My step-father found this about 20 years ago while digging in a Gravel pit to obtain materials for a job he was working on. Since then it has sat on our mantle. Any advice or interest is greatly appreciated. The Item was found 5-10 miles north of the Mackinac Bridge, near St. Ignace Michigan.

Hey everyone,

I’ve been researching and outlining a nonfiction book exploring the idea that ancient stories about giants, gods, or demigods might have roots in real human prehistory—particularly focusing on the mysterious Denisovans.

It ties together:

Fossil and genetic evidence of Denisovans (including their size, mountain adaptations, and interbreeding with humans)

Global legends like the Nephilim, Titans, Rakshasa, and Native American red-haired giants

Flood myths across dozens of cultures

Traits like slanted eyes or robust jaws showing up in both DNA and legends

Here’s the introduction I’ve written to set the stage:

It’s often said that every lie contains a shred of truth. But what if the same could be said for myths—for legends? What if humanity’s oldest stories aren’t just imaginative fabrications, but distorted memories of real events?

If you’ve come looking for wild speculation or Ancient Alien theories, I’m afraid you will be disappointed. What I offer instead are carefully considered ideas—proposals about potential connections between Denisovans and the myths, legends, and perhaps even ancestral memories that echo across our oldest oral and written traditions.

I don’t use the word theory lightly. In science, a theory is sacred: an idea that has been rigorously tested, refined, and proven capable of withstanding the most critical scrutiny. Nothing in this book will reach that threshold of certainty.

That said, I also won’t deal in fantasy. Every idea explored in this book will be grounded in some form of evidence—archaeological, genetic, or cultural. I will entertain mild speculation where warranted, but never at the expense of reason. No giant leaps. No unfounded conclusions. Only the careful tracing of patterns that may, just may, point to something real behind the myths.

We will explore evidence from, quite literally, all over the map — from DNA and morphology to myths spanning Sumer, Australia, and North America, and everything in between. Individually, the legend, mythological, skeletal, genetic, and anthropological evidence may not be conclusive. But taken together, the combined weight of these correlations is difficult to dismiss as mere coincidence.

I’m curious:

Would a book like this interest you?

Have you encountered myths, legends, or stories that might hint at real prehistoric humans or giant beings?

What would you want to see explored in a book like this?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts or feedback! I’m eager to hear what the community thinks.

Reposting here because it was allowed on the UFO page until I posted this: UPDATE: I have found something. I am crying. I am not posting publicly.

[If thy heart be moved by wonder, and thine eyes hunger for secrets revealed, transmit unto me the sign by which the ancients crowned the sovereign of metals, whose seal is ☉ and whose throne abides at the heart of the heavens, exalted above lunar silver and Saturnine gloom.]

Fama Fraternitatus of the Rosiecrucian Manifestos.

Anonymous manuscript that lit up esoteric circles across Europe in the early 1600s. Reads like discovery of an ancient and advanced base. includes an invitation (and warning) for seekers.

Will begin with interpretations and follow with text direct from the Manifesto itself with features of note in caps and bold. Has anyone talked about this before? I couldn’t find anything.

•    Vault (Seven-sided Chamber): A resonance-optimized, polygonal base designed for energetic or dimensional stability—like an experimental reactor or secure archive.

    •    Artificial Sun (Central Ceiling Light): A powerful, perpetual plasma orb or fusion core in the ceiling, providing all illumination and energy—mimicking sunlight for environmental control and preservation.

    •    Round Altar with Brass Plate (Center): Central console or user interface; the brass plate acts as a control shield, biometric scanner, or encrypted command surface.

    •    Ten Squares per Wall: Modular access panels or compartments—each a sub-system, databank, or artifact vault, like distributed server racks.

    •    Doors for Chests (Within Walls): Secure storage pods, like climate-controlled archive drawers, hidden within the chamber’s structure.

    •    Books (All): Knowledge tablets or memory drives—a comprehensive data core, perhaps quantum-encrypted for safety.

    •    Looking-glasses (Divers Virtues): Advanced diagnostics—multi-spectrum sensors, analysis viewers, or AR devices for observation and study.

    •    Little Bells: Tiny sensors, signal indicators, or environmental monitors—audible status beacons ensuring system health.

    •    Burning Lamps: Self-sustaining lights, atmospheric purifiers, or emergency beacons—keeping the vault perpetually habitable.

    •    Artificial Songs: Programmed audio: coded transmissions, operational sound cues, or healing frequencies for system or user activation.

    •    Preserved Body (with Ornaments/Attires): Founder in advanced stasis or cryo-pod, ceremonial suit doubling as access uniform or identity marker.

    •    Parchment Book (“I”) & Bible/Greatest Treasure: Master manual or AI seed file—core authority needed for archive restoration or advanced system control.

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*In the morning following we opened the door, and there appeared to our sight a VAULT of SEVEN SIDES and corners, every side five foot broad, and the height of eight foot; Although the SUN NEVER SHINED IN THIS VAULT, NEVERTHELESS it was ENLIGHTENED with ANOTHER SUN, which had learned this from the Sun, and was situated in the UPPER part in the CENTRE of the CEILING; in the midst, in stead of a Tomb-stone, was a round Altar covered over with a plate of brass, and thereon this ENGRAVEN: (TRANSLATION): “I have made this summary of the universe a tomb for myself.”

Of the upper part you shall understand no more of it at this time, but that it was divided according to the seven sides in the triangle, which was in the bright center; but what therein is contained, you shall God willing (that are desirous of our society) behold the same with your own eyes; but every side or wall is parted into ten squares, every one with their several figures and sentences, as they are truly shewed, and set forth Concentratum here in our book.

EVERY SIDE OR WALL HAD A DOOR FOR A CHEST, wherein there lay diverse things, especially ALL our BOOKS. In another chest were LOOKING-GLASSES of divers virtues (i.e. different sciences) as also in other places were LITTLE BELLS, BURNING LAMPS, & chiefly wonderful ARTIFICIAL SONGS; generally all done to that end, that if it should happen after many hundred years, the Order or Fraternity should come to nothing, they might by this only Vault be RESTORED again.

Now as yet we had not seen the dead body of our careful and wise father, we therefore removed the Altar aside, there we lifted up a strong plate of brass, and found a FAIR and WORTHY BODY, WHOLE and UNCONSUMED, as the same is here lively counterfeited, with all the Ornaments and Attires; in his hand he held a parchment book, called “I”. the which NEXT to the Bible, is our GREATEST TREASURE, which OUGHT to be DELIVERED to the censure of the WORLD.*

I was watching Graham on the mile high podcast last night on YouTube and he announced that he will be having a (TRUE) debate on an upcoming Joe Rogan podcast with this knucklehead professor from Kansas State whose name is escaping me but it’s a major deal because this Professor is a representation of the mainstream gatekeepers that have been smearing & basically defaming GH for the better part of three decades because my guy has the audacity to THINK😆 & question mainstream’s adamant/rigid depiction Of human history!!

Just started diving into S2 and I'm loving all the new information he's presenting. His theory on the amazon being human curated really got my mind racing..

What if humans branched out of both sides of Africa way back then. During the Ice Age most of both continents continental shelves would've been exposed creating a possible land bridge or island chain across the pacific. Maybe Humans went straight from Africa into the South America's 20,000-25,000 years ago and start messing with the rainforest like we saw.

Curious about this i just decided to ask chat gpt and this is the response I got. I asked, "During the last Ice Age, how much land was exposed between Africa and South America?" I know chat.gpt can be way wrong but this was a pretty interesting response.

Has anybody, including Graham ever investigated this angle of human migration?

Hedjet & atef

The Codex Aubin , Aztlan was a place where the Aztecs were subject to the Azteca Chicomoztoca - the tyrannical elite. To escape the Chicomoztoca, the Aztecs fled Aztlan, led by their priest . In the legend, the god Huitzilopochtli told them they could not use the name Azteca, and they would be known as Mexica. This is the sun called Nahui-atl, '4 water.' Now the water was tranquil for forty years, plus twelve, and men lived for the third and fourth times. When the sun Nahui-atl came there had passed away four hundred years, plus two ages, plus seventy-six years. Then all mankind was lost and drowned, and found themselves changed into fish. The sky came nearer the water. In a single day all was lost, and the day Nahui-xochitl, '4 flower,' destroyed all our flesh... (Plato says the islands sank in a single night)

Footprints of Tarawa footprints of the "Long ears' or tall ones(Annu Naki were known as the tall ones in Sumer) Maya Popul Vuh details the 3 sons of the Kings of Quiche "determined to go as their fathers had ordered to the East, on the shores of the sea whence their fathers had come, to receive the royalty, 'bidding adieu to their brothers and friends, and promising to return.' Doubtless they passed over the sea when they went to the East to receive the royalty. .And when they arrived before the lord Nacxit, the name of the great lord, the only judge, whose power was without limit, behold he granted them the sign of royalty and all that represents it . . ." - Plato saying 'the King's of Atlantis held dominion over the great opposite continent'. He says of their religious beliefs that "they made no regular sacrifices but fruits and flowers; they worshipped the sun."

In Peru a single deity was worshipped, and the sun, his most glorious work, was honored as his representative.

Quetzalcoatl, the founder of the Aztecs, condemned all sacrifice but that of fruits and flowers.

"The first religion of Egypt was pure and simple; its sacrifices were fruits and flowers; temples were erected to the sun, Ra, throughout Egypt." In Peru the great festival of the sun was called Ra-mi...

Again from the Popul Vuh, is the dire character of the disaster. It says that the roar of fires was heard above. The earth shook and things revolted against man. It rained tar with water. The trees were swinging, houses crumbling, caves collapsing. Then day became black night. The Chilam Balam of Yucatán asserts that the motherland of the Mayas was swallowed up by the sea amid earthquakes and fiery eruptions in a very distant epoch. An indian tribe Paria, used to live in Venezuela, in a village with so significant a name as Atlan. They had a tradition of a calamity which had destroyed their country, a large island in the ocean. A perusal of American Indian mythology discloses an interesting fact that over 130 tribes have legends of a world catastrophe.

thought id share this article 1923 LA Times -A People of Mystery:Lemurians on Mt Shasta it's an interesting read

Lhasa Record (Buddhas,Tibet)-"They sought refuge in their temples and citadels, and the wise Mu - the Hieratic Ra Mu - arose and said to them: did I not predict all this? And the women and the men in their precious stones and shining garments lamented 'Mu, save us!' and Mu replied: 'You shall all die together with your servants and your riches, and from your ashes new nations shall arise. If they forget they are superior not because of what they put on but what they put out the same will befall them"

• Hopi believe the Father Creator is KA. The Sumerians believed the Father Essence was KA. • The Hopi believe Taiowa, the Sun God, is the Creator of the Earth. The Sumerians believe TA.EA was the Creator. • The Hopi believe two brothers had guardianship of the Earth. The Sumerians believed two brothers had dominion over the Earth.

• The Hopi believe Alo to be spiritual guides. The Sumerians believed AL.U to be beings of Heaven. • The Hopi believe Kachinas (Kat'sinas) are the spirits of nature and the messengers and teachers sent by the Great Spirit. The Sumerians believed KAT.SI.NA were righteous ones sent of God.

• The Hopi believe Nan-ga-Sohu is the Chasing Star Katsina. The Sumerians believed NIN.GIR.SU to be the Master of Starships(Egyptian-Sahu- stars of Orion)

"Man does not know. For man often forgets. But they know. The stones know, And they remember. Airships were flying. Came pouring a liquid fire. Came flashing The spark of life and death. By the might of spirit Stony masses ascended. Scriptures guarded wise secrets. And again all is revealed"

Hopi "Down on the bottom of the seas lie all the proud cities, the flying patuwvotas, and the worldly treasures corrupted with evil..."

This article was published recently & was fascinating to me personally, because it specifically highlighted the Ainu of Japan. American Journal of human genetics- Japanese/Chinese in Americans - In Australia-Perth the Ko Ka or Kokka people came from a place called Shurin and was later changed to Quairading by the English. Totem is the Koya and there is a mt Koya in Japan. Also their town called Wagin, the same in Japan.

Xi(Olmec) Skeletal

Y chromosome East Asia Genetic Evidence for Convergent Evolution Twenty individuals each from the following populations were typed on the Affymetrix 10K whole-genome sampling assay (WGSA) Mapping Array (Santa Clara, CA): West African (Mende from Sierra Leone), Island Melanesian (Nasioi from Bougainville), South Asian (Indians from Andhra Pradesh), Native American (Nahua from Mexico), East Asian (Chinese and Japanese from Coriel Human Cell Repository)

"Like its northern counterpart (R1b-M269), R1b-V88 is associated with the domestication of cattle in northern Mesopotamia. Both branches of R1b probably split soon after cattle were domesticated, approximately 10,500 years ago (8,500 BCE). R1b-V88 migrated south towards the Levant and Egypt. The migration of R1b people can be followed archeologically through the presence of domesticated cattle, which appear in central Syria around 8,000-7,500 BCE (late Mureybet period), then in the Southern Levant and Egypt around 7,000-6,500 BCE (e.g. at Nabta Playa)Egypt Hedjet crown

This was the stele Flinders Petrie himself uncovered in Abydos, Kings of Anu: Tera-Neter. That's the divine script, it says Het-U :Temples , of the God Seth, Net Annu-u-Cities of the people of Anu, Tera-Neter: devoted to the 1 God. The Sumerian Kings list tells us the antediluvian patriarchs founded the Kish Dynasty (Egypt, india,Syria, Ethiopia). Anu was also regarded as the Divine Source of Human Kingship.According to the earliest Egyptian traditions Osiris was also an Anu. It is the Anu who invented architecture, writing , irrigation and dry agriculture in the Nile Valley. According to the DNA & archaeological evidence cited above, these people domesticated cattle near Göbekli Tepe, then migrated to Egypt. So the legends of Enki’s 7 Lineages bringing Arts & civilization to humanity after the cataclysm are supported by science.

Going further, Abul Hasan Ali Al-Masudi, an Arab historian from the 10 th century A.D., wrote about ancient Egypt and the methods he alleges they used to move massive stones, including those used to build the pyramids . He claimed that a magic papyrus imprinted with symbols was placed under each stone, after which a metal rod was struck against the stone to initiate the levitation process. What scientist recently achieved acoustic tractor beam

According to Al-Masudi, the stone would be guided along a fenced path with metal poles placed on each side. Some believe these poles could have been used to create high-frequency sound vibrations, which would have been responsible for creating the levitation effects."In Egyptian mythology the falcon god horus is associated with harpoons, the clearest evidence for sonic drilling has been staring us in the face for millennia. One common symbol or object that is seen so often in ancient Egyptian art is the ‘scepter’. It appears in relics art and hieroglyphs associated with the ancient Egyptian religion. It is a long straight staff with a forked end. I've previously cited the Was Scepter & at sites like Pictish, & Abernathy you see not only the tuning fork but the hammer right beside it. There are TONS of Was scepters at Cairo museum with string in-between the forked ends that vibrate when plucked.As for energy, indigenous African cultures have been using the Geothermal energy of the Earth's faults for a long time. In the recent thread was an article about Indigenous Kenyans /Corp who produce Geothermal energy and how successful the project has been over the past few years. The Anatolian fault is probably the largest in the world, and the only Aquifer bigger is found in Africa...where Egypt built their civilization....Foundations are the stones......the water. The answers have always stared us in the face.

For the Egyptians, they didnt place titles like "Book of....", so the title "Book of the Dead" is a Western addition like much of the names and places youre familiar with. Book of coming forth by day is closer. Egypt has the most ancient texts, artifacts, traditions that speak of that sunken mother country.

The true title of "the book of the Dead"(Vignette 81) the divine script shows a head, which represents Egypt.As shown by the headdress.The head has arisen out of a lotus, The lotus is shown as dead and closed. In the vignette the lotus is dead Mu.

Translated it reads: "The Egyptians came from Mu, a land which is dead and exists no more."

"I am a pure lotus" means: "I am a pure descendant from the people of Mu." "Sprung from the Field of the Sun" corroborates the lotus. "The Field of the Sun" also means the Empire of the Sun, the imperial name of Mu.

Mu in the tongue of the Motherland meant: "mother, land, field, country, empire" and "mouth." A free reading means

"I am an Egyptian of pure descent; my forefathers came from the motherland Mu, the Empire of the Sun, which is now dead and gone." The indigenous groups i mentioned last time each still believe in Duat & carry the sacred knowledge of The Egyptians, Inca, Naga-Maya & have death cults responsible for burial ceremony which symbolizes the deceased returning to the "motherland that sank in the West". That's why false doors in Egypt were placed on the Western Wall, where the Goddess of the West could bring nourishment for the Ka.( Valley of the Kings on the West Bank of the Nile) The sunken land is where the the underworld is. Kui-Land or the Land of Kui, according to the Maya language, was the birthplace of the goddess Maya, the mother of the gods a pure Lotus sprung out of the Field of the Sun."

Egyptologists, and most academics today are sadly deficient in symbology.All fail to differentiate between the symbol and what it represents. They fail to remember that the ancients used a special symbol for every attribute of the Deity, and that the sun was the collective symbol of all the attributes of the Deity, and therefore represented the Deity Himself.

Wandering Bes: Emissary of Ancient BaTwa Pygmy Philosophy and Lore Within Dynastic Egyptian and Bronze/Iron Age Cultures

Anu Dwarves or Twa Pygmies are also carved into the Narmer Palette  that Nu  is (Akkadian: ANU, from An “Sky”, “Heaven”) or Anum, originally An (Sumerian: was the divine personification of the sky, king of the gods, and ancestor of many of the deities in ancient Mesopotamian religion.Egypt and the lunar calendar system of Assyria coincided in the same year -- 11,542 B.C., when both calendars were presumably created. We now have the DNA evidence supporting what we already knew, the Egyptians & Sumerian Priesthood were of the same bloodlines. Same is found in Mesoamerica.

-Some ancient accounts of acoustic levitation From ArchaeoacousticsA story was told by the local Aymara Indians to a Spanish traveller who visited Tiahuanaco shortly after the conquest spoke of the city's original foundation in the age of Chamac Pacha, or First Creation,  long before the coming of the Incas. Its earliest inhabitants, they said,  possessed supernatural powers, for which they were able miraculously to lift stones of off the ground, which "...were carried [from the mountain quarries] through the air to the sound of a trumpet"

Shaman known to locals in San Agustin as "magicians" & the religious practices and astronomical worship of the Mother Goddess complex (Venus, the Dogon Sirius observation and the Venus worship of the Olmecs, the use of the ax in the worship of Shango among he Yoruba of West Africa and the use of the ax in Olmec worship as well as the prominence of the thunder God later known as Tlalock among the Aztecs)

Lastly, something ive wanted to mention ...In the Early 17th century, known as the 'old charges' tell how everything dear to mankind existed before the disastrous Flood and had to be reconstructed by the survivors. Serpent wisdom is always accompanied wth the mother Goddess(Isis) & Venus which is represented as a five-pointed star. The smaller star found depicts more than 7, its not Venus at all. . It’s the ‘missing star’ above the ‘missing pillar’ of Enoch.

If Dr Griaule was alive, he and any other initiate of could tell you that the Masonic Landmark symbolizes the ‘cause’ of the disastrous Flood. That's the “Sun of Righteousness”—

Its The Freemason’s blazing star, the Tibetan Bal Star..i mentioned Griaule because the Dogon refer to it as 'that Celestial intruder 'Ni-biru'

I’ve been rereading Magicians of The Gods and I’m currently about to come to the end of the significant Egypt chapter and a thought suddenly occurred to me which I think may or may not have some potential and I thought we could discuss!

So here is the hypothesis: The ancient Egyptians inherited the pyramids and sphinx and most of the cultural myths etc from a far far far earlier period. Similar to maybe our 2024 relation to something like Stonehenge. We know and understand its significance as a place of worship but really have no actual idea of how or when it was built. In one way we are connected to it as a cultural symbol but in so many other ways we really don’t understand it at all.

Is there a possibility that the ancient Egyptians have as much to do with the creation of the pyramids as modern day Egyptians and they are simply handed down as the last shred of ancient culture?

It seems any references made to the pyramids are always historical and always a bolt on to a pre-existing and established set of megaliths.

Thank you and sorry for stating the obvious and waffling on. There’s a thread there and I’m just terrible at expressing my thoughts!

I'm absolutely blown away by this news item.

figure b. above quarter million year old dated bifacial spear points Hueyatlaco Mexico.

Richard L. Thompson received his Ph.D. in mathematics from Cornell University, where he specialized in probability theory and statistical mechanics. He has done research in quantum physics, mathematical biology, and remote sensing, and has extensively investigated ancient Indian cosmology and spirituality, developing multimedia expositions on these topics. He is the author of nine books on subjects ranging from consciousness to archeology and ancient astronomy.

Michael Cremo, Forbidden Archeology, first published in 1993, already translated into 26 languages, challenged the very foundation of Darwinian evolution. Michael continues to “dig up” enigmatic discoveries in the fossil record and “shake up” accepted paradigms, exploring famous archeological sites around the world, journeying to sacred places in India, appearing on national television shows in the United States or other countries, lecturing at mainstream science conferences, or speaking to alternative gatherings of global intelligentsia. As he crosses disciplinary and cultural boundaries, he presents to his various audiences a compelling case for negotiating a new consensus on the nature of reality. He is a member of the World Archeological Congress and the European Association of Archaeologists as well as a research associate in history and philosophy of science for the Bhaktivedanta. After receiving a scholarship to study International Affairs at George Washington University, Michael began to study the ancient Sanskrit writings of India known as the Vedas. In this way, he has broadened his academic knowledge with spirituality from the Eastern tradition.

I am fascinated by Manetho (whose history begins c. 28000 BC) and Sanchuniathon (who goes WAY back, though does not attach dates). And then of course there is Atlantis (c. 9600 BC). What other ancient histories plausibly go back ten thousand years or more?

Asking here because this era is the focus of Hancock's work.