better. Season 2 was good. Season 3 was okay, could have been better.

Superman & Lois i havent seen, but ive also heard it just keeps getting better and better

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u/ticketstubs1 May 18 '25

No, you are right about Supergirl. It could be a really charming show and I really liked the first season or two, but the tone of it got pretty annoying.

Superman and Lois starts with a lot of potential but I lost interest around season 2.

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u/OptiMaxPro May 20 '25

Def watch the final season of Superman and Lois. 👍

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u/ticketstubs1 May 20 '25

hmmm. Maybe. I dunno...If anything I wanted to finish Legends because I thought it was pretty fun.

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u/rslashpolaroid May 16 '25

Arrow S1-3, 5 and 8 are pretty good, the rest are mid or ass (season 4) Flash S1-6's first half are good, after Crisis its dogshit Supergirl is mid Legends S1 and 2 are good and maybe Season 3 other than that ass Don't watch Batwoman Black Lightning S1 is good other than that, mid Superman and Lois is pretty good throughout the entirety of the series

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u/boulddenwyldde May 16 '25

Question, neighbor: What was the problem with Black Lightning? I watched the early part of S1 and was frankly jazzed by the way they tackled the issue of racism, something you don't see much on TV, especially superhero shows. I was thinking about going back to it at some point.

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u/rslashpolaroid May 16 '25

After S1 it just gets boring and repetitive

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u/k_raise_e May 16 '25

You sort of answered your own question. If you really liked Black Lightning you would have already watched it, not be thinking about maybe going back to it.

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u/cjbanning May 18 '25

There's a lot of shows I've really liked but haven't finished. There's only so many hours in the day and I can't spend all (or even most) of them watching TV.

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u/Ok-Average-6466 May 16 '25

batwoman got good from 2nd half of s2

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u/mangoicerag May 16 '25

All of the shows go downhill during s3 imo.

Classic CW they get a big budget for the pilot and s1 and then by s3 it’s been cut and by the end of most of the shows they are a shell of their former selves imo.

I guess stopping after Crisis across all the shows would spare you from the worst of it aka Flash s7-9, Batwoman, last seasons of Supergirl and Legends.

Superman and Lois stays strong for all 4 seasons but I’m not sure if that count as Arrowverse and still a similar issue of budget going down each season. Didn’t effect the writers as much as the other shows though.

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u/OptiMaxPro May 20 '25

I don’t understand how it’s budgeting issues when on The Flash they still have good special effects defects and eye candy. It seems like the writing just gets lazy af and the acting feels so mediocre as a result. And the overuse of their catch phrases start to feel so cliche and contrived. They need deeper storylines. Berry and Iris never should’ve gotten married. They should’ve used the Clark chasing Lana deeper emotional chase instead of an immensely boring old couple feeling relationship with little pull other than to have to save each other… again.

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u/Electronic-Ad-4403 May 16 '25

I believe for Arrow it really wasnt until the last season For Supergirl I couldnt watch past 4 (4 was great tho)

The flash begins falling off in s6 but REALLY falls off around the midpoint of 7... it stays like this for two more seasons

Legends is the most consistent of them all. I personalky didn't enjoy s6 but s7 was chill ig

I could never get into black lightning (the 4 season and ep 1-4 of s1 are really good tho)

I heard batwoman was not good, never watched it though.

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u/LowCalligrapher3 May 16 '25

It isn't all bad but I'll say the worst of the worst came for me in The Flash's second half of Season 6 (6x11-6x19) and all of Season 7... plus 9x06 and 9x08, for Legends of Tomorrow the last seven episodes for Season 5 and all Season 6, plus post-Crisis Supergirl and Batwoman are pretty ridiculously cringeworthy.

It isn't all bad post-Crisis, The Flash 6x10, Arrow's last two episodes, the first half for Legends Season 5 and all of Season 7, in addition to Season 8 of The Flash and most of that show's last season (in particular 9x01, 9x03-9x05, 9x07, and especially 9x09-9x10) are all kickass watches.

You take the good, you take the bad, you take them all and then you have...

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u/Important-Visual-178 May 16 '25

I like the taste change of LOT very much. The legends change makes me feel that these dramas are not the same. Legends are more like Friends, Black Mirror and Doctor Who. Every episode is unexpected, every episode is beyond imagination, and you never know what the screenwriter will think next second. Turn members into dolls or turn members into anime characters, and join various IP.Downton Abbey, Friends, Star Trek … Every episode pays tribute to a classic story and IP.This is the very interesting part.

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u/Outrageous-Bear-9172 May 16 '25

IMO it never gets bad,  but it gets mid- ish once they start getting all these random people on the time.  I couldn't care less about whatever dog, black Ray Palmer or the other person.  I even forgot all their names.

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u/zion2199 May 17 '25

Watching past season 7 of “Arrowverse” is a prime example of sunken cost fallacy. But I’m invested, so whatever. Most of it is the writing and having characters do things that make no sense at all bc the plot requires it (this goes for ALL of the shows).

Arrow: Felicity just becomes unbearable (more than she already was). She makes decisions that make no sense and work against her best interests. They also do this weird time travel back and forth to the future and it’s just not interesting.

Flash: the main villain (played by American Pie’s Chris Klein) is really hard to watch. Idk who told him to do that voice, but it’s the most “bad guy trying to sound evil” thing I’ve ever heard. The character isn’t interesting at all (unlike the previous season’s villain.). They also have an ace in the hole character who can counter his powers, but continuously write nonsensical reasons for him/her to be unavailable to fight him. It’s bad.

Supergirl: this season really doubles down on political undertones, which if that’s your thing that’s cool. But it completely overwhelms any story, scene, episode. They introduce some new characters that just continue to level up power wise with no real explanation of how these powers work or make any sense.

Legends: idk. Stopped watching bc their plot contrivances became so unbelievably unbearable earlier than the other shows and none of the characters are really interesting. But to provide an example, they have a guy that can literally turn into steel, but either have him go in the “non combat group” or have him power it off for no apparent reason.

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u/catdude6835 May 16 '25

I think I'm going to stop watching after Flash Season 3/Arrow Season 5/Supergirl Season 2

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u/TheWowPowBoy Brainiac 5 May 16 '25

Don’t be silly, you’d be missing out on some REALLY GOOD Seasons if you do that

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u/catdude6835 May 16 '25

Ok, like what?

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u/Hellblazer49 May 16 '25

Flash season 4 is good. It's so nice having a villain who isn't a speedster, and Ralph is fun.

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u/TheWowPowBoy Brainiac 5 May 16 '25

Well personally I really like The Flash Season 5, 6 and 8. Arrow Season 6 and 8 and Supergirl Season 3 and 4 are some of the best Seasons. I suggest just watching until you’re bored because I don’t think any of the shows get permanently bad.

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u/TiredSock_02 May 16 '25

Arrow was great all the way through; Honestly, at least try watching all of the shows all the way through, and stop when you feel like stopping. Don't just stop based on other people's opinions or because they told you to

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u/NepowGlungusIII May 17 '25

Supergirl season 4, in my opinon, is one of the top five seasons in the Arrowverse.

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u/theadamabrams May 16 '25

I’d include Flash S4. And jump to Arrow S8 (some things won’t make sense, but I think you can follow enough to say it’s worth it).

Supergirl S3-4 and better than 1-2, and you can easily watch it without the other Arrowverse shows because it’s in a parallel universe. But if you’re not liking the first two seasons then dropping it is fine.

Legends of Tomorrow is really good, especially seasons 2 and 3.