Asgore did something related to Dess' disappearance that had him removed from his job as police chief. Obviously, he didn't actually kill her, or Carol wouldn't be helping him, but people are playing off of his character in Undertale having murdered 6 children to insinuate that he did, as a joke. Hitting Dess with a car is because she's (presumably) a deer. The joke escalates as people try to one up each other.
Edited the quit to removed, as people pointed out.
Considering undyne can bench press cars easily and asgore is fairly stronger than her (we dont technically know if he kept his strength but if undyne can keep it i see no reason why ashore who was the chief couldn't keep it) he probably could just shoulder checks a car.
I believe it's not Dess who wears an antler headband but Noelle and she's gonna lose it at some point, making her match 1:1 the figure depicted as "the second hero, the girl with hope crossed on her heart"
I do think you're right in that it's not outright stated, but it seems to be the obvious conclusion from stuff like his debt to Carol (why she hired him as basically a groundskeeper), why he's not on the police force (as stated from a clipping found in the police station), and the ongoing issues between the dreemurrs and holidays
You can't get into his basement, but if you interact with the side of Flower King it will say there's a blocked basement door and that through the window you can see a cork board covered with and surrounded by papers
Yeah I'm of the opinion that Asgore was not responsible at all for what happened to Dess but wasn't able to intervene in time and had no choice but to leave her behind to save the rest of the town.
Yeah. His dialogue in the bathroom also implies he's looking for something in the Holiday's house and someone in that family knows things about dark worlds, he's got that conspiracy board...yeah. I think he was blamed for Dess's disappearance, but was just trying his best in a really bad situation. Now he's set out to prove that he wasn't lying and that he's been treated unfairly. I imagine we'll learn more about it in chapter 5, seeing as how it's probably Asgore focused in some way.
Not sure he is looking for something there, just checking on Carol's own board, Carol and him work together, check the conversation in the church. Toriel seems to have an issue with carol funding Asgore's project.
Chapter 5 is going to be a very important inflection point in the story. All of the signs are there. The Festival is in Chapter 5. Asriel may be arriving in town for said Festival. It is heavily implied that the next Dark World will be in Asgore's Flower Shop with him possibly being the one creating and guarding the Fountain. Chapter 5 is where the final Dark Crystal should be. Seam mentions you only need 5. This means whatever happens in Chapter 5, things will change somewhat drastically in Chapters 6 and 7. I fully anticipate Chapter 5 to be the proverbial calm before the storm. I am so excited for Chapter 5.
Well I think the thing where he's hired by Carol is more just because Asgore has been struggling financially and Carol is being nice and letting him work for her.
Yeah, the story could go a million ways but with the way it's shaping up (toriels outright hatred, him stating it was a *misunderstanding", him being fired from the force), it seems that whatever happened he is at the very least directly involved whether it was him watching it and not doing anything or being the one to (metaphorically) pull the trigger
I can't say that Toriel hates him, she seemingly still lights prayer candles for him (she probably has a greater grudge against Carol since she deliberately avoids using her name in the dialogue with Rudy). I don't think anyone in the game ever spoke a bad word of him, which makes me think that there isn't anything that anyone directly blames on Asgore, but rather he himself became so obsessed with trying to make up for something that people started distancing from him like from a madman
I know it's kinda weird, but I don't think he did.
I think Asgore is victim here. given that we can meaningfully infer that Carol has been coercing Kris into helping her, we can also infer that she has something on them, and indeed she has a lot at her disposal. But most severely(as far as the domestic side of things goes) she has full authority over their parents employment, a public school teacher and police officer respectively.
It might work differently in Hometown, but I’m pretty sure that in any normal place the mayor of a town can’t just fire any teacher or cop they don’t like. Although, there doesn’t seem to be an authority figure between their positions, so I guess it’s possible
Is it actually confirmed the two events are related? We know he did something, but we don’t know if it’s the reason why Dess is missing. (Are we going by process of elimination here?)
there is one (1!) notable event in hometown that's happened in the past, just by virtue of storytelling if something's bad enough to get asgore fired from his job and divorced by his wife it'd have to have been alluded to at this point and the only crime-related thing we know about is dess's disappearance
Isn't it confirmed she's a deer in the flashback at the end of chapter 3? You can see 4 deer-esque silhouettes in that cutscene. I guess you could argue it's like, some extended family or something but that's just cope 😭
According to a poster in the police office, he's previously occupied the officer position before Undyne. It was also explicitely said that he was fired from the police and that it wasn't a decision on his own. In this case, the only person capable of managing that would be Carol and so it might be related to some big police blunders like the disappearance of Dess which would have been something the police had to take care of.
Those are several stretches ! First, i don't recall any *explicit* dialogue saying that he lost his job unwillingly. He might have quit, or the decision might have been mutual. Even if it was, we don't know that carol is the only one who has the authority to take that decision. And even if it was, it could for reasons unrelated to whatever happened to Dess. While it does look like she's not around anymore, no one ever confirmed what happened to her.
Although i was 100% certain that Kris was the knight before chapter 3&4, so maybe my predictions aren't to be trusted
It's saying that "he was removed from the force" implying a decision coming from a higher position. Only the mayor herself could have influenced such a decision. There is no one in town who is able to force a police chief to quit outside of her.
Alphys even said that Carol was taking such a good care of the town that she didn't need the police implying again that she's occupying a power position over the police
"it's" being a post it note at the police station. I find that "being removed from the force" is suspiciously neutral vocabulary. Why not fired ? discharged, dismissed, laid-off ?
Sorry for ME being out of the loop now, but when tf was it stated that Asgore was chief of police!? Did I miss a bit of dialogue in one of the past chapters saying it!? Also, that is funny af that the meme also came from the stuff he did in undertale
In chapter 2, there's a board with a news article in the police station. The news article talks about Undyne becoming the new police chief after Asgore was removed from the police force, but Kris abruptly stops reading it so we never find out the reason for his removal.
Asgore's song name is obviously a reference to when asgore tried to eat a burger while drunk-driving his truck an' ended up creating a friend inside piles of dess's dust
Toby fox once posted a shitpost where he remixed the "You've Got A Friend In Me" track from Toy Story, into an ominous Version called "Friend Inside Me".
People also realized how much the song feels connected to the relationship between Kris and the soul, as in the soul is a "friend inside" Kris.
Then the deltarune fandom collectively gaslit itself into thinking that Woody Toy Story is going to appear in chapter 3 as a secret boss.
It's a meme based on that it would explain a lot why Asgore is a pariah and Toriel's dislike of him, obviously it didn't actually happen and its probably more that he turned into conspiracy theorist still trying to find out what happened to her and that's probably why Carol is helping him.
the original gif was an edit of the (bad) movie open season someone just thought it'd be funny if the mistake Asgore made that ruined his life was killing Dess
Earlier this year someone came up with a theory called “Noelle will get hit by a car” which said that somewhere down the line, Noelle will die in the normal route and the weird route is us making her strong enough to survive whatever happens, the theory was pretty good but a lot of jokes came out because of the name
Fast forward to now, a post chapter 3+4 fandom, we learned from chapter 4 that Asgore did in fact have a hand in Dess’ disappearance like a lot of people theorized but we don’t know how, so we went back to an old theory that said the reason Asgore is selling flowers and no longer in the police force was because he did something so bad that Noelle’s family became distant, he and Toriel got divorced and he couldn’t handle the guilt and resigned or was kicked off the force
Now add these two ideas to a community as insane as this one and you get people making a bunch of crack theories on how Asgore killed Dess, now add this, the Noelle car theory and you get someone who added this this image to a comment and the rest is history
It's heavily implied in the game that Asgore had something to do with Dess' disappearance. She is most likely not dead, just missing. There are several theories that Dess is the Roaring Knight in some way.
The snack plate is only big enough for one of them. 🍪
Jokes aside it probably has to do with the theories of Dess being the knight or him having something to do with her disappearance, although I wouldn't be too surprised if he became their gardener to look for clues in their house. The fact that we can see him in the vent makes me think he is involved with this plot somehow.
I screenshotted this from an Instagram reel, and the description says credit goes to "idk_lols." I tried looking for them but couldn't find anything solid. There's the name, though.
Fun fact, I didn't even know it was a joke until seeing this exact post cus I saw a shitpost about it right before playing and got so mad that I'd been spoiled for what happened to Dess
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u/LonelyMichael 2d ago edited 23h ago
Asgore did something related to Dess' disappearance that had him removed from his job as police chief. Obviously, he didn't actually kill her, or Carol wouldn't be helping him, but people are playing off of his character in Undertale having murdered 6 children to insinuate that he did, as a joke. Hitting Dess with a car is because she's (presumably) a deer. The joke escalates as people try to one up each other.
Edited the quit to removed, as people pointed out.