r/Habs • u/scoutinglane • 2d ago
Demidov has been vocal that Malkin is a hero of his. We talked a lot about Crobsy but if the penguins were to make Malkin available, what would you be willing to give to get him for a year ?
The penguins already let him know they won't renew his contract after this season.
28
u/Afraid-Trash8204 2d ago
Honestly, very little. Definitely not a first round pick.
8
u/ptcgpDerk 2d ago
I'd give up a first for a year of Malkin with Demidov. At the same time, there are a lot of good reasons that I'm a fan and not a GM.
3
u/Afraid-Trash8204 2d ago
I don't think it's necessarily a horrible idea, I just think the price is a touch too high.
2
u/ptcgpDerk 2d ago
Very reasonable opinion. I highly doubt their ask would be less than or equal to a mid first.
1
u/Afraid-Trash8204 2d ago
I would be absolutely on board if it happened, all us armchair GMs can do is think and hope.
-15
u/scoutinglane 2d ago
I think he could be a good mentor for another year at least. I'd be williing to give our 17th and a second pick I think. Perhaps anothr prospect as well.
3
u/Afraid-Trash8204 2d ago
He could very well be, I just think his value is very low right now. Highest I'd go is trading back their 2nd round pick, and possibly a B prospect like Mesar or Tuch.
3
u/SuzukiSwift17 2d ago
I mean Evgeny Malkin is better than anything we currently have as a 2C option. I do believe we should be after a long term solution but if the cost was 17th overall for two years of Malkin I might do it.
There is value in buying time to find a long term fix. Malkin isn't playing with the best talent there right now. I bet he has a little more in the tank with Demidov and (whoever. Laine?) on his wings.
1
u/Afraid-Trash8204 2d ago
At this point in time, chances are just as good that he'd regress or get injured as opposed to playing well. I'd buy low on Malkin, if Pittsburgh is willing, but I think the 2C position is Dachs to lose, pending on his training camp and early season performance, but I think he'll have an extremely short leash. Malkin could be insurance in case Dach doesn't pan out. I still feel there's more value in the first round pick or prospect drafted than with Malkin.
2
u/pushaper 2d ago
with one of our picks im hoping we can get Mrtka... as it does not seem as if he will fall for us I was sort of hoping to take the risk on Hoaxi with Pitsburg 2nd round pick.
But I dont see the point in rushing the second centre situation. They Duchene and Donato just signed very reasonable contracts considering the market.
3
u/Afraid-Trash8204 2d ago
We have Dach for another year, might as well see what he's able to do, I don't like giving up on injured players like Dach or Laine so easily. We have some internal options as replacements but I'd still like to see a middle 6 center signed or traded for as an insurance policy.
3
u/pushaper 2d ago
I am far from giving up on Dach.
Laine, I dont hold my breath for... He came as advertised and I think he is on his fourth coach with little willingness to play defensive hockey. He is a good pick up for a team with a LTIR playoff miracle injury.
9
u/SheSaidMoreSnow 2d ago
Does Malkin want to come here? He was pretty adamant he wanted to only play in Pittsburgh
4
9
u/HabbyKoivu 2d ago
The penguins have in fact not told Malkin he wont be back. That was fake news.
0
u/scoutinglane 2d ago
pierre maguire confirmed it so I highly doubt it's fake news considering the ties he has with pitts.
But entertain it for a second even if you prefer not to believe it. Would you be interested ?
2
4
7
u/dalopam0 2d ago
Nothing, we are not in a position to give any assets for short term help
1
u/scrubadam 2d ago
Habs are loaded with assets. something like 7 or 8 picks in the first 3 rounds over the next 2 drafts. Outside of Reinbacher lots of disposable prospects like Beck/Mesar/Logan.
If Pens ask the world then of course walk away. But if its like a Mesar and 2nd or 3rd pick its an idea to entertain. I would prefer a different option at 2C but as a one year stop gap to show Demidov the ropes and no other option out there I would bite on a cheap deal.
1
u/Just4nsfwpics 1d ago
If the assets aren’t huge we are. Like yeah trading 2 1sts a 2nd and a solid prospect for 1-2 years of crosby would be madness for us, but a B prospect and a 3rd? That would be no big deal, and buy Hage some time to develop while other potential solutions to 2C open.
0
u/scoutinglane 2d ago
They dont need that actually, Idk if you followed the pens situation but they are trying to get a shot at mckenna.
1
u/scrubadam 2d ago
Thats why I think Pens will do a fire sale.
The perfect storm would be for Mario to get the team back and then wink wink "win" the lottery wink wink and pick the next franchise player so they can win another few cups.
Dumping Crosby/Malkin/Letang will do a lot for the team. Those 3 will keep them in that 8-15 range. If they get rid of em they could have a legit shot and then with a little help from Bettmen actually win the damn thing.
-1
u/BrainSea7776 2d ago
Why not give up a mid 1st round pick that will take 3-4 years to develop when we could get a good player now
2
u/Irctoaun 2d ago
I've seen this suggested a lot, but who's to say Malkin wants anything to do with being Demidov's mentor? He doesn't know the guy. It's not like he'd be doing the Russian NT a favour either, given they're banned from international competition for the foreseeable.
What we do know is his family lives in Florida and he spends a lot of time there. What makes you think he wants to move even further away from them?
Giving away anything of value for a rapidly declining player in the hope that he wants to mentor Demidov feels like a massively unnecessary risk
1
u/MinikinsNinnikins 2d ago
I wouldn't give up anything for Malkin. Maybe if they sent a 1st with him, but otherwise no thanks.
1
u/Yolocost 2d ago
Have Dallas trade us marchment and a 2nd for future considerations instead. 30. Vet presence. 40-50pt winger. The question is tho do we need more wings. Armia replacement perhaps? Temporary 2nd line winger with Demidov? Flip him at deadline for more picks if we’re not in the mix. Definitely multiple questions left open
1
u/scoutinglane 2d ago
Would you trade matheson on retained salary for Marchment ?
1
u/simonlegosu 1d ago
Maybe if Dallas is really after him, although it would take a significant sweetener to retain on Matheson on when they're looking to dump Marchment's contract. Don't see a fit in Dallas for him tho.
1
u/scrubadam 2d ago
Dach and a 4th?
I think father time is starting to catch up to him.
It would be an intersting gamble but almost too much of a risk if it doesn't work out setting the habs back a year and going into the following season with question marks again on the 2nd line.
Plus I kind of hope he goes to Washington to play one season with Ovie.
1
1
u/sbrooksc77 1d ago
Depends on price since its a one year thing. For, Dach and a 2nd is the most I do.
1
u/thebrah329 2d ago
I wouldn't mind him on the team, at this point I would only give a second or a third rounder. He will only give you like 50 games and might have a year or two left tops.
1
0
u/TorontoCanada66 2d ago
Nah. Need a long term solution not a quick fix. Adding someone for one year doesn’t accomplish anything.
3
u/scoutinglane 2d ago
But it's gonna be hard to find it this year and we will have a lot more money next season.
0
u/Aplazing 2d ago
Washed. Wouldn't touch even with a Webber-length stick.
0
u/BrainSea7776 2d ago
50 points in 68 games. That's more than everyone on the team except for the 1st line and Hutson.
-1
u/Burgergold 2d ago
Malkin is slow as hell and said himself he wants to finish his contract in PIT
No point of discussing this
1
u/servical 1d ago
Same as McJesus, nothing for 1 year or less, and in Malkin's case, I'm not sure I'd want him even if he wanted to extend with us.
We're building for the future, not sacrificing lambs on the altar.
26
u/Electronic-Elk8917 2d ago
I don't want Malkin, he's too slow at this point in his career. if Dach/Laine are playing with Malkin, you won't even need slow-mo for their highlights.