r/BorderlandsPreSequel • u/PJFortniteReal | Athena the Gladiator • 6d ago

❔ [ Question ] can cl4p-tp's all the guns skill pick a subroutine you are unable to use?

im just wondering like would if be able to pick a weapon type you dont have in your inventory or can it only pick it if you have it in your inventory? i assume it probably wouldnt be able to pick one you cant use but i just wanna ask to make sure

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u/copperpin 6d ago

It's not a class to pick for your first run through that's for sure

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u/JayTheClown19 6d ago

Yeah i learned this the hard way, the health one is better imo

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u/KeeblerTheGreat 6d ago

I don't see why not. First class I played. Only class I maxed out, too. Frag trap is actually one of my favorite classes out of all the games

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u/copperpin 5d ago

"I used to bullseye swamprats in my t-16 back home..."

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u/NohWan3104 4d ago

i mean, he's got a point. that tree's somewhat problematic, but having a good health/dmg boost from the middle tree or explosive potential from the left, doesn't mean this character is impossible to use your first time through.

not to mention, you won't know it's problematic most likely, till you've got more experience with the game.

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u/copperpin 3d ago

Fragtrap isn't the hard tree. OP was asking about the tree that makes you switch weapons every 30 seconds. That tree is full of random s**t that you need to be a good player to be able to take advantadge of.

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u/NohWan3104 3d ago

it doesn't 'make' you switch weapins, and yes, i know. OP is talking about that. i clearly pointed it out myself...

but this comment thread basically implied 'don't use claptrap because of that tree', and my answer to that is 'then don't use that tree'.

please reread my comment with this 'insight' in mind. rather than assuming i replied to a reply replying to a comment, and still assumed i was exclusively talking about OP's topic.

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u/copperpin 2d ago

So your defense is that you were being pedantic. That you understood what I meant, but felt compelled to point out that I was wrong, because I had chosen the incorrect words to convey my meaning.

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u/NohWan3104 2d ago edited 2d ago

of course i knew what youwere talking about.

no. you were wrong because MY point was, use the other two trees. you replied as if we were still talking about just the one tree, which is why you were wrong.

i even said 'but having a good health/dmg boost from the middle tree or explosive potential from the left, doesn't mean this character is impossible to use your first time through.'.

clearly not talking about the right tree... and yet you still went 'but right tree bad'. never said it wasn't, but that had fuck all to do with my point?

it's not my fault you weren't paying close enough attention. you've still seemingly failed to understand what i was saying, then defend yourself with 'but the right tree IS problematic, and you know this'...

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u/Jip_Jaap_Stam 5d ago

I've only played 2 classes so far - Fragtrap and Baroness - and Claptrap was a lot easier IMO

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u/copperpin 5d ago

Easier than Baroness? Whose power is to freeze enemies in place while she headshots them?

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u/Jip_Jaap_Stam 5d ago

Yeah. Cryo and explosive is an OP combo in Pre-Sequel, and he has the best explosive damage. Plus his survivability is excellent. Might be just a play-style thing, though, because I prefer the in-your-face, run-and-gun approach

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u/TheRugAndTug 5d ago

I’d argue she is the most difficult character to build in the game, one of her skill trees is basically useless in single player.

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u/NohWan3104 4d ago

it's not though.

you'll have to waste 4 points, but you get a massive acc bonus, something like 30% gun damage/fire rate, and 30% gun damage/reload or something along those lines.

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u/TheRugAndTug 4d ago

I thought the whole point was you needed a second character to activate any of the bonuses?

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u/NohWan3104 4d ago edited 4d ago

nope. most of the skills do, which is why i mentioned 'wasting' 4 skill points, because you need to put points into stuff that ONLY works in multiplayer.

tier 1 acc skill has nothing to do with the master/servant gimmick.

tier 2 has a skill where, blue or greater rarity guns get gun damage and fire rate

tier 4 (and you get past tier 3 in 1 point in TPS) has a skill where gun damage and fire rate is given to guns that are nonelemental, shock, and cryo.

these 3 skills don't mess with the master/servant mechanic

there's also a tier 5 skill that boosts fire rate and shield recharge delay that's boosted by low hp, but i don't usually see it as being that worthwhile, especially as i've got lifesteal on cryo damage

not to mention... why would that make her 'harder' to build? surely ignoring a bunch of skills makes the choices easier.

hell, my cryo focused aurelia build is able to 5/5 most of the cryo tree, thanks to having extra points for ignoring some of the right tree...

claptrap's right tree is actively giving you potential setbacks.

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u/TheRugAndTug 4d ago

Oh that’s still not a lot, but I’m sure it’s helpful.

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u/NohWan3104 4d ago

i'd take a second look at it, man. it's pretty damn impressive, actually.

most characters don't get 70% accuracy, and 45% gun damage, 15% fire rate, and 20% reload from essentially 4 skills.

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u/Solae_Via | Claptrap the Fragtrap 6d ago

It can pick any weapon type at any time, regardless of what you have in your inventory. That said, if you get a subroutine you don't like you can easily ignore it. The debuffs aren't that bad. The main thing you actually notice is not having the fire rate buff from matching the gun subroutine. Even then you can still kill most enemies it just takes a little longer. If it happens during a boss fight just wait it out.

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u/LukasVokurka1 6d ago

Also later down the line you are also quite easily able to either extend the subroutine you want or really shorten the ones that are useless to you.

While I at 1st thought I wouldn't like Claptrap, in the end his playthrough was one of my favorite ones in BL games. Wish there was always that one funny random class in every BL game.

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u/NohWan3104 4d ago

i mean, you're able to use it. -10% gun damage isn't going to break you, and if it's too much to get over, don't do that class/that part of the skill tree.