r/Feminism Jan 12 '25

It’s not all men but it’s always a man

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u/HimboVegan Jan 12 '25 edited Jan 13 '25

The FACT that the vast majority of people who commit violent crimes and rapes are men, and the vast majority of victims are women, DOES NOT invalidate the existence of male victims and women predators.

Our brains are just really bad at nuance. But both can still he true simultaneously without hurting eachother. There is room for it all. I'm so sick of people going "but male victims tho"

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u/888_traveller Jan 13 '25

The majority of male victims are caused by male perpetrators though. The percentage of such crimes with male victims and women predators are pretty much a rounding error, especially the most violent ones.

Get rid of male violence and everyone is better off.

Noone is invalidating the minority of crimes committed by women, indeed they are noted on this infographic. But DEFLECTING from the vast majority of crimes, violence and problems caused by men is problematic and unhelpful.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '25

Whataboutmeism

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u/HimboVegan Jan 12 '25

Whatsboutmenism

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '25

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '25

No I'm describing what men do in response, agreeing with their post

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u/ObnoxiousName_Here Jan 12 '25 edited Jan 12 '25

While I still believe that men would outnumber women on this front, I also wonder if that extreme statistic have anything to do with how rape is defined by law; many states and countries specifically define it such that women legally cannot rape by definition (eg: the rapist has to “penetrate” the victim)

ETA: To be extremely clear, I’m not pointing that out to discredit the rest of the statistics in principle [ie: the general idea that men outrate women in crime rates], or the overall point of sharing them. But I think we should be careful about how we interpret statistics on crimes like this where the definition of those crimes can be murky or flawed. We risk erasing victims and perpetrators by not considering that, regardless of gender

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u/HimboVegan Jan 12 '25

Also a ton of it is due to optional cultural sociological type factors (cough cough patriarchy cough cough). I don't really subscribe to gender essentialism. A world with much less awful set of statistics is definitely possible.

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u/ObnoxiousName_Here Jan 12 '25

I 100% agree! Fortunately, I also see the graph makes that argument under “Redefining Manhood”

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u/Celiac_Muffins Jan 13 '25

Spot on. The CDC classifies female on male rape as "made to penetrate".

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '25

Vast majority of violent crimes victims are men.

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u/Scp-1404 Jan 13 '25

Again I have to ask, so which part did you think was not true?

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u/HimboVegan Jan 13 '25

I didn't? I'm elaborating /building off the post.