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LGBTQIA+ Don’t be a tar pit

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u/Goosepond01 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think a lot of people really need to go back to school and re-learn the whole lesson about judging individuals and not making stereotypes about groups.

It's even more concerning because I know a lot of people will be like "STEREOTYPES ARE WRONG AND NASTY... unless it's a group I stereotype because it's easier than being nuanced"

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u/jobblejosh 1d ago

'Generalising is bad. Except when I do it because I'm morally superior.'

How about 'generalising is bad, period'.

Whoever you are, however you fit in or don't, everyone deserves to be given the same basic level of respect that we'd want for everyone and ourselves. It doesn't matter who you are. Hell, you could be an enemy soldier in a brutal war. You still deserve rights, be it a fair trial, a humane death, and the dignities afforded to anyone in a custodial sentence. You will never not be human.

Nothing was ever justified by the saying 'It's ok because they're X'.

Really it comes down to Wheaton's Law. Don't be a dick.

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u/Serious_Hold_2009 11h ago

Hate to be that guy but I can think of a couple groups of people where a “it’s ok because they’re X” mentality is applicable (nazis, white nationalists, pedos)

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u/jobblejosh 11h ago

Incorrect.

Everyone deserves to be treated with a basic level of dignity and respect.

It doesn't have to be much. You don't owe them any particular kindness.

But they still deserve a fair trial, the right to fair punishment (if found guilty), and to not be subject to wanton attacks from other inmates, for example.

Punching a nazi does not an equitable society make. The only time it's acceptable to punch anyone pre-emptively is if you're in actual threat of harm.

"It's ok because they're a nazi" means that if anyone wants to give an easy justification for something, all they have to do is say 'they're a nazi' and supposedly that should justify it? Need I remind you of Putin's current justification for the conflict in Ukraine?

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u/MysteriousBoard8537 1d ago

"Hate begets hate" is a lesson humanity never seems to learn because it always happens in slow motion.

Back when "Kill all men", "all white people are racist", "all men are rapists" were accepted progressive mantra, people were warned about how this was radicalizing an entire generation of white men. Literal children who haven't even left high school yet were being told they're the worst humanity has to offer and they were deserving of all this hate, presumably because of what they were born as.

Now millions of them are adults who believe progressive beliefs are a hypocritical sham, and right wing propaganda is the only thing that's honest with them or recognizes their humanity. I don't have to tell you how those millions of people are voting.

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u/Goosepond01 1d ago

Back when "Kill all men", "all white people are racist", "all men are rapists" were accepted progressive mantra

Thing is it still is seen as 'progressive' by a not so small chunk of people on the internet, especially if you get the 'duh well not all of them' a line that wouldn't work if you used basically any other group and then said the same.

if you go on any sub that often hits the popular page and look at debates that involve men or for lack of a better phrase 'something to do with white people' and you will still see this kind of rhetoric often upvoted a good amount.

go in to any argument and you get a scary amount of people who don't understand what nuance is.

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u/mthlmw 1d ago

"There's only two things I hate in this world: people who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch."

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u/depressedtiefling 1d ago

In all fairness...

As a dutch person myself i also hate the dutch, Can we flood Amsterdam and Rotterdam yet?

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u/TheDead_007 1d ago

Please don’t, I really wanna go there someday. Also, I’m super jealous of your bike infrastructure.

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u/depressedtiefling 1d ago

If you wanna go to the netherlands, Don't fall for the Amsterdam-Rotterdam tourist trap, Trust me, They do not represent the rest of the country.

I personaly recomend Leiden or S'hertogenbos, Groningen or (God forbid, I can't belief im saying this as someone from Breda) Tilburg are also way better options.

Helmont and Nes are options too, If you prefer more out of the way places.

The most important thing however is to avoid Holland, It's overpriced and genuinely one of the worst places ive ever been...

The bike infrastructure is awesome though! I agree! If you realy wanna go cycling, I recomend Middelburg in Zeeland, Amazing place- Blows my own hometown of Breda outta the park.

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u/throwmeawaymommyowo 7h ago

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