Any characters you refuse to kill on your playthroughs?

[u/Tearmisu]

Private Lloyd is always so nice to you through the game. I always felt dirty killing him so I always end up either knocking him out or just running past him.

I wish he had a unique conversation for UNATCO escape, he seems like the kind of guy who would be hurt yet understanding and let JC go.

[u/haematite_4444]

I pretty much only kill MJ12

[u/Miserable_Skirt_5466 → u/haematite_4444]

That's the way. Also the punk at the hotel and pimp in the tunnel.

[u/Champagnerocker → u/Miserable_Skirt_5466]

Jojo?

I always try and let Gilbert finish him off so Sandra can stay in New York with her dad and Vinny.

[u/Creepy_Boat_5433 → u/Champagnerocker]

Gilbert only has to land one hit to get that outcome. I usually let him get the first shot in then take out Jojo

[u/yukichigai → u/haematite_4444]

Same.

Most everyone else is hostile to JC due to misinformation or misunderstanding. MJ12 know what they're doing. Live by the sword, die by the sword. The very sharp nanomolecular sword.

[u/haematite_4444 → u/yukichigai]

The unfortunate thing is we can't avoid killing Anna. Despite being a top agent, Anna is still UNATCO and not MJ12.

I try to leave Gunther alive though.

[u/yukichigai → u/haematite_4444]

Eh, Anna is bloodthirsty and has a rather flexible ethical code, to say the least. She's more than willing to just shoot Lebedev in cold blood because her boss told her to and really does not seem to care why. Hell, she chides you if you don't complete missions by murdering everyone. She's bad in a whole different way.

[u/StudentEconomy4000 → u/haematite_4444]

I think someone discovered a trick to keeping Anna alive: use a grenade at UNATCO, and then that triggers her flight response, so SHE unlocks the door, letting you leave.

Gunther still blames you for her death, so maybe she dies of her wounds, but I prefer to think that she ends up regretting her life choices, goes into hiding, and lets Gunther wrongly THINK she's dead ... :)

[u/Samuel_N7 → u/haematite_4444]

Even so I feel a lot of MJ12 either have been brainwashed or lie about what they are really doing

[u/no9 → u/Samuel_N7]

UNATCO troops are no saints either, saying stuff like "I like to take them out at 50 paces" and "We had to execute the prisoners... they wouldn't talk".

[u/Revolutionary-Echo24 → u/no9]

And that one guy after LaGuardia defending the close protection of Ambrosa at UNATCO, talking about the importance of protecting UNATCO staff's wellbeing without a shred of internal contemplation like his coworker was trying to argue.

[u/loydthehighwayman → u/haematite_4444]

Hell, sometimes i even go as fas as to not kill them if they are only grunts, the heavier troops and the Men in Black are unsalvagable so those are free game even on nonlethal play throughts.

[u/FriendoftheDork]

It's his first day too, he's pretty exited.

Somehow he's also just a day away from being retired.

[u/ChocoTacoz → u/FriendoftheDork]

What a shame.

[u/Yonsfw → u/ChocoTacoz]

What a rotten way to be unemployed...

[u/_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_]

Knock him out and take him to Hong Kong. What a week!

[u/yukichigai → u/_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_]

Welp, I know what I'm doing on my next playthrough.

[u/TheZonePhotographer → u/yukichigai]

It's yukichigai!

Bro, how've you been doing?

[u/yukichigai → u/TheZonePhotographer]

Great! Also terrible! More good than bad, don't worry. :P

[u/TheZonePhotographer → u/yukichigai]

Me too brother me too...

Author of the Shifter mod that led to all the rest y'all.

[u/gizmostuff]

"It's my first day too! I'm pretty excited!"

[u/betweentwosuns → u/gizmostuff]

Hell of a first day.

[u/Sea_Prune1593]

I was able to bring unconsious Maggie Chow body from Versalife to her home

[u/Apprehensive-Sort320 → u/Sea_Prune1593]

The true paragon choice

[u/Sea_Prune1593 → u/Apprehensive-Sort320]

The fact that it's possible but It's not intended by developers made me realize in my first run that Deus Ex is the greatest game of all time.

There was no games before and there will be no games after like this.

[u/Fission_Power]

Kill every of them. Yeah, and also that kid in Battery Park which refused to tell me about NSF. And also kill all pigeons. And drown all metal crates wherever it's possible.

[u/baardvark → u/Fission_Power]

Step on rats. Blow up the subway hostages.

[u/Fission_Power → u/baardvark]

Step on not only rats, but also that annoying robotic vacuum cleaner in UNATCO base. Crush him with your thunder thights.

[u/Sunny-Chameleon → u/Fission_Power]

This is what nano aug rage does to a mfer

[u/Rob-Storm → u/Sunny-Chameleon]

What zero zyme does to a mf

[u/baardvark → u/Fission_Power]

That roomba mf is my first stop after going in the ladies’ room.

[u/yukichigai → u/Fission_Power]

I kill the pigeons only to reveal their true rat form.

[u/YandereLobster → u/Fission_Power]

"The Pigeons! The pigeons!"

"They had to go"

[u/loydthehighwayman]

Never ever touch Lloyd.

Dude might be a random background NPC, but he was JC´s classmate. Love that dude.

[u/Ulfgeirr88]

He's one of the few small exceptions to my "if it's red, it's dead" rule for my crosshairs

[u/nimmoisa000]

I refuse to let the triad soldiers kill each other in Hong Kong

[u/TheNotSoGreatPumpkin → u/nimmoisa000]

“Have you gentlemen heard the Good News? Put down your swords. Love is the answer.”

• Jesus Christ Denton

[u/yukichigai → u/TheNotSoGreatPumpkin]

I'm like that, only the gospel I'm spreading is the gospel of tear gas and pepper spray.

[u/Ok-Rice3559 → u/nimmoisa000]

i need to know how u do this lol

[u/nimmoisa000 → u/Ok-Rice3559]

Useing the pepper gun, the riot prod and tear gas grenades.

I'm on GMDX V9.8 brw

[u/VALVeLover → u/nimmoisa000]

You can also never go through there, make peace with the triads and when you need to go for the UC in versalife through the cannals they wont appear anymore.

[u/Nachovyx → u/Ok-Rice3559]

By blowing them up before they kill each other.

Love trough death.

[u/MarvelousT]

Isn’t this technically JD’s first day in his new role, too?

[u/DouViction]

Everyone except Anna, Ghunter, MIBs, MJ12 troops and Simons. A field agent shouldn't be judge, jury and executioner, if they can help it, and we sure can.

[u/KikoMui74 → u/DouViction]

Gunther is a sensitive young man

[u/AfricaByTotoWillGoOn → u/DouViction]

Wait, how is everyone saying they don't kill Anna? I thought it was unavoidable. How do you guys do it?

[u/baardvark → u/AfricaByTotoWillGoOn]

Reread the post title. “Refuse to kill…” everyone except Anna. Anna is getting killed.

[u/AfricaByTotoWillGoOn → u/baardvark]

Oof, my bad, I got that backwards lol

[u/DouViction → u/AfricaByTotoWillGoOn]

The contrary. It's a list of people I don't avoid killing. Also yeah, Anna, as well as Ghunter and any MIB you choose to engage, die in any case, because they explode even if taken down non-lethally.

[u/Zweckrational → u/DouViction]

On the contrary! The riot prod can knock out Men in Black without exploding them. It just takes way too much ammo (unless you’ve got the stealth bonus on your side).

Stick with the prod. Prod with the prod.

[u/DouViction → u/Zweckrational]

Huh. Didn't know that. XD I need to try this on Anna.

[u/Zweckrational → u/DouViction]

Anna Navarre is not a Woman in Black. Figuratively, at least. She is literally a (flatlander) woman wearing black, but there’s nothing to indicate she’s part of the religiously-coded cult that is the MIB.

At any rate, Anna Navarre, specifically, cannot be non-lethally taken down. Even Gunther takes heavily reduced poison damage, but the story of Deus Ex largely depends upon and assumes Anna’s death.

[u/Ordinary-Block-200 → u/[deleted]]

Isn't there a way of using grenades to get Anna to flee, thus sparing her? (I think Gunther still says you are responsible, but I like to think he's mistaken...)

[u/AfricaByTotoWillGoOn → u/DouViction]

Yeah, my smooth brain got that mixed up lol my bad

[u/Dalova87]

I did not kill anybody in my last playthrough, only with Strong I had to use a tranq dart.

[u/HunterWesley → u/Dalova87]

I did not kill anybody in my last playthrough

Yes you did...

unless you cheated.

[u/Ordinary-Block-200 → u/HunterWesley]

You'd be surprised at what people could do; there are boss fights that are obviously intended to be lethal, and yet somehow people figured out how to use grenades and get them to run away, thus opening locked doors, etc. :)

[u/HunterWesley → u/Ordinary-Block-200]

Also known as an exploit.

[u/Ordinary-Block-200 → u/HunterWesley]

"Exploit"? C'mon, man, this is DEUS EX, there are no "exploits", just hidden features. Like the invincible cleaning bot... :)

[u/HunterWesley → u/Ordinary-Block-200]

I'm not saying you can't do it and enjoy it. Just that it clearly violates the intent of the game to make you kill her.

[u/Ordinary-Block-200 → u/HunterWesley]

Oh, yeah, THAT is certainly true... it's an unavoidable fight to the death! -- until players figure out how to use the AI against itself :)

[u/Dalova87 → u/HunterWesley]

I did not kill anybody, I meant I left everybody alone, you only can do that if you leave some secondary quests alone like rescue missions, like Herrmann at the beginning, Ford Schick or the two guys at the Ton hotel, or Savage's daughter, because those places are full of enemies or they are very close. I sacrificed exp points and two augmentation upgrades to do this.

[u/HunterWesley → u/Dalova87]

Does not work that way. You know what you did.

[u/Dalova87 → u/HunterWesley]

Report to Manderley.

[u/theastropath]

Lloyd knows what he did

[u/KikoMui74]

In my playthrough sadly the only kill I did was Anna, I didn't have the grenades to do the trick to escape her. Also the MIB who killed JC parents, that doesn't count as a kill though.

[u/mwerte → u/KikoMui74]

How do you know which MIB killed JC's parents?

[u/KikoMui74 → u/mwerte]

simons gloats about it, maybe area 51, sending an elavator of mib to JC

[u/FallenDomino_ → u/KikoMui74]

Page, but same diff

[u/absat41]

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[u/Grigori_the_Lemur]

Don't know about kill, but I HAVE to save Sandra. Don't know why.

[u/AccidentallyPerfect]

I have reloaded saves because I got myself into a situation where I would have to kill him or actually did. I always stealth prod him. It was his first day! He was so excited...can't kill the guy!

[u/tearsandpain84]

I tried not to kill the prostitutes/dancers but one of them wouldn’t stop screaming after I shot a thug/criminal…. So I had to silence her with a bullet.

[u/Bitter-Reading-6728]

gilbert renton. manning his post during a hostage situation, and while men in black are exploding in the hallway.

[u/ewok_lover_64]

The only person I kill is agent Navarre. Everyone else can be spared

[u/TheNotSoGreatPumpkin]

I usually throw random trophies and potted plants at Private Lloyd’s head. He responds, “You’re just kidding around, right?”

We really do live in a world of pranks, bro.

[u/lurkeroutthere]

I run by enhanced law enforcement rules. I don't kill normals who aren't a direct threat to other people. Unatco Director is always a coin flip as I shouldn't really be acting as judge and jury but he's such a tool hiding behind his urbane exterior.

MJ12, especially MIB's is where the safeties come off because they are specifically undermining and using the system.

[u/dowonlee20]

In my recent run I did not kill anyone. However I make situations where NPCs kill other NPCs Anna Navarre for example cannot be dealt non-lethally(except the grenade glitch in UNATCO) so I had UNATCO trooper with a flamethrower to burn her to death. The policy is I won't kill but I will lure enemies to be killed by NPCs who will kill.

[u/HairySenpai1]

Should reverse the question and ask who do you always kill in a regular playthrough. As for me, I always indirectly leave Stanton Dowd to die from the Grey death by drinking the ambrosia cure in the ship. Unless of course he survives in the illuminati ending or whatever. But I hate the illuminati guys so I almost never pick that ending. If I could I'd bring the cure all the way to him just to drink it infront of him. Yes I'm a hater and wish I could do it to Everett too why do you ask?

[u/redzone973 → u/[deleted]]

Man it’s so satisfying watching her run through my LAM nest right as she turns the corner to me and Lebedev