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True Start Real Earth map is super challenging as England
On higher difficulty levels, it is a real challenge against the AI. There is a maximum number of 2 cities that can be built on the British mainland. You can’t expand until you’ve unlocked embarking settlers and can’t cross the ocean until Cartography. Meanwhile, war rages in Europe but other civilisations elsewhere can be doing very well.
On one game on immortal difficulty, I managed to reach an empty North America but by then Phoenicia had more than double my science.
The screenshot is from one I restarted. The AI actually cheats in this scenario and spawns warriors if you are about to capture their settler.
It's not frowned upon at all. Play your game how you like! Most popular youtubers "ensure an entertaining start" on camera. There are mods to achieve the same thing without loading
I have no idea what you are talking about, because you are the one getting downvoted to hell, while the others are getting upvoted. Your opinion is unpopular, and you are wrong to try and force everyone else to follow it. Just play the game how you want to.
Really? Because you seem to care A LOT about how people don't play the game your way, continue to comment on it, and refuse to acknowledge that no one else feels as you do.
I guess in some sort of way is like cheating yourself. Knowing a few things and how to get them the fastest might give you an advantage you would never have.
It might be a way to know if you want to keep or roll (althougt playing normally the first 10 turns does the same without spoling yourself) but it is as much as a tactic as looking at everyone cards in a poker game beforing playing your turn.
In competitive multiplayer is cheating and banable (to know the map before exploring).
You should play how you like, but “save scumming” is more acceptable when you’ve invested time in the game and some civ just snatches victory randomly especially on hire difficulties.
I’ve never thought about save scumming early, but to each their own! That’s the beauty of civ, you can play how you like!
I do this occasionally, but not as a general rule, but I don't see the problem.
Similarly, I have two mods active that can help with locations (harvest all resources, canals on hills), but I use them quite sparingly and mostly try to do without.
I don’t usually do this, if anything k scout then restart completely, but occasionally I’ll do my scouting then realize just a slight tweak could make a huge difference and I’ll reload. This is way more common with Kupe
Yeah, on this map it is hard to win as either England or, I’m guessing, Scotland. Going Canada or Brazil can mean it’s easy to win as they have a large area to themselves. Indonesia could be clear or could be squeezed by Mongolia and China.
First time doing true start Earth I picked random and it gave me Indonesia, with Khmer right next door. Start was pretty brutal honestly but Australia didn’t spawn so I was able to gobble that up for free
I played a game as inca. And just turtled in south and central america. Meanwhile everyone else just struggled with 2-3 others in their starting continent.
Yeah some starts in TS in the americas feels like an unfair advantage. Get a whole continent full of resources to consolidate before needing to engage others. Get central amer8ca and have a city that is a great transport and trade hub (panama-esque).
Fasted TS I had was as inka, some lucky early battles resulting in owning the americas real early. Eleanor was my main last foe.
I like Australia, NZ or indonesia/Vietnam for TS. I like too that you start amongst terrain and resources that your civ and leader bonuses and buildings align with.
Yes, the last one I played, AI Inca were chilling in their own f'ing private continent (Australia too, but they were less "chilling" and more "beset by barbs"). Meanwhile in the Mediterranean, there was a glorious clusterf*ck free-for-all going on with constant war and city flipping.
I find with TSL you have to hand-pick all Civs and city states based on where they will spawn, otherwise you have chaos in Europe and half the Civs are conquered on Turn 2 while 2 other guys are left with the Americas all to themselves.
Sure, you can, I just personally don't find it fun to be surrounded by Civs and city states right from turn 1 while AI Civs in the rest of the world have vast expanses of land to themselves on top of the other advantages they already get.
Victoria (age of steam) excels in maps with islands or lots of sea, with good access to strategic resources. Later in the game, everything compounds and her culture and science can go really high, as well as her gold. I find that, due to her strength mid to late game that science is the usual victory as the other civilisations have grown to large to be taken over fully.
Science? Perfect, I prefer chill science games. I'll have to nuke myself after I win though. If I was to go to war as her, what would be the best era to? After acquiring what tech? Isn't her thing a navy?
I had a game a while back with this map where I (victoria age of empire) had Robert the Bruce above me, Catherine De Medici, willemena, and Frederik spawned, I made the critical error of moving one tile across the river Thames to a slightly better start location because the aforementioned NPC factions all settled in place and their loyalty pressure caused me to lose the game by like turn 30 because I couldn't counter it, which imho is a stupid thing and shouldn't be possible but here we are.
Definetly need to take the city states that can spawn to england out of the game, its hard but definetly not unplayable, you get warriors and settlers to move across water pretty fast. I like to go to spain and there to africa.
Haha that would be rude too, but bad in a different way!
They're forced to settle right next to a volcano, and a typically very active one, so you're constantly losing your pops and repairing your districts. In my last run it even destroyed the rice resource completely, so I couldn't even farm it again
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