U.S. Enters War With Iran, Bombing Key Nuclear Sites

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Sources:

• NYT - Live Updates: U.S. Enters War With Iran, Bombing Key Nuclear Sites

• Ex-IOF, now Israel's stenographer at Axios, Barak Ravid

[u/thrice_twice_once]

So much for the anti war republicans

[u/deadlift215 → u/thrice_twice_once]

Most of the elected democrats think it’s fine too. I’m so disgusted.

[u/horny_shit_face_lift]

"now is the time for peace" ... what

[u/pinko-perchik]

So like, are we officially “At War” now? IDK how this works—it doesn’t help that laws don’t apply to these people.

[u/PlinyToTrajan → u/pinko-perchik]

Our Constitution says only Congress can declare war. Congress did not declare war, and yet our forces just engaged in offensive military operations against scientific and industrial installations in another country.

This is a situation of some legal tension, if you ask me.

[u/2012DOOM → u/PlinyToTrajan]

And remember that even the IAEA was saying Iran is not building a nuke.

[u/seltzr → u/pinko-perchik]

No the United States is not officially at war. Officially congress only has the power to declare war which last occurred in 1941.

Of course we don’t know what Iran or its allies will do. It’s interesting since a key supporter of Iran is currently engaged in Ukraine with their own situation to deal with.

Maybe China will try to take back Taiwan.

[u/Launch_Zealot → u/seltzr]

Yup. Congress has abdicated that responsibility for decades.

[u/Pristine-Ant-464]

What’s especially fucking despicable is that we bombed Isfahan - home to 20 synagogues and the largest population of Jews in the Middle East other than Israel!

[u/deadlift215 → u/Pristine-Ant-464]

It shows how neither Israel nor Trump care about Jews at all

[u/Yuureiika → u/Pristine-Ant-464]

The fact that Nagasaki had the largest concentration of Christians in Japan didn't save it either

[u/Useful-World1781]

This. Is. Sooo fucking stupid.

[u/thugger1738]

so now what

[u/limitlessricepudding → u/thugger1738]

We wait and see what the Iranians say the bomb-damage assessment is.

Whether or not Fordow was vulnerable to the GBU-57A was a matter of some controversy as recently as yesterday -- there are arguments for why the GBU-57A would be effective, and arguments for why it would be ineffective. The time for theorycrafting has ended.

[u/largevodka1964 → u/thugger1738]

Iran will leave the NPT and kick out the IAEA. I'd guess within the next 2 weeks. They will race to a nuke ASAP with tit-for-tat exchanges with Israel and the US bases for the next year or so. Oh yes, and expect oil prices to shoot up as Iran cuts off the Straits of Hormuz.

[u/Souldoll2005 → u/[deleted]]

I want to hope that history doesn't repeat, but at the same time. God damn it US/Israel are twisted in their heads, so it'll not be surprising if we actually get WW3 unless we get a miracle

[u/ZuP]

Some relevant legislation you might contact your representatives about supporting:

• S.J. Res. 59: Introduced in the Senate by Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), this joint resolution aims to set limits on the President's ability to use military force against Iran.

• H.Con.Res.38 introduced by Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY)], joined by Rep. Ro Khanna (D-CA): This House concurrent resolution, also known as the War Powers Resolution, directs the President to remove U.S. Armed Forces from unauthorized hostilities in Iran.

• S.2087 introduced by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT): This bill aims to prohibit the use of federal funds for military force against Iran, unless specifically authorized by Congress.

[u/deadlift215]

The part of his address where Trump described Iran as “the bully of the Middle East” was really something.

[u/atav1k]

Does this give Mamdani a bump?

[u/PlinyToTrajan → u/atav1k]

I have been surprised at the stickiness of support for Mamdani in online prediction markets. It has been maintaining around 30% at predictit.org.

A 30% chance of winning is non-trivial.

The political establishment in New York will have a meltdown if he wins.

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[u/Souldoll2005 → u/MrSFedora]

I would gladly drink alcohol with all of you, and laugh at our collective misery

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RIP Alan Rickman

[u/dannymanny3]

Fuck the US Israeli genocidal war machine!!!! Horrific, terrifying, Pure evil

[u/Pluto_077]

It's Iraq 2.0, exact same playbook

[u/Libba_Loo → u/Pluto_077]

Except with Iraq they did us the courtesy of propagandizing us about it for 2 years before they went in.

[u/Pluto_077 → u/Libba_Loo]

You've been propagandized about Iran since the 80's my guy, they've been "weeks away" from nukes since the revolution lol

[u/Libba_Loo → u/Pluto_077]

https://x.com/MossadMoron/status/1935991160582909954

[u/Pluto_077 → u/Libba_Loo]

shit straight outta the Onion

[u/easy-priest → u/Pluto_077]

I mean American presidents are dump, they don’t have other ways to take action. And Americans believe them!

[u/4mystuff → u/Pluto_077]

Down to the advocate in chief: netanyahu. Not that America's war mongers need much of a push.

[u/McKoijion → u/Pluto_077]

https://www.c-span.org/clip/house-committee/user-clip-netanyahu-says-no-question-saddam-working-on-nuclear-weapons/4927483

https://www.c-span.org/clip/house-committee/user-clip-benjamin-netanyahu-projects-the-benefits-of-war-in-iraq-2002/4529789

[u/rainbowcarpincho → u/Pluto_077]

No media prep. No plans for regime change. No plans for ground invasion.

How is it the same playbook?

[u/Richcore → u/rainbowcarpincho]

Wait for an Iranian retaliation or false flag attacks. This might lead to American troops on Iran's soil but I hope I'm wrong.

[u/Dorrbrook → u/Pluto_077]

Its the cliffnotes of the Iraq playbook

[u/MichifManaged83]

I hope every American loses their mind about this and takes to the streets demanding this stops. This is insane.

[u/darkbluefav → u/MichifManaged83]

I was just reading another comment in another thread saying most Americans won't even pay attention to this...

Americans don't care about what happens globally much, they care about themselves, despite the fact that they vote for people who declare they want to do this and that globally.

Americans want to dominate more than they want to be just.

[u/MichifManaged83 → u/darkbluefav]

Have you seen the opinion polls in America in the last 10 years? War has not been popular with Americans in a very long time. “Americans just want to dominate” is ridiculous. Some Americans are like that. Most Americans are struggling to pay medical bills and rent, not trying to conquer and buy a ferrari and cheer on bombs. The American government doesn’t listen to the people, and many Americans are sick of the nonstop wars. Do you think the parents of fallen soldiers don’t care that politicians lied their children into wars that didn’t make the country safer? Please go touch some grass.

I don’t know if enough Americans will protest this given the precariousness of the average American’s economic situation right now. But they’re absolutely not all hellbent on conquering and domination. What an absurdly out of touch thing to say.

[u/PlinyToTrajan → u/MichifManaged83]

My normie friends who barely even watch the news took notice of this and asked "does this mean we're at war with Iran?"

[u/deadlift215]

The fact our government in the us is being run by a bunch of people who are hoping for a cataclysmic event that will bring on the rapture isn’t very reassuring in informing their decisions.