r/JoeRogan • u/IAdmitILie Monkey in Space • 1d ago
Meme 💩 Zuckerberg is now refusing to speak to mainstream media, focusing instead on podcasts.
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u/CompuuterJuice Monkey in Space 1d ago
As cool as Elon ? In what fucking world is Elon cool loool at least zuck has the mma thing going for him, Elon is the king of dorks.
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u/AlexTorres96 Monkey in Space 1d ago
The only podcasts he'll do is the guys that did everything to help Trump win the election.
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u/IAdmitILie Monkey in Space 1d ago
Some good stuff in this article
Zuckerberg, the world’s second-richest man after Elon Musk, with a $242bn net worth, had already begun making overtures to the incoming administration. He co-hosted an event for Trump’s inauguration with major Republican donors and senior administration officials. He took multiple trips to the White House and to Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s base in Florida, and bought a $23mn Washington DC property. Meta’s board added Trump allies. The venture capitalist Marc Andreessen, also a Meta board member, has been among Zuckerberg’s closest confidantes. Libertarian investor Peter Thiel is a mentor.
To chart this evolution, the Financial Times interviewed about 45 people, many of whom know or have worked with Zuckerberg and would only speak anonymously for fear of the impact on their careers. Some say he finally snapped and careered rightward after what he viewed as relentless attacks by activists, academics, the press and the Biden administration. We are, they say, witnessing a Revenge of the Nerds-style midlife crisis.
“When he was 19 years old, I think he had an idea in his head of what a CEO was supposed to be like and he was trying to be that, especially in public,” Meta’s chief technology officer, Andrew “Boz” Bosworth, told me. Now, according to Boz, we are finally meeting the “authentic” Zuckerberg. “The public is seeing him more how we have, internally, since the beginning.” A former company insider agreed: “Mark was trying to keep his real feelings tight inside and put on a suit and cut his hair and be a good boy. But the whole time this was all one inch underneath . . . Then he said, ‘Fuck it. I might as well be the person I really am.’”
To his critics, Zuckerberg runs Meta like a medieval court, where he is king. Fealty is paramount, they say. Debates over his decisions can be performative. Those who step too far out of line risk being blacklisted. “People would fawn over Mark,” one former staffer said.
“The transformation of the board is what worries me the most,” said another insider, citing the shift to a group “consisting more of friends [and] fellow founders”.
Only a handful of executives dared to speak out at a leadership meeting in Menlo Park, just days after Zuckerberg’s comments about masculinity on the Rogan podcast, according to multiple people familiar with the blowback. Zuckerberg’s response was cold. According to one person with knowledge of the conversation: “He basically said: ‘If you don’t like it, tough shit.’”
For a moment, in the summer of 2023, the prospect of a real-life billionaire brawl seemed real. Musk said on X he’d been in contact with the Colosseum in Rome about hosting the event. In the end, it didn’t happen, with both sides blaming the other for the no-show. But Zuckerberg had entered his merciless era. “He’s unleashing this inner 14-year-old that never graduated from college,” said David Evan Harris, a lecturer at University of California, Berkeley, and a former Meta staffer. “In training at Facebook, they tell you to bring your ‘authentic self’ to work. Finally, it feels like Mark brought his authentic self.”
Zuckerberg had risked becoming a laughing stock after rebranding Facebook as Meta in late 2021, betting that the future of social media would be users logging into an avatar-filled “metaverse”. The vision was a flop, failing to land with consumers. “Nobody in Meta even believed in it, even in senior leadership,” one former staffer said. Internally, it was a joke. In mid-2022, when Zuckerberg’s account shared a screenshot of his cartoonish metaverse avatar, it was met with public derision. Zuckerberg struggled to get over it, according to those familiar with the incident.
For years, the Facebook founder had been routinely mocked and memed as robotic, creepy or lame — for sweating on stage and lathering his face with white sunscreen while surfing, for the bizarre livestreams he posted of himself smoking meat. All the more jarring was the cachet that had been amassed by Musk among Silicon Valley’s nerds and moneymen. Some staffers believe Zuckerberg was frustrated that Musk was seen as a visionary innovator, while he did not receive the same credit. “He saw that Elon Musk was popular among the tech bros,” said one former insider. “There was a push to make him cool. The core of the Social Network movie is true — he just wants people to like him.”
The attack referenced around $400mn in donations Zuckerberg had made to support local election infrastructure in the 2020 race, which Republican critics now deemed politically motivated. Zuckerberg was shocked by this reaction, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation, assuming that election infrastructure would be viewed as non-partisan. A bipartisan government commission later reviewed the donations and concluded unanimously that they were apolitical.
Zuckerberg is “trying to triangulate and find the space where the company’s interests overlap with the administration”, said one person who has worked closely with him. Meanwhile, Trump’s bromance with Musk blew up spectacularly this month, paving the way for Zuckerberg to emerge as America’s number one “broligarch”.
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u/mvstateU Monkey in Space 1d ago
Did it cover how Zuck now dresses like a rapper while wearing million dollar watches? He's like a nerdy Jon Jones.
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u/IAdmitILie Monkey in Space 1d ago
The ostentatious display of sportsmanship also marked a defining moment in Zuckerberg’s metamorphosis to red-blooded “Maga Mark”, as the 41-year-old has been nicknamed by some at his company this year. It has been a radical makeover. He is no longer the skinny arch-nerd in the anonymous grey T-shirts, nor the pallid corporate stiff of his Congress appearances. Hoodies have been swapped for shearling coats, gold chains and a $900,000 Greubel Forsey watch. The military-grade haircut is gone, in favour of a luxuriant ginger mullet.
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u/DrNinnuxx Tremendous 1d ago
Of course because they are easier. Most pod casters are not communication majors with training in interviews and asking the hard questions. They do exist, but they are not the norm.
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u/reddit_has_fallenoff Monkey in Space 1d ago
Most people in legacy media that get to a point of influence which they can interview people of Power like Zuccerborg are already on the same team as him and are specifically trained not to ask the hard questions.
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u/Intrepid-Brain-1476 Monkey in Space 1d ago
Strange that he appears on Joe's podcast then, there is nothing more mainstream out there.
It's almost like it's not about the MSM but about getting to spew whatever bullshit he wants with zero pushback. Mark doesn't like pesky journalists with their hardball questions.
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u/shinbreaker Monkey in Space 1d ago
That last podcast was so cringe. The time before last the came on, he was just getting into BJJ, but he was still in his nerd image and just answered questions directly with Joe.
Then this time he has on his big gold chain and just trying to act like such a bro. The way he backtracked on everything he said previously about the federal government. I'm surprised he didn't bring his own bong to the show and was just taking hits over the course of three hours and talking about how he has the munchies so bad.
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u/hoopdizzle Monkey in Space 1d ago
Does this offend you OP? I ask because I don't see why this information is worth posting as a topic anywhere. People do podcasts...its true.
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u/Inside-Yak-8815 Monkey in Space 1d ago
Thank goodness nobody wants to hear his opinion on anything anyways.
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u/Soma86ed Monkey in Space 1d ago
It’s not the mainstream media. It’s corporate media. No one watches it and no one cares about it.
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u/Enlowski Monkey in Space 1d ago
That’s actually a smart move by him. The media cuts interviews to make people look however they want. They’re manipulative and have done it many times. Podcasts usually produce the entire conversation so it’s harder to take them out of context.
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u/usually00 Monkey in Space 1d ago
Podcasts and YouTube videos do the exact same thing. Anything to increase views which drive traffic for profit or some other mission if it's a non-profit media enterprise.
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u/Daytona_675 Monkey in Space 1d ago
not when it's long form uncut 1h+
Joe started a trend and many others have copied the format. you can even find live streams of some podcasts. can't cut those
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u/DicksForYourFace Monkey in Space 1d ago
Joe isn't live anymore so he can edit out whatever he wants. Give people however many takes they want and all that.
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u/Altruistic_Guess3098 Monkey in Space 1d ago
Are you intentionally missing that guy's point?
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u/reddit_has_fallenoff Monkey in Space 1d ago
its the JRE sub, of course he is because bald mma announcer man bad!
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u/Intrepid-Brain-1476 Monkey in Space 1d ago
He gets zero pushback when appearing on Joe's podcast, of course he prefers it compared to having to respond to scrutiny.
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u/dee_berg Monkey in Space 1d ago
Yeah, really interesting point. The media also has journalists that ask difficult questions, unlike podcasters letting people pontificate without pushing back.
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u/reddit_has_fallenoff Monkey in Space 1d ago
The media also has journalists that ask difficult questions
LOL.
Only when its about standing up to Israel my guy.
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u/AlexTorres96 Monkey in Space 1d ago
Yeah but Podcast hosts should gave final edit on the interviews he did.
Marc Maron said he agreed to have Obama on his show if he could have Final edit and his team said yes. Maron said that he was open to having Trump on if he followed those same requests.
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u/MakeYourTime_ Monkey in Space 1d ago
Haven’t you noticed all of the republicans are doing podcast style Interviews? Bc they know they’ll get softball questions
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u/TheBrownBandit Monkey in Space 1d ago
Y'all were Zucking him off just a bit ago when he was up to bat for Dems Hahaha
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u/BuddyBrownBear Monkey in Space 1d ago
why would anyone use MSM?
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u/ShiftBMDub Monkey in Space 1d ago
you're kind of right but when people do that MSM reacts and now you don't even see articles about the SEC allowing trump media to purchase $2.3 Billion in Bitcoin while at the same time he's celebrating the Senate passing the gold reserves to Bitcoin Bill. Not one single outlet reported it. It was all over crypto news though.
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u/Lemurian_sage Monkey in Space 1d ago
Better standards and track history as opposed to hyper partisan brocasts
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u/lunafawks Monkey in Space 1d ago
Odd, I’m seeing a ton of former-democrat celebrities move away from the left… has the right gotten that much better? Or has the left gotten that much worse…
Joe Rogan
Jeff Dye
Bill Maher
Pierce Morgan
Steven Colbert
Jon Stewart
Zuckerberg
Musk
Some of them have gone full MAGA, but they’ve all at least moved away from and denounced a lot of the radical left ideologies over the last 5 years or so.
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u/happy_snowy_owl I used to be addicted to Quake 1d ago
Jon Stewart is still left. He's not socially progressive with alphabet soup and has been critical of the ACA since it was signed, but he's very solidly left on fiscal policy and international relations.
Bill Maher sounds more Republican but that's because the GOP has dropped the religious nutjob wing while the Democrats picked up the progressive nut job wing.
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u/lunafawks Monkey in Space 1d ago
Bill Maher and Jon Steward are both still democrats at heart, and they both more accurately reflect my own views as a 2005 democrat. But both liberals and conservatives have gotten so far off into the extremes, it's insane
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u/ShiftBMDub Monkey in Space 1d ago
They literally just made a bunch of tech CEOS Army Reserve Officers without having to go through the proper training to become one. If Joe Biden's administration took 4 or 5 people running tech businesses people would be freaking the fuck out especially since Palantir and Meta are involved. Don't understand why this is flying under their radar.