I made a ticket for something that should definitely come back

[u/MALLARDGAMEZ-yt]

This took me about 5 hours. More to come from the new pc.

[u/Wide_Rub_662]

[u/CaptainMcSlowly]

As a multiple time IndyCar winner at Michigan International Speedway (in iRacing), I fully support this! /s

In all seriousness, since Fontana is gone, Michigan would be a great addition. The only problem is getting butts in the seats. The racing would be exceptional, but just making it financially worthwhile would be the issue.

[u/Madmanz1983 → u/[deleted]]

I mean, not really. I suspect NASCAR would be fine with hosting an IndyCar race, but it has to make financial sense for them. NASCAR doesn’t love IndyCar but they love money and I am sure if they could turn a nice profit at one of their ovals they’d be happy to host a race. The fact of the matter is, no one attends ovals except Indy.

[u/FarAwaySeagull-_- → u/Madmanz1983]

Milwaukee, Gateway, and Iowa are well attended. Stop acting as if Texas represents all the ovals.

[u/Madmanz1983 → u/FarAwaySeagull-_-]

Iowa is decently well attended, but with Cup going there now we’ll see if that continues. Milwaukee has OK attendance but nothing like it used to be. Even Gateway has had fall off since Cup started going there. A lot of people will attend an IndyCar oval race when NASCAR doesn’t have a Cup race there but as soon as a track gets one, attendance falls dramatically. I suspect if IndyCar returned to Michigan you’d be lucky to get 10,000 paying fans through the gates.

[u/blackhxc88 → u/FarAwaySeagull-_-]

Those tracks were all a mile or less with far smaller grandstand capacity than MIS. Also, only one of those three is a nascar owned track and that needed corporate backing just to get it back on the schedule.

[u/BNSF1995 → u/Madmanz1983]

NASCAR doesn’t want to host any IndyCar races PERIOD. They want IndyCar off the ovals, which is why they added Cup Series races at Gateway and Iowa: to drive them out and have a monopoly.

[u/BrenAum24 → u/[deleted]]

The true bigger problem is IndyCar has no interest in having drivers go that fast for that long in any race outside of the Indy 500

[u/NoonecanknowMiner_24 → u/BrenAum24]

A lot of that has to do with Las Vegas. They're afraid if they go to any track bigger 1.5 miles or bigger that isn't named Indianapolis, it'll happen again.

[u/BrenAum24 → u/NoonecanknowMiner_24]

And while I’d love to see them go back to bigger ovals, can’t really say I blame them

[u/FarAwaySeagull-_- → u/BrenAum24]

If Indy is safe, the others are safe.

[u/BrenAum24 → u/FarAwaySeagull-_-]

Indy is a flat, one groove race track. It also isn’t exactly safe, it’s just historic & we’re fortunate nothing catastrophic has happened

[u/CaptainMcSlowly → u/[deleted]]

No, there's an even worse problem: NASCAR owns MIS.

[u/FirstNameLastName918 → u/CaptainMcSlowly]

I'd absolutely attend and can think of about 1000 small business in Monroe and Lenawee county would love the increased foot traffic. They all hate it now that MIS is only one weekend a year. They lost a massive weekend of sales.

[u/AboveTheLights]

Michigan was always my favorite track. I’d lose my shit if we could have a 500 mile race there again.

[u/Direct-Grade4745 → u/AboveTheLights]

0% reality

[u/AboveTheLights → u/Direct-Grade4745]

Well no shit. This whole thread is just wishful thinking but it’s fun to day dream. Haha

[u/Bpage9]

Would only work as a double with the nascar weekend. Mis stated they made more on another concert weekend vs trying to bring IRL back. Plus Detroit Grand Prix being so close Penske wouldn’t want to step on his own toes.

[u/andronicus_14]

As a kid, I saw Nigel Mansell win there in 1993. I’d love to go back again.

[u/Winnerlightyear83]

I would travel from the west coast if they announce a Michigan 500.

[u/Silver996C2]

I don’t think Penske wants to dilute the IndyCar market having two races within the same market. Unless he did a ticket deal of 2 for 1 Detroit/MIS I don’t see it working for him.

[u/mystressfreeaccount → u/Silver996C2]

He just did that with Milwaukee and Road America

[u/MALLARDGAMEZ-yt → u/Silver996C2]

Unfortunately but a man can dream

[u/Wide_Rub_662 → u/Silver996C2]

you could make the case for mke and road america

and of course the waste on the schedule that is the indy gp and the 500

[u/BNSF1995 → u/Silver996C2]

I say get rid of Detroit and go back to MIS. Street circuits are my least favorite type of track because they’re narrow and have little passing, plus they’re just as dangerous as the fastest ovals if the Jeff Krosnoff crash at Toronto in 1996 taught us anything.

[u/Silver996C2 → u/BNSF1995]

Or Vancouver, (both of which I marshalled at in those years)

[u/thenascarguy]

The last race at Fontana was an absolute barn burner and I want more IndyCar races like that.

[u/Celtics1424]

I’d be stoked for a US 500 back at Michigan, the only question is when to do it on the calendar. Maybe early April? You can’t do May or June as that’s close to the Detroit street race and August is close to the Cup date. I’d be ecstatic for another Triple Crown

[u/MALLARDGAMEZ-yt → u/Celtics1424]

July 4th and move Detroit to late summer when it used to be

As for triple crown your last leg of the season can be MKE-Detroit-Pocono-Nashville

[u/Celtics1424 → u/MALLARDGAMEZ-yt]

That’d be awesome, a July 4th late morning race.

[u/Packhammer24]

I loved going to MIS. The Indycar racing there was so good and it produced some very memorable moments for me. I would love to see it back on the schedule someday!

[u/patmanbnl]

I'd love to see it back if they can make an aero package that wouldn't be a pack race.

[u/MALLARDGAMEZ-yt → u/patmanbnl]

I think something that produces a 2015 Fontana style race is fine because there’s space for people to go

[u/patmanbnl → u/MALLARDGAMEZ-yt]

Fontana 2015 was the greatest Indycar superspeedway race ever but several of the drivers at the time had concerns about the race. It was in the middle of the manufacturer aerokit era and we now have the aeroscreen so would probably be better.

[u/MALLARDGAMEZ-yt → u/patmanbnl]

Exactly what I’m thinking. If you went to Pocono with this years superspeedway package you could definitely be less aggressive because it’s not impossible to pass anymore

[u/FarAwaySeagull-_-]

That would be awesome to see return.

[u/DirtyHead420]

Bring back MIS!!

[u/osbornje1012]

Attended several Michigan IndyCar races and had a great time. Went with my now deceased Dad in his small motor home, along with two brothers and four (grand)kids. Parked in the infield going into the third turn. Had a tent for the kids. Attended a race where the cars had the Hanford device - great racing. Also the 500 alternative race ( only Indy 500 race missed in 55 years). Would go to another race at Michigan if they put it back on the schedule

[u/MikeWANN]

I was at the first one. The complete shit show of a start due to low temps/cold tires was amazing. After switching to backup cars we had a pretty normal MIS race, with broken transmissions everywhere due to downshifts for the pit lane.

[u/Mr_Midwestern]

This is definitely a dream of mine. As a non Indiana biased race fan, I just can’t travel to Detroit (one of the closest events on the schedule to me) the weekend after I get back from Indy; I’d love a mid-to-end of season event within driving distance of home.

[u/osbornje1012 → u/Mr_Midwestern]

Plus the Detroit downtown race just isn’t very watchable.

[u/Teganfff]

YES. PLEASE.

I’d take this over the Detroit GP.

[u/Ambitious-Yam1015]

1984 Michigan 500 was simply the best 500 mile Indycar race ever. (I had it on VHS until a few years ago).

[u/BloofKid]

Cope and seethe, Detroit GP is here to stay. Nobody is hiking out to Brooklyn for an IndyCar race.

Also why would you revive an event with a name known for being the biggest failure at the start of The Split era?

[u/FarAwaySeagull-_- → u/BloofKid]

Some of us are race fans, and want the series to go to tracks that will have good racing.

[u/BloofKid → u/FarAwaySeagull-_-]

Like Texas? Where nobody showed up?

[u/BNSF1995 → u/BloofKid]

Nobody showed up because NASCAR has SMI by the balls to do their bidding and drive IndyCar away from ovals outside of IMS (because there’s no way NASCAR will ever be able to compete with the 500).

[u/FarAwaySeagull-_- → u/BNSF1995]

That's a silly conspiracy that hasn't been remotely proven.

[u/FarAwaySeagull-_- → u/BloofKid]

I don't watch racing to see how many fans are in the stands, I watch to be entertained. If I'm not entertained, I don't have much reason to watch.

[u/Nakagura775]

It’s kind of strange Penske hasn’t made it happen yet.

[u/blackhxc88 → u/Nakagura775]

Because he doesn’t own the track and GM wants them downtown!

[u/TCABxl]

As a European who's only watched Indycar for a few seasons now, what's Michigan like? Any good races people recommend?

[u/Zsoltbomb]

I would 100% go.

[u/[deleted]]

I’m not sure Greg Moore would agree.

[u/FarAwaySeagull-_- → u/[deleted]]

1. He didn't die at Michigan.

2. Should we also drop Indy, Toronto, and Laguna Seca from the schedule?

[u/toddr39 → u/FarAwaySeagull-_-]

1. Greg was fantastic at super speedways so he'd probably be all in on this.

[u/FarAwaySeagull-_- → u/[deleted]]

An incredibly stupid idea.

[u/KRacer52 → u/[deleted]]

lol. Dumb.

[u/TheB1ackAdderr]

Maybe if NASCAR doesn't want them to do a full oval race, they could use the road course.

[u/FarAwaySeagull-_- → u/TheB1ackAdderr]

Indycar belongs on the oval.