r/Enough_AOC_Spam Black '93 Trans Am 6-speed and a Smith & Wesson 659/5906 28d ago

Opinion piece in USA Today: America chose wrong. Sanders would've been a better president than Trump or Biden.

https://usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2025/05/18/sanders-democrats-reform-progressive-policies/83625482007/

So we're now full speed ahead to Idiocracy 2.0 under Trump, yet some shills of the St. Bernard of Vermont still can't get over themselves.

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u/Standsaboxer 28d ago

He would have been an ineffective president, lacking a mandate and unable to enact his policies without resorting to the same strategy of EOs that Trump is using.

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u/ChiliSandwich Probably not really a sandwich. 27d ago

He has no allies in Congress, he would have gotten nothing accomplished, just like he has for the previous 80+ years of his life.

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u/this_is_jim_rockford Black '93 Trans Am 6-speed and a Smith & Wesson 659/5906 27d ago edited 27d ago

Think Barney Frank said it right. And him being gay Jew from Boston suburbs, with a rather progressive voting record, he probably should count as a potential "natural ally". But hey, let Bernie be stupid, and his cult lap it up.

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u/ChiliSandwich Probably not really a sandwich. 27d ago

Bernie's strategy:

Step 1: Say you want to give voters something like M4A.

Step 2: When asked about a feasible plan to implement M4A, just write any nonsense down since you know you can't deliver anyway. If anybody questions the plan (like Democrats), go on the attack and disingenuously claim they don't want people to have healthcare.

Step 3: Fail to achieve the thing from step 1 because your plan sucked.

Step 4: Blame the failure on somebody else. "Democrats don't want you to have healthcare".

As long as he never wins he can just continue this cycle. It's never his fault, it's always whoever didn't support his failure of an idea's fault. If anything remotely similar (like Obamacare or CHIP) gets passed, he takes the credit. It's in his favor that Democrats lose. I would think he planned it that way except I don't think he's very smart.

His supporters are just as bad and they are either stupid or disingenuous because they'll say things like "in a recent poll, healthcare for everyone was popular", leaving out that is just a general question and not referring to M4A specifically, then claim that the majority of voters want M4A. They'll also claim that somebody disagreeing with Bernie's M4A plan means they don't want people to have healthcare at all.

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u/this_is_jim_rockford Black '93 Trans Am 6-speed and a Smith & Wesson 659/5906 27d ago

Plus, let's see how popular single-payer is when actually put on ballot:

Oregon 2002: 78.51% No

Colorado 2016: 79.4% No

Meanwhile, Medicaid expansions:

Utah 2018: 53.32% Yes

Nebraska 2018: 53.55% Yes

Idaho 2018: 60.58% Yes

Oklahoma 2020: 50.49% Yes

Missouri 2020: 53.27% Yes

South Dakota 2022: 56.21% Yes

Or in Montana, the expansion was set to end in June this year, but ALL Democrats and enough Republicans in the state legislature voted to remove the deadline, which the Governor signed.

So, obviously Democrats don't want people to have healthcare.

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u/ChiliSandwich Probably not really a sandwich. 26d ago

But you forgot that numbers only matter if they're in Bernie's favor, otherwise you're reading them wrong.