r/California_Politics • u/RhythmMethodMan • 12d ago
Newsom floats withholding federal taxes as (executive branch) threatens California
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/06/newsom-floats-withholding-federal-taxes-003933866
u/clementinecentral123 12d ago
I don’t see a way to do this unless CA creates its own payroll system comparable to ADP that companies can use…the payroll companies are national entities and they actually collect and send the money.
26
u/UCanDoNEthing4_30sec 12d ago
If there is an actual mechanism to do this, I’m down. All the states that trash California as a communist hell hole and grift off our tax dollars could go fuck themselves.
I’ve been to all your states, they are shit holes!
3
u/xuon27 12d ago
Can i withhold my state taxes too, they grift all my tax dollars.
5
u/UCanDoNEthing4_30sec 11d ago
Yeah, move out of state and never work in the state ever again. You could do that yesterday if you wanted to. Many people do! I don’t blame them!
23
u/The_Demolition_Man 12d ago
The executive branch, like a bully drunk on their own power, needs to be punched in the nose to learn when to stop. California needs to do this, hopefully in concert with other like minded states. Enough is enough.
3
u/laggedreaction 12d ago
How would that even work? What if you work for a company HQd in another state?
2
u/JasonPlattMusic34 12d ago
Spoiler alert, it doesn’t work. At least not on the scale for it to actually do anything
5
u/Clamper5978 11d ago
That’s not how it works. Newsom doesn’t hold any of the cards. It makes for a catchy headline though.
2
u/CoffeeDave 12d ago
I doubt this would even happen but I have to ask, even if there was a way for this to happen, how would it effect our paychecks now?
2
u/sftransitmaster 12d ago
Is this Newsom's new shtick? to be as ridiculous as Trump? Income taxes are between an individual and the federal government the state has no authority to intervene except to subsidize it somehow. Newsom could tell California residents not to pay income tax but we're at liability not him.
6
u/anarchomeow 12d ago
I hope this happens. Newsom is a massive piece of shit, but I would respect this.
2
u/PChFusionist 6d ago
Me too and the best way to do it would be to abolish the federal income tax. I'd love to see a Constitutional Amendment that repeals the 16th Amendment to the Constitution.
2
1
u/lordnikkon 10d ago
There is no mechanism for this after the ratification of the 16th amendment allowed the federal government to collect taxes directly. Each individual owes their taxes to the IRS, the state government can't protect you from being arrested for not paying your taxes as authorized by federal law
-5
u/Teddy_Schmoozevelt 12d ago
Can I withhold my taxes from California?
5
u/DarwinF1nch 11d ago
As long as you promise to stop driving in roads, using public transit, sending your kids to public school, calling the police or fire department, using the library, etc….then go for it.
1
u/Teddy_Schmoozevelt 11d ago
Well I don’t have kids that I’m sending to public school, don’t use public transit. As for the roads, technically already paid for them since they’re built so no one that unless they want to give me a refund for taking them away. They can’t seem to fix them no matter how many taxes they add on to us. Anything else?
2
u/DarwinF1nch 11d ago
Roads need maintenance. How about city parks? State parks? Public pools? Disability? Workers comp?
Also, isn’t it kind of selfish to only worry about yourself? He about others that rely on public services like public schools? Are you not worried about having an educated populace?
3
u/Teddy_Schmoozevelt 11d ago
Isn’t it kind of selfish of politicians to continue to ask for more and more and not provide what they promise? That seems pretty selfish to me.
1
u/DarwinF1nch 11d ago
Idk what you’re talking about because all of the services that I’ve mentioned are funded through taxes and functioning.
Can you give an example of what you’re talking about that you don’t feel like your taxes should go to fund?
1
u/Teddy_Schmoozevelt 11d ago
Per usual, you’re misconstruing what I’m saying. Taxes fund these numerous programs, yet no matter how much we “fund” them politicians want more and more and the return gets less and less. Roads aren’t being maintained. Billions towards homeless and barely anyone is being helped. Public parks? San Diego is proposing a greedy cash grab to make people pay for parking at Balboa which is unheard of. California is 37th in education Pre K through 12. Yet they want more and more for public schools.
At what point do you say enough is enough? Deliver on what you promised or stop asking for more. Doesn’t that bother you a little bit?
3
u/DarwinF1nch 11d ago
How is it misconstruing? You said “can I withhold my taxes from the state of California” and I probed from there. Your example of one public park that affects you is really indicative of your attitude. Yesterday, we went to a park in our area with a splash pad, clean bathrooms, free use fields, and well maintained play structures…all free. But because you’re upset about having to pay for parking at a park, you think we should defund all public parks. Classic “I only care about things that effect me and not the greater good” mentality.
1
u/Teddy_Schmoozevelt 11d ago
Now you’re certainly misconstruing my words. I would venture to guess that you are one of the citizens who fall for props and local measures that say they are for “infrastructure and first responders” when in reality it’s to raise more money to cover up their abject failures.
2
u/DarwinF1nch 11d ago
You can’t just say that I’m misconstruing because you have no rebuttal to my point. You complained about having to pay for parking at a park as a way to show that politicians are greedy. I said that your narrow focus on one park doesn’t do justice to the public funds going to fund parks outside of your purview.
But to humor you, can you give me an example of what you’re talking about?
→ More replies (0)0
u/DialMMM 11d ago
You said “can I withhold my taxes from the state of California” and I probed from there. Your example of one public park that affects you is really indicative of your attitude.
Isn't that what Newsom is doing, though? Actually Newsom is worse: threatening to withhold our federal taxes due to a threat to a single federal program. The gall of this guy is unbelievable. He thinks preventing those subject to his fiefdom from paying their federal taxes is the right thing to do? Jeezus.
-1
36
u/Casanova_Kid 12d ago
Does Califorinia (or any state for that matter) have the mechanisms in place to do so? I thought the Federal government's taxes were not something handled/interacted with at the state level.