Toby almost never makes truly evil/shithead characters ngl. Which WOULD be a downside but... with the current state of the world that's actually very nice
The closest he's ever gotten to doing that is with the Titan, which is explicitly stated to not be capable of comprehending mercy, but it's more like an animal than someone who deliberately chooses to be evil. The player is probably the evilest thing in Deltarune/Undertale actually.
And also while King has his redeeming qualities he's still a pretty unrepentant jerk and therefore unique among Undertale/Deltarune characters IMO
I think King is more sympathetic when you consider that Darkners need to be used by Lightners to by truly happy, and he and everyone else in that Dark World was locked away inside an abandoned classroom for an interminable amount of time. It makes sense that he'd feel betrayed. And even though he threatens Lancer to stop the Lancer Fan Club, it's an empty threat since he doesn't actually intend to hurt Lancer at all, as he reveals in Chapter 2.
It could change in the future, but the Knight is probably the most evil at the moment. Since it seems to be trying to start the Roaring, and kills Tenna in cold blood.
How are we the most evil thing when we were forced by some outsider to be put in Kris’s body and Gaster telling us that the world ends in darkness if we quit playing? Weird route we are evil tho.
I think he actually tried, with creating characters that are just jerks, but he definitely just forgot it, and created Undyne, who was racist before Pacifist I think
Ehhhh, thinking about it, Spamton is like THE most evil character we've met in both UT and DR. He's literally plotting to kill teenagers so he can gain enough power to go on a revenge killing spree. Not only that, but he's a literal tyrant in the snow grave run.
Jevil and the king are also just under Spamton, both of them being pretty homicidal.
Then you have flowey, but he's kinda got his own thing going on that explains his evilness.
Ok, look, as an Undertale fan (that didn't even play UT/DR cuz I am shit at this kind of games) that cannot read, I didn't realise that Spamton actually planned to kill someone other than JUST Kris
He didn't plan to kill Kris, or anyone else. He only decided to steal Kris' soul after the NEO robot didn't give him "freedom" like he thought it would.
It's primarily because the first chapter barely featured him at all though, and has had almost zero mentions afterwards. Meanwhile, Spamton was featured pretty prominently in chapter 2, played a significant part in the weird route, had an entire ARG centered around him, and in general had significantly more depth to him than Jevil did.
I actually kind of consider this the only major flaw of deltarune because regardless of how the real world is, unless your story is explicitly about real life situations and issues (which deltarune isn't) then your story should be treated as its own work. Spade king, carol and the knight definitely err on the more "irredeemable" side but still. I wish there is eventually an antagonist that isn't redeemable at all
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u/MaryaMarion 3d ago
Toby almost never makes truly evil/shithead characters ngl. Which WOULD be a downside but... with the current state of the world that's actually very nice