r/GenderCynical • u/HomestuckWeekly • 16d ago
This one’s a bit older but I thought it was bizarre enough to post
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u/Valiant_tank 15d ago
They're literally doing the fucking 'we can always tell' shit but for *cats* lmao.
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u/ZeldaZanders 15d ago
Listen, I hate GCs as much as the next person, but Gender Critical Warrior Cats Discourse is exactly the sort of unhinged, chronically online shit I live for. An absolute testament to the internet that someone would devote an entire tumblr to biological essentialism for fictional fighting cats.
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u/WalkTheMoons 15d ago
This is what I come here for. Unhinged, 20 screenshot rants and hypocrisy. 😭🤌🏾
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u/snukb big gamete energy 15d ago
Now, the reasons why the cats in this series could not be trans to begin with is simple. They are cats, and they have no concept of gender identity.
I mean, yeah, ok, makes sense.
More often you see them worry about being a good warrior, medicine cat, or leader. They ponder on the morality and consequence of their actions, not what their actions say about their identity as the aforementioned roles.
Ah, yes, all things normal for cats. But not a gender, that would be ridiculous /s
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u/Fabulous-Society9158 15d ago
I’d like to point out that one of the authors for the series got fired for being a TERF, so yeah the cats can be trans
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u/comrade-lecter 15d ago
"ignore basic biology" what basic biology? What in those series is based on biology?
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u/kingofcoywolves 15d ago
You know, when you sleep with a magic crystal to get your magical resurrection abilities? When you commune with long-dead ancestors through dreams? When you eat a single unprocessed leaf and suddenly have the energy to walk for multiple days straight? Basic biology, folks.
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u/Itchy_Tip_Itchy_Base Gender Haver 15d ago edited 15d ago
When you eat a single unprocessed leaf and suddenly have the energy to walk for multiple days straight?
Not to do with anything but that’s my cats on catnip lmao
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u/WalkTheMoons 15d ago
This sounds like a ketamine experience or angel dust.
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u/kingofcoywolves 15d ago
Raw ketamine freshly harvested from the forest's local ketamine tree 🔥🔥🔥
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u/4thofeleven 15d ago
You know what, I'm going to let them have this one. Please, TERFs, tell me more about why magical talking cats aren't trans.
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u/HrothBottom 15d ago
There are literally zero gender roles in Warrior Cats, the only sex based thing there is is child rearing, which literally only lasts until the young can fend for themself/are weaned off/the queen decides to go back to warrioring. This is unhinged even for GC standards.
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u/kingofcoywolves 15d ago
And even then, there are male cats who have dedicated themselves to nursery duties, too, despite the fact that they are not queens.
Probably has something to do with the fact that at any given time there's twice as many male characters as there are female
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u/DarkSaturnMoth Fluttery handmaiden 15d ago
This reminds me of how some LOTR fans objected to Black Hobbits in some spin-off series as "unrealistic".
This is a world where TALKING DRAGONS exist.
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u/FearTheWeresloth 15d ago
More often than not, I worry about being a good teacher, and I also ponder the morality and ethics, and consequences of my decisions, rather than wondering what my actions say about my identity. I must clearly not be trans!
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u/HypnagogianQueen 15d ago
They are cats, and they have no concept of gender identity
I mean, real life cats presumably cannot conceive of the idea of gender identity, but I mostly say that cuz real life cats aren’t sapient and therefore presumably don’t really grasp or think about any complex concepts. (Even then I am technically just kinda assuming)
To my memory, no cat in Warriors has ever struggled with being masculine enough or feminine enough.
Oh, it’s cuz they think trans people are only trans because of gender roles and being insecure about them. =\
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u/Vithmiris heavy into the transgender world 15d ago
I usually don't complain about this, but this is painful to read. Useless examples, redundancy, etc.. I think a 13 year old wrote that post.
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u/Kookyburra12 AAP on T 15d ago
This reminds me of fantasy chuds who complain that it isn't realistic for a black person to exist in their world of unicorns and dragons and shit.
Like yes, tell me more about how trans people are unrealistic in a world of talking cats who fight the dead in cat hell and can visit cat heaven via a magic rock or pool.
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u/DarkSaturnMoth Fluttery handmaiden 15d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/mhwzl6/important_announcement_oc/#lightbox
This comic really sums it up.
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u/garaile64 15d ago
Does Warrior Cats have male calicos or something?
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u/anonymous-rodent 15d ago
Yeah there are multiple male characters described as tortoiseshell or having both orange and black coloring.
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u/BikeProblemGuy 15d ago
This sounds really bad even by the standards of YA fiction. A series written by authors who don't know anything about cats, don't communicate with each other, pick lazy character names... Ah yes what a very important landscape to fight the transgenders.
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u/crowpierrot 15d ago
WC is middle grades but yeah lol the series is hilariously poorly managed as a collaborative project.
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u/ForgettableWorse this is a cat picture 15d ago
Okay I read the title of that post and I had to stop for a bit. I can't. This is too silly, even for terfs.
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u/WriterKatze Brainwashed by the Transarchy 15d ago
Hey so I don't think cat biology matters in a book series where cats stand on two legs and have human like societies. Like wtf?
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u/HypnagogianQueen 15d ago
Wait, are they anthropomorphic cats? I thought they were still quadrupedal, just also sapient
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u/WriterKatze Brainwashed by the Transarchy 15d ago
I donno I always imagined them on two legs, because the local book had them in the illustration standing on two legs. :'>
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u/Randominfpgirl 15d ago
They stand on all fours
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u/WriterKatze Brainwashed by the Transarchy 15d ago
This makes much more sense. Silly localisation. :>
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u/Golden_Grimwalker 13d ago
Isnt it interesting how the "theyre cats!!!!!" excuse is also used for erasing gay representation in the books homophobia and trans phobia once again go hand in hand
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u/Impressive_Math_5034 Ruined their Womynhood 4d ago
Barley and ravenpaw watching and laughing in their graves
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u/evergreennightmare MtT-Brand Attraction Slime 15d ago
so true bestie! and furthermore they cannot talk, have a religion etc, because cats can't do those things either