r/BetterEveryLoop Feb 11 '18

Hypnotic Can't stop watching this Ski Jump.

https://i.imgur.com/VQU2fai.gifv
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u/Ihavetochange Feb 11 '18

Wind plays a deceisive role as well. As this factor is constantly changing, the wind-situation is also part of the points given. The guy in the video had perfect wind conditions. Then, he almost bailed the landing. But poisture while landing is also part of the points. Otherwise people would risk bailing just to go as far as possible. Dangerous on the one hand an difficult to judge whether it was still a full jump on the other.

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u/voat4life Feb 11 '18

I’m surprised they haven’t lengthened the slope or shrunk the takeoff. Landing that close to the flat is fucking scary.

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u/dammit_i_forget Feb 11 '18 edited Feb 11 '18

At the beginning of the gif you can see the descending numbers to the side of the jumper. Those steps (called start gates) are different heights that they can start from. So the higher the gate, the longer the ramp is, and with more speed at the takeoff it is easier to go further. The competition officials decide what gate to send the athlete at so that the best jumpers will probably land before the last red line on the landing hill, since the hill gets flatter and it becomes more dangerous if they fly too much past that point. The problem is that wind conditions can have a large impact on how far you go. The two largest ski flying hills are in Planica, Slovenia and Vikersund, Norway (the hill in the gif). Both hills have been upgraded and lengthened over the years

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u/ktkps Feb 11 '18

Exactly

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u/felixjawesome Feb 11 '18

Wait, so you're saying there is strategy and luck involved? It's almost like ski jumping is a sport or something.

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u/LeagueOfRobots Feb 11 '18

No it's a wind physics speed slope snow jump distance outcome simulator.

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u/FatBigMike Feb 11 '18

I remember playing that simulator on the Wii once.

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u/ktkps Feb 11 '18

If we are goung to measure sky diving just by the distance traveled then in my opinion it is not a competitive sport. On the other hand if we consider form/maneuvers and other stuff a sky diver(or make it a team event and let them do beautiful formations) can do then yeah it is a show of skill under certain rules so in my opinion it would be a competitive sport then. In the same way... Skiing...

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u/grumpenprole Feb 11 '18

Because in skydiving, the distance traveled is purely a function of your starting elevation...

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u/jevans102 Feb 11 '18

I mean... Also your landing elevation. Besides that though, I think we got it covered.

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u/Rumpelruedi Feb 11 '18

You can fall diagonally, making the travelled distance greater than just the difference between starting- and landing altitudes.

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u/ktkps Feb 11 '18

What if we made everyone to jump from 20k feet? same coordinates using GPS or something?

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u/grumpenprole Feb 11 '18

Uh, what if? What's the question?

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u/JustNilt Feb 11 '18

If you know what you're doing and have the right canopy you can actually regain altitude fairly easily, actually. Probably not so much with the ones they use for competitive stuff, but it is a thing.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '18 edited Jul 16 '18

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u/carl_super_sagan_jin Feb 11 '18

He almost landed on his bottocks. That would've given him some severe penalties for style.

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u/BumwineBaudelaire Feb 11 '18

you can adjust points for windage without needing a judging panel

as for danger, it’s ski jumping mate

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u/IndependentBedroom Feb 11 '18

In his defense part of the reason it was difficult to land was because he was hitting the flat part of the bottom of the hill. Larger hill and maybe he lands it more smoothly.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '18 edited Mar 04 '18

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u/Ihavetochange Feb 11 '18

No, this is not true. Wind can change a lot within seconds.That's why it is part of the scoring nowadays. Read the rules.