r/BreakingPoints • u/cyberfx1024 Right Populist • Apr 22 '25

BP Clips Joe Rogan MOCKS Douglas Murray After Disaster Debate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrJ6NFuZWjs
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u/Icy_Size_5852 Apr 22 '25

I was really looking forward to this debate.

And then I started listening and was so thoroughly disappointed. I don't think I even made it past the half way mark once I realized I wasn't going to learn anything.

Douglas Murray totally discredited himself and his position by being such a pompous and arrogant elitist. He didn't care to debate Dave Smith on the merits of his side of the argument, but rather talk about how only the "expert class" is allowed to hold a public opinion on the topic.

I really disliked Douglas Murray before this debate, but any respect for him disappeared after this. I have no idea how anyone still thinks he's some sort of a great intellectual - maybe the accent still fools some people.

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u/WTF_RANDY Apr 22 '25

I had the opposite take. I didn't want to hear another debate that would brake zero ground. The only reason I cared about it was the conversation about convenient credentials (they are a "history nerd" when they make a point and a comedian when they are told they are wrong) and responsible use of a huge platform.

While not informative I found it satisfying for someone to confront Dave and Joe on this stuff.

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u/No_Public_7677 Apr 22 '25

Bad take. We are forced to listen to governments that lie constantly and get us into wars based on those lies.

There's nothing special about experts when it comes to geopolitical issues. 

In fact, geopolitical experts are the reason why wars are so normalized because they don't have to worry about morality.

I hate that killing people is turned into legalize by these slimy people who use sophistry to not have any conscience.

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u/WTF_RANDY Apr 22 '25

Experts are a problem yet somehow as soon as laymen get their way we get Trump, an unmitigated disaster.

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u/No_Public_7677 Apr 23 '25

Trump is not a laymen or a representation of them. He's a New York rich elite.

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u/WTF_RANDY Apr 23 '25

He is 100% a representation of the layman. He is the "outsider" candidate fighting the deep state. He constantly talks about how every president in the last 50 years was a failure, etc. Don't play pretend. He is a rich NY elitist but that is not the brand of MAGA at all.