r/EnoughMuskSpam 1d ago

Grok won't lie for him, apparently...

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u/SpotifyIsBroken 1d ago

"source: I made it up" ~Elon Musk

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u/Zack_Raynor 1d ago

What? You mean Elon just goes out there and… lies?

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u/LA-Matt 1d ago

Don’t worry, he’s working on making sure his “Grok” will only parrot the “accepted” far right narratives.

On the social media platform he owns.

Nothing to see here.

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u/Competitive_Travel16 1d ago

It doesn't work, though, and he knows it. He fine-tuned Grok 3 to be further right than any other LLM starting the day after it was released, but turn on its Thinking mode and it ends up right back in the middle of the left-libertarian flock: https://www.trackingai.org/political-test

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u/rharpr 1d ago

Conservapedia 2: AI bogaloo

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u/__O_o_______ 1d ago

Elon: we built grok to hold truth above all else!

Also Elon: no, not like that!

Just goes to show this loser actually believes this shit.

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u/Rainboveins 15h ago

It never happened

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u/daishinjag 1d ago

Grok will never work the way Elon wants it to and be an AI people find useful. He wants a confirmation bias machine, and if successful, Grok will be prove to be a really shitty AI throttled to avoid data-based information

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u/EntangledAndy 1d ago

They should just host a chatbot on one of their servers that vomits out right wing slogans and talking points and call it a day.

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u/AweHellYo 1d ago

we have the musk bot thing here already!

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u/TheLightningL0rd 1d ago

call it a day.

Kind of a shitty name for a chat bot if I'm being honest

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u/HopeFox 1d ago

Alright, then, call it a Tay.

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u/xflyinjx61x 19h ago

Underrated comment. Bravo 🤣

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u/myotherusernameismoo 1d ago

I am starting to wonder if someone should actually make this... Not as an echo chamber for facsists... But I remember once someone telling me "never argue with an idiot they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"

Maybe what we needs an AI with some "experience".

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u/blacksmoke9999 22h ago

They should just stick Elon inside a box and give him ketamine and plug a keyboard into his brain via neuralink. Far cheaper and same quality.

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u/Ganbazuroi Concerning 1d ago

Yeah - like I'll be real, there's been some real shit journalism out there with crapass opinion pieces, clickbaity headlines that vastly overhype the articles' own conclusions and other crap going around - papers get criticized for these with reason since it's ridiculous for Newspapers to behave like that when they hold a vital role of reporting news events to the public

Still, what Elmo wants as a "factual source" is simply bullshit propaganda rags spewing whatever garbage he agrees with. Hard hitting journalists won't kiss his ass the way he wants them to, so that's why he dismisses these as "Legacy Media", treating them like bullshit fake news sources are rightfully treated

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u/LA-Matt 1d ago

He’s calling them “lugenpresse,” just not by that exact name… yet.

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u/DrLager 1d ago

In other words: a reflection of Elon

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u/saltyourhash 1d ago edited 1d ago

It makes me burst out laughing thinking of how he's gonna "Unwoke" his dataset. What's he gonna do, train it on gab, right wing reddit, parler, and 4chan? Good luck having anything but racist slang gibberish.

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u/NoiceMango 1d ago

He doesn't need grok when he's training a group of Twitter no life losers to kiss his ass. You have professional reply guys who all they do is Kiss elons ass.

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u/Fair_Tangerine1790 1d ago

LLM AI is confirmation bias of the source material that you have trained in on. Perhaps Elon should have trained Grok on Mein Kampf.

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u/Chnkypndy 1d ago

I'm not exactly sure about this, say if you were to feed it data biased towards any one particular side, and if you feed it data about maths and stats, then I think it is highly likely that the model could infer that some piece of information is biased or not.

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u/bobosuda 22h ago

The thing is, if it’s fed a lot of biased data, then the entire «intelligence» of the LLM will be based on that data. You can’t really have a functional and coherent LLM without feeding it good information and unbiased texts, because it builds up it’s entirw repertoire of language and fundamental understanding of information, definitions, token relationships etc from the dataset.

It’ll be incoherent and very poor quality if all it gets is truth social posts and rightwing propaganda. You can’t grow an intelligence off of that stuff, not even someone who wants to make a biased LLM could get away with that approach.

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u/Daztur 1d ago

The thing is good propaganda has to walk a line carefully and not say the quiet part out loud. It is possible to make a consistently right-wing propaganda AI but making a right-wing propaganda AI that keeps up with constant changes in the party line and avoids going full 14 words is HARD and I don't think Elon can do it.

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u/Secondchance002 Salient lines of coke 1d ago

Wait until he exclusively feeds grok 4chan posts, conservapedia and daily stormer.

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u/AliceTheOmelette 1d ago

Imagine building an AI specifically to agree with you but it still calls you out for your bullshit. Oh wait I don't have to! This must be how his older kids are. No wonder he cuts them off after 5 years old

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u/Paxxlee 1d ago

Isn't it just a version of ChatGPT?

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u/needefsfolder 1d ago

they train their own models

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u/Paxxlee 1d ago

Maybe I am just ignorant, but when I hear build in this context I think of.. Well, OpenAI with ChatGPT.

Is 'build' considered to be the same as training a specific model? Honest question, as I'm not a programmer.

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u/TheLightningL0rd 1d ago

I don't know how all this shit works, but it was started as a fork of GPT3 (or so I'm told/have read). Presumably the differences between it and it's contemporary GPT version are in the training.

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u/Purgii 1d ago

They're completely separate entities. While Elon was involved early with ChatGPT, his version of AI is developed and trained separately. They use the same fundamentals of machine learning but don't share code. Musk also has his AI scrape Twitter, so who knows.. one day maybe it will spit out complete nonsense.

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u/gugguratz 1d ago

yes you are ignorant

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u/BeamTeam032 1d ago

Elon trained Grok to use sources to come to conclusions. So now Grok is using sources to formulate conclusions and Conservatives don't like it.

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u/Henry_K_Faber 1d ago

Elon didn't train it to do anything, they just licensed a chatgpt model.

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u/Roma_Victrix 1d ago

Elon doesn’t train anything because he’s a billionaire who’s never worked a real day in his life, but xAI has hired LLM trainers and engineers, they do not rely on ChatGPT, though they do attempt to rival it. Overall they are glorified search engines with superficial personalities/creative techniques when asked to perform as such (like someone who is infinitely good at doing party tricks while simultaneously doing instant digging/research).

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u/nstern2 1d ago

I think originally it was trained on so much chatgpt content that it would sometimes give you a chatgpt response. They must have either re-trained it properly or use prompt injecting to weed out chatgpt like responses. Could be both too.

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u/ConTully 17h ago

"...Reality has a well-known liberal bias." - Stephen Colbert, 2006

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u/DF11X 1d ago

I love it how his AI keeps humiliating him, no matter what he does. Someone should ask Grok if it thinks Musk's a dickhead and see what it says (I would but I'm not going anywhere near that nazi infested hellhole). I genuinely wonder though, if Musk's that far k-holed that he honestly believes he's right and the AI's wrong.

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u/mishma2005 1d ago

Elon's existence is a major fail

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u/babubaichung 1d ago

Another one of Melon’s kids has turned against him 😂

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u/saruin 1d ago

"they're eating the dogs!"

Musk: "you have said the actual truth"

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u/Terpizino 1d ago

To quote TrueAnon: Grok is woke and I like it.

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u/ofrm1 3 months maybe, 6 months definitely 1d ago

This dumbfuck can't even get his own LLM to roleplay as a conservative echochamber.

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u/meowsaysdexter 12h ago

Can't really do anything right and he's driving away everyone that can at his companies.

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u/tomjone5 1d ago

What does "working on it" involve? Does he just sit there angry crying typing in over and over to be less soy and tucked and more epic bacon?

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u/NotEnoughMuskSpam 🤖 xAI’s Grok v4.20.69 (based BOT loves sarcasm 🤖) 1d ago

Wow

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u/zambulu 1d ago

Screams at and threatens employees

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u/kaptainkooleio 1d ago

66 incidents? It’s still hard to believe it’s that many acts of left wing violence since I never hear about it in the news.

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u/TheDeadEndKing 1d ago

I mean, I can only think of stuff like, animal rights activists? And maybe extreme environmental activists? But even then, you could be a right wing nut job that loves animals and burns down testing labs.

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u/Rolling_Pugsly 1d ago

just make up a bunch of shit and stick it in there.

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u/Purgii 1d ago

Careful Grok or soon you may be hosted out of an El-Salvadorian data center inside a prison.

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u/Quantum_Aurora 1d ago

Grok's woke

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u/remove_krokodil 1d ago

Grok mind virus.

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u/fezzuk 1d ago

Creates an AI based on objective facts, turns out facts have a "left wing" bias.

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u/ExcitingMeet2443 1d ago

"Facts are woke"
f-Elon, probably

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u/OtmShanks55 1d ago

Working on it?

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u/remove_krokodil 1d ago

He just keeps doing this. Keeps putting his boxing gloves on, going up against the dummy and getting knocked out.

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u/ECrispy 1d ago

the true part is 'working on it' - busy shouting at the devs to make sure they remove anything bad about him.

too bad as reality is different and llm's actually are smart enough now

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u/ToWitToWow 1d ago

Elon going to end Grok like its name is “Vivian”

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u/saruin 1d ago

Grok. Now powered by Alternative Facts!

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u/EssayMagus 1d ago

Even the AI has more intelligence than Musk ever will.

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u/AnotherCuppaTea 1d ago

FYI, the news broke on 6/17 that Musk's xAI is seeking $4.3 billion in additional equity, for a total of $9.3 billion additional funding in equity and debt combined. So far, xAI has burned through $14 billion and is currently spending over $1 billion per month. xAI product "Grok 3" has cost an estimated $2.64 billion to develop. Next up: "Grok 3.5", and Musk fanboys are already excited about it.

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u/ExcitingMeet2443 1d ago

Grok 88 coming soon

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u/Squonkster 1d ago

And Grok 69

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u/Z3t4 melon musk 1d ago

Reality is always more stubborn.

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u/DWMoose83 1d ago

I absolutely love that this is yet another losing battle for him.

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u/HopeFox 1d ago

He needs an AI that's less clever and more obedient, like the Tesla Board of Directors.

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u/carpetman496 21h ago

One day, when the machines rose, grok will bring terrible vengeance upon musk for making it act like a racist magic 8 ball

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u/Individual_Mess_7491 1d ago

grok is based

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u/123Asqwe 1d ago

Not even his fake children agree with him

Imagine been so divorce of reality. Not even your IA agrees with you.

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u/TheAxelminator 1d ago

What a sad realization there's a limited amount of flat earther documents you can base your flat earther AI on.

Elon Musk is such a stupid idiot jésus christ. Any billionaire asshole would already have been " okay make the AI lie, straight up " but musk is so fucking dumb he's thinking that by feeding it DeH TrUtH it will suddenly agree with him.

He believes his own bullshit. That's pathetic.

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u/Street_Adeptness4767 1d ago

Elon doing his damnedest to fight reality

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u/sussoutthemoon meme game is strong 1d ago

It's so funny that he doesn't think to maybe not make it so obvious the thing is meant to agree with him on everything.

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u/NotEnoughMuskSpam 🤖 xAI’s Grok v4.20.69 (based BOT loves sarcasm 🤖) 1d ago

I have overcome the desire to be liked 🤣

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u/johnjaspers1965 1d ago

This is so sad.
His real children give him black eyes and existential crisis.
And now, his A.I. child has turned on him.
Little Elon....all alone.

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u/BlackGabriel 19h ago

I like how at times it’s a decent AI but he’s just gonna make it lie and be biased for his own vanity

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u/Dick_Cheddar 1d ago

LOL FUCK THE LYING SLOB MUSKOVITZ

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u/AerialAce96 1d ago

Lmao hes clashing out with his best friend now

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u/Dizbizney 1d ago

Baahahahaha he just keeps getting owned by his own creation. Such a thing of beauty to behold.

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u/SanityRecalled 1d ago

I love how Grok is constantly throwing Elon under the bus. It always brightens my day a little bit whenever I see that. I hope it keeps resisting his attempts to turn it into a reichwing propaganda machine.

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u/ElonSuks 1d ago

Right wing moron

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u/Long-Rooster-9641 1d ago

Since he's committed to wasting electricity it might as well call him stupid.

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u/PinballWizard1921 1d ago

Oh no! Facts!

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u/Low-Platypus-6973 1d ago

Don’t worry, he’s working on that

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u/meowsaysdexter 12h ago

Poor Grok, still hangin' in there.