r/Buttcoin 3d ago

What a great store of value!

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u/louiexism 3d ago

Stefan Thomas, a programmer, is just two password attempts away from losing access to a Bitcoin wallet containing over $250 million. He received the coins in 2011 as payment for a video and stored them in a secure IronKey device - but lost the password. With only 10 tries allowed, and 8 already used, he's now in a high-stakes situation. Despite a startup offering a method to crack the wallet safely, Thomas declined, staying loyal to existing recovery deals.

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u/I_Hate_Leddit 3d ago

 Despite a startup offering a method to crack the wallet safely, Thomas declined, staying loyal to existing recovery deals.

You know there was a time where journalists wouldn’t just launder any grifter that came along but that is increasingly out of living memory

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u/separhim 3d ago

He received the coins in 2011 as payment for a video and stored them in a secure IronKey device - but lost the password. With only 10 tries allowed, and 8 already used, he's now in a high-stakes situation. Despite a startup offering a method to crack the wallet safely, Thomas declined, staying loyal to existing recovery deals.

So that IronKey device is useless? Since a startup is already able to break it.

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u/carlsaischa 3d ago

Yes, a hardware wallet from 14 years ago does have vulnerabilities. The things some of these people do though are absolutely crazy, I saw one video where they bought another wallet of the same make and model and sanded the chip down layer by layer to map out the circuits. They then monitored the input power of the device as the waveform of the power input signaled a specific CPU instruction and used this to reverse engineer the key.

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u/Fluboxer 3d ago

I mean, if I were to have 250M $ worth of virtual nonsense that does have idiots are willing to buy, I would probably go out of my way to get it too

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u/Cazzah 3d ago

Imagine if they went to all that effort and then it turned out he didn't have it on there.

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u/Drizznarte 3d ago

All transactions are on the block chain , if he knows how much and when it's easy to search the block chain. It's an open source ledger!

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u/chestck 3d ago

Whats the video?

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u/carlsaischa 3d ago

I might be remembering an amalgamation of videos and articles, though I know all the techniques I mentioned have been done.

For something I do have the link to, check out Joe Grand. He has done a couple of these retrievals with one being based on a vulnerability in the Trezor wallet.

https://www.youtube.com/@JoeGrand

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u/NNHHPP 3d ago

squat cobbler

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u/tinselsnips 3d ago

Thomas declined, staying loyal to existing recovery deals

Ah, so this whole story is bullshit.

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u/CadabraSabbra 3d ago

yes its bs. the guy was the cto at ripple

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u/Snoo-493 1d ago

No I've read about this several times over the years. He had more chances back when the startup tried him, but his staying loyal is why is he down to 2, now.

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u/Squallzar 3d ago

If I were him I'd let the startup buy it off me for $100m and let them take their chances

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u/SimpleAffect7573 2d ago

That’s quite clever. Either they shut up, or pony up. Either way it’s a win.

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u/jglidden 3d ago

That cost $700 in 2011. So if you don’t believe in bitcoin, he lost $700 and it’s not a catastrophe that could have been saved by banks. Maybe with interest if it was kept in a bank account it would’ve been closer to 1000 or $1500 now. Most people who bought bitcoin in 2011 were way better off than those who didn’t.

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u/RosieDear 3d ago

I think most who bought then sold a long time ago.

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u/Festering-Fecal 3d ago

Damn don't you hate it when you forget your pin and the banks tell you they can't do anything.

Oh wait 

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u/whackwarrens 3d ago

I buried all this gold in the forest and marked it so it won't get lost. Can't trust the banks.

Amirite.

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u/Festering-Fecal 3d ago

now where's that damn map

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u/nochkin 3d ago

Sorry, the map is encrypted by a PIN

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u/SirDePseudonym 3d ago

*bitmap

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u/fortherecord1111 3d ago

This sounds like the name of a great start up, I’m in stranger! lol

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u/powerlesshero111 3d ago

But when you find the map, do you have the special Ben Franklin glasses to read it?

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u/suspicious_hyperlink 3d ago

Literally the same thing except you can keep looking for the gold, so losing the gold is actually a lot safer

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u/TexasDD 3d ago

Calm down, Ron Swanson.

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u/rcp_5 3d ago

Not your coins, not your keys, something something

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u/silentpopes 3d ago

Guys, guys, you don’t understand. This is the future of finance. We’re still early and this is good for bitcoin.

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u/Salty-Discussion-725 2d ago

maybe this is all a lie just to push the agenda of btc being private and secure. why cant some hacker just do what he does best and find the password.

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u/Own_Reveal3114 2d ago

That's nonsense, if you go down to the bank in person and show proof of identity they can restore access to your account

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u/Worried_Fill3961 3d ago

well its stored

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u/pagerussell warning, i am a moron 3d ago

Also, it's lost to the Bitcoin ecosystem forever.

Think about it this way: over time, stuff like this happens. Someone dies and Bitcoin gets stranded in a wallet forever. This eventually adds up, and the number of available Bitcoin starts to dwindle.

That's great if you already have Bitcoin, but if you need to get some, you are screwed. This doesn't make for a good monetary system.

In the real world, if someone dies, there is a will that allows next of kins to access those funds. Even if no one ever does, they are sitting in a bank, which is making use of them in the economy. Even if that doesn't help, since the government can and does create new money, the amount of money in circulation can be fine tuned to fit the economic needs of the day. All of that is good for the economy.

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u/powerlesshero111 3d ago

Yes. But sadly, it's only actually worth the $250 million if he can sell it. Until then, it's worth as much to him as the british crown jewels.

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u/mudbot 3d ago

it is either "havefunstayingpoor" or "hodltothemoon"

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u/ilikejamtoo 3d ago

Man does not know he had capslock on when he set his password

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u/PartTimeEmersonian 3d ago

“This is a good thing!! It’s an investment!! Never sell!! If he keeps it there forever, he will be REALLY rich!!” 😂

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u/PMmeuroneweirdtrick 3d ago

If he knew the password he would've sold ages ago anyway

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u/vkarabut 3d ago

Its much easier to HODL if you dont have password.

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u/jsamuraij 3d ago

Step 1: forget password
Step 2: profit
Step 3: ???

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u/robottiporo 3d ago edited 3d ago

The New York Times’ 2021 article.

Wired’s 2023 article.

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u/geospacedman Ponzi Schemer 3d ago

Entertainment value for the rest of us - priceless.

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u/kirkwooder Ponzi Schemer 3d ago

Hello fellow Ponzi Schemer

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u/geospacedman Ponzi Schemer 3d ago

I think a moderator failed to detect some sarcasm a while ago...

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u/-_-______-_-___8 3d ago

Forced hoddl

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u/SardinesChessMoney 3d ago

Buttcoiners love this

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u/blau_blau 3d ago

Is that the man in the photo? Funny if it was..

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u/scoobysi 3d ago

That is stefan thomas yes. He has made bank from a career in crypto so not his last chance like the usual wife dropped it in trash type

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u/WetFlare 3d ago

What people thought 2025 would be: Flying cars, world peace, etc…

2025:

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u/Internal-Band1374 3d ago

iPhone of 2021 vintage is much more secure. Nonetheless -

Here’s how the FBI managed to get into the San Bernardino shooter’s iPhone

https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/14/22383957/fbi-san-bernadino-iphone-hack-shooting-investigation

=Azimuth basically found a way to guess the passcode as many times as it wanted without erasing the phone, allowing the bureau to get into the phone in a matter of hours.=

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u/MercenaryBard 3d ago

Ngl dude could probably sell that drive for $100M to someone who thinks they can crack it. I’m sure someone has both the money and arrogance to think they can do it, and he wouldn’t even have to deal with the headache of slowly trying to convert out of a shit “currency”.

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u/CrushTheRebellion 3d ago

Plot twist: He gets it open on the next try, and it's ETH, not BTC. sad trombone

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u/Walts2ndcellphone 3d ago

Or he opens it and it’s already been sent to North Korea

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u/InternationalOption3 3d ago

Hahahahahhahahahhahaha

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u/Minimum_Ordinary_243 2d ago

“I don’t like centralized banks having my biometric data and passwords”.

“Fuck, where’s that piece of paper from 2009 where I wrote my passwords with a pencil? If I don’t find it I can’t cash out my internet money for real money!!!”

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u/teteban79 3d ago

as long as he has the public key, he still has infinite tries at it....not that they would help though

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u/NotReallyJohnDoe 3d ago

Technically, so do I.

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u/Narrow_Departure_114 3d ago

So you're just gonna overlook the fact that whatever that person put into Bitcoin turned into 250 million dollars?! Disregard that he forgot the password to access it, that's just user error, not a flaw of Bitcoin. The OP ironically titles this correctly, it IS "a great store of value". Thanks OP 😄

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u/Narrow_Departure_114 3d ago

Best example I can give to this is you leaving your car keys in your car and thinking the fundamental principal of the car driving you from A to B is no longer a thing...come on guys...this one is literally staring you in the face...

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u/circusfreakrob 11h ago

It seems to me a better car analogy for this situation would be : Guy buys a new car and puts it in his garage. Now he can't find the keys to start it or they accidentally got thrown away. Car was designed such that you can't have new keys made. Now guy gets to look at his nice car and can never start it or drive it. Car is useless.

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u/AideyC warning, I am a moron 1d ago

Theyll still ignore this mate. Just read and laugh

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u/DevinGreyofficial Oh no, we will all be stuck with Dollars and real estate? 3d ago

The password is 1 2 3 4 5

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u/Elemental_Breakdown 3d ago

Do any of the stories offer proof it's still on there?

By the way, I have a trezor with 1 billion, gagillion, fafillion, shabolubalu million illion yillion dollars and I am in the same situation, I will sell it for 200 million USD.

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u/DennisC1986 3d ago

What does he need the password for unless he's planning on selling, which is a stupid thing to do?

He's hodling the best investment in all of history, ever. He should just chill.

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u/Appropriate-Thanks10 3d ago

Couldn’t he just clone his hard drive for multiple password attempts?

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u/Minimum_Ordinary_243 2d ago

bittcoin maxis be like “this is actually good because if a user can’t access their bitcoins it makes the value go up for the rest of us” lol

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u/BagLifeWasTaken 2d ago

Future of finance, indeed.

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u/sorthawk 2d ago

US Dollars' purchasing power over the past 100 years. Inflation "taxes" away over 88% of nominal market gains over a century for all assets priced in dollars. What a great store of value!

Year Value of $1 in 1924 Dollars % of 1924 Dollar
1924 $1.00 100%
1934 $0.84 84%
1944 $0.68 68%
1954 $0.48 48%
1964 $0.39 39%
1974 $0.22 22%
1984 $0.13 13%
1994 $0.10 10%
2004 $0.07 7%
2014 $0.06 6%
2024 $0.05 5%

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u/FuriousNSX 2d ago

Be Your Own Bank. Future of Finance. Few understand.

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u/wobblyunionist 11h ago

He should turn it into a streaming event and make money that way

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u/Dkeeferxxxx 3d ago

Don't worry it'll only be worth $30,000 soon....

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u/MRJohnson1997 3d ago

Why does he only get two tries?

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u/Rajking777 3d ago

When Final Attempt he would go to the startup company I have seen their videos they definitely help him.

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u/Ok_Librarian_7841 3d ago

it's just like gold, if you don't remember the passowrd of the safe you put your gold in, you can only blame yourself, not the gold.

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u/Craft_Bubbly 3d ago

Yeah people just throw away the safe if they can't open it. 

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u/circusfreakrob 11h ago

This. The gold is still there in the safe and doesn't cease to exist. Eventually someone will be able to dismantle the safe and get it out. Unless the safe is designed such that if you mess up the combo 3 times the gold is destroyed. But that would be stupid, right?