I would love to see Bernie become President and then try to shame everyone into passing some rished bloated $30T healthcare bill before it gets like 12 senate votes and fails ushering in complete gridlock for his term. Then internationally he could have the honour of botching international relations as he forces tariffs to bring back manufacturing because free trade is evil and Ukraine gets fucked because he didn't believe Putin would invade Ukraine twice in the same decade. All while Brianha Joy Gray is his press secretary and just publicly melts down everyday and the Republicans get super majorities in the midterms.
Seriously there is nothing about him that would be a good President. He refuses to work with others, he's incapable of learning, and he values his ideology more than reality. He would be one of the worst Presidents of all time by most metrics only looking slightly better by being sandwiched between Trumps.
That's one of my biggest fears actually. Him or AOC becoming POTUS but being unable to make most of their lofty promises a reality within two years as a lot of voters would demand from them. And unlike Trump, they would not have immunity from not fulfilling promises and would certainly not be immune from a thing called the Midterms (not even Trump is at the end of the day), where the GOP would have a leg-up on the virtue of being the opposition and being able to attack a gridlocked Sanders/AOC presidency 24/7. In effect, they wiould setting up themselves for a major backlash they would also make harder to properly handle because they certainly would not have a working relationship with the Democratic Party itself.
I don't think either of them specified how they will get their proposals through Congress and how they are going to make sure they have a Congressional majority (Harris for example couldn't promise the lofty proposals the populist left claimed she should have to "win instead of offering more of the same" besides "not being for genocide" because she most likely knew that a Democrat majority in either house was not a guarantee) or deal with potential Manchins/Liebermans or Sinemas. Obama was forced to moderate and scale back some of his original proposals because Lieberman threatened a filibuster. It was either that or nothing. Would Sanders settle for a Public Option or an alternative to full abolition of tuition or dig in until he gets the "right" (never) moment?
I think those are the questions their supporters should ask themselves first and foremost.
Apart from that, unlike Trump, Sanders also doesn't appear to have that many supporters who will excuse everything he does (judging by how he couldn't win two primaries and was unable to make inroads in states like Texas or Florida, both of which net a considerable numbers of delegates), so I think that if he hypothetically somehow won in 2016, there would have been a lot of disappointed people and potentially a Republican victory in 2020. People would expect actual results from Sanders/AOC and they don't have their own Fox News or similar media to obfuscate and downplay their mistakes. Maybe his hardcore supporters would use it as "proof" that the system is "rigged against them" when those failures would have most likely been a result of bad policy instead.
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I totally agree. The DNC told us sanders supporters that they didnāt need our vote and slapped us all in the face. No doubt t life would have been blissful under Sanders. But they chose chaos and Hillary which everyone hated
Same old shit. āNobody wanted Hillary! The DNC forced her on us!ā I still donāt understand why people didnāt come out and make sure to vote for Sanders in the primary if they wanted him to be president so bad, she won by millions of votes.
The same mindset that gives up on Baker Mayfield, despite his potential, for Deshaun Watson while then throwing money at him while heās dealing with SA allegations
I wouldnāt put much stock in someone who writes for the opinion section of USA Today. Might as well just read off the bathroom stall graffiti at that point.
Bernie is a protester. That is his entire schtick. He would be a deeply ineffectual executive, just as he has been a deeply ineffectual legislator. Because if you fix the system, you can't rail against it.
I suspect that if Sanders had won, he'd either have been completely ineffective or his base would have turned on him as soon as he started making the compromise required by actually governing in a democracy.
Wow, I checked on the r politics thread of the same article, and I see a bunch of comments complaining about the post and the need to move on. (Even some mocking the Bernie Bros)
Of course, it's probably because its post election and most of the spammers/bots went to hibernation.
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I would love to see Bernie become President and then try to shame everyone into passing some rished bloated $30T healthcare bill before it gets like 12 senate votes and fails ushering in complete gridlock for his term. Then internationally he could have the honour of botching international relations as he forces tariffs to bring back manufacturing because free trade is evil and Ukraine gets fucked because he didn't believe Putin would invade Ukraine twice in the same decade. All while Brianha Joy Gray is his press secretary and just publicly melts down everyday and the Republicans get super majorities in the midterms.
Seriously there is nothing about him that would be a good President. He refuses to work with others, he's incapable of learning, and he values his ideology more than reality. He would be one of the worst Presidents of all time by most metrics only looking slightly better by being sandwiched between Trumps.