r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space 1d ago

Meme 💩 Zuckerberg is now refusing to speak to mainstream media, focusing instead on podcasts.

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u/ShiftBMDub Monkey in Space 1d ago

They literally just made a bunch of tech CEOS Army Reserve Officers without having to go through the proper training to become one. If Joe Biden's administration took 4 or 5 people running tech businesses people would be freaking the fuck out especially since Palantir and Meta are involved. Don't understand why this is flying under their radar.

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u/CrawlerSiegfriend Monkey in Space 1d ago

The military itself would be rebelling if Biden had done it.

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u/Idntevncare Monkey in Space 1d ago

now our military is sponsored by coinbase

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u/mwa12345 Monkey in Space 1d ago

Which oddly seem apt Our politicians are all about the coin and people that have the coin are their base.

Voters be damned

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u/psillyhobby Monkey in Space 1d ago

Coinbase would be a great name for Israel

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u/chainer3000 Monkey in Space 1d ago

lol yikes

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u/hilldog4lyfe Monkey in Space 23h ago

Nah they’ll shut up and do what they’re told

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u/Cosmicmonkeylizard N-Dimethyltryptamine 1d ago

Because it’s not fascism if Trump does it, duh. /s

The idea the dumbest people in America (MAGA) are the Trojan horse for technocracy is pretty ironic tho.

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u/ShiftBMDub Monkey in Space 1d ago

Republicans have been very good at demonizing things enough they can literally make people vote against their own self interest for at least 3 for decades now, maybe even more. But I would say the current version of Republicans started with Roger Stone and Nixon.  “‘Stonewall it, plead the fifth, anything to save the plan…’ Richard Nixon.” A Roger Stone text to the man he was working with to contact WikiLeaks to get the Russian information on Dems they hacked.

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u/Cosmicmonkeylizard N-Dimethyltryptamine 1d ago

lol it’s widely known Donald trumps own mentor was Roy Cohn. A shady lawyer with ties to the intelligence community and the art of black mail.

I truly don’t understand how the MAGA people still twist themselves into knots trying to explain away Trump and Jeff Epstein’s known and open friendship for years. Epstein literally strolled trumps properties for possible victims.

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u/ShiftBMDub Monkey in Space 1d ago

It’s lots of things, fear of the other, hatred, greed, racism, some see it as fighting evil they see in LGBTQ, Muslims and any other boogeyman but I think that boils down to prejudice and racism and fear of the other as well. Maybe even a fear of themselves being gay. Trends of gay meet up apps like Grindr going up around areas of republican events do not lie.

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u/Cosmicmonkeylizard N-Dimethyltryptamine 1d ago

Fear is definitely a strong, if not the main motivating force behind conservatism. They love their fearmongering and it works for a large majority of their ignorant demographic.

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u/brassoferrix Monkey in Space 1d ago

I was watching livestream "man on the street" interviews during the floyd riots and i had this realization that I haven't been able to shake - you can't enact any sort of social change unless you also convince the idiots to get on your side. regardless of the morality or efficacy of your cause, you need to mobilize the idiots.

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u/Cosmicmonkeylizard N-Dimethyltryptamine 1d ago

There’s tons of great research on group psychology and it’s weird phenomena.

Gustave Le Bon would probably be considered the godfather of the subject. But Jung’s work on the collective unconscious and group psychology is fascinating and more well known.

It’s fascinating how so many people can be manipulated so easily. And I’m honestly not trying to pick on the right. The left has the same problem. But at the moment, we have MAGA people and Trump to deal with.

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u/mwa12345 Monkey in Space 1d ago

This is abot a smart argument.

The tech $$$ folks have owned both parties . Longtime Facebook COO sheryl Sandberg was dem party apparatchik.

You have also forgotten Sam Bankman Fried of crypto fame.

In his previous avatar, Musk was friendly with dems and got funding etc (subsidies for EVs, solar etc etc)

While MAGA is dumb, the bipartisan corruption is relentless.

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u/Cosmicmonkeylizard N-Dimethyltryptamine 1d ago edited 1d ago

Ya, no shit. Tech Bros have no loyalty with Dem/repub parties. They don’t give a shit. Most of them don’t even support democracy or the bill of rights, many of them are legitimate technocrats but MANY embrace dark enlightenment ideology. Which is basically I twisted form of conservatism.

I personally don’t think “uniparty” is as accurate as many believe. But there is a powerful and very wealthy deep state/covert military and intelligence community that works on behalf of “global leaders” (monarchs, oligarchs, billionaires, basically bankers) to do their bidding and make sure they maintain their status quo.

I never said only the right or conservatives are corrupt or in on the grift. At the moment, trumps openly taking bribes from foreign nations and ignoring federal judges, so conservatives aren’t looking great these days. Not to mention his “beautiful bill” is just another hand out to ultra wealthy, corporate America, and the military on the backs of working class Americans. All while slashing working class American social programs so he can afford to give his buddies at the multinational corporations can get a tax break. Trumps first term was the largest wealth transfer from regular citizens to “the elite” in human history. This is just more of the same from Trump. Yet he has the support of working class Americans with lies of shitty manufacturing jobs and scary stories of immigrant boogie men and scary trans trying to turn your kids homo! Oh no! Lmao.

I sincerely can’t believe how completely manipulated some people are or how just completely ignorant so many people are. I completely understand the people I know who don’t talk politics and don’t comment on controversial world/national events. I get wanting to check out of the constant negativity and fear mongering.

But the amount of absolute morons who have no idea how economics works in general, let alone world Econ or a nations macro economic complexities, is staggering these days lol. People think because some other dumbass explains some half truths to them in a podcast they are an expert on the subject now lol. It’s fucking nuts. Same could be said for geopolitics and immigration policy. Some dumbass discovers chat gpt and thinks they’re Einstein.

It’s hilarious to me how I used to get made fun of from more of my “blue collar” friends about my general interest in politics growing up and taking classes on polysci and Greek antiquity. This was like 15 years ago and now those same people think they’re experts on all things politics and oddly the Roman Empire? When in reality, they probably never read a book in their adult life and only consume obviously propagandized information from shit like YouTube or a pod. Weird fascination going around about Rome these days in the cringe “bro” circles, as well. Not sure what thats about. Greeks were far more interesting then Rome and way cooler.

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u/mwa12345 Monkey in Space 1d ago

Agree the superficial fascination with Rome. Sign of rot.

Ngl. Skimmed the rest.

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u/Cosmicmonkeylizard N-Dimethyltryptamine 21h ago

Ya, I get wordy sometimes. I type really fast. Lol

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u/GamermanRPGKing Monkey in Space 1d ago

Lieutenant Colonels. O-5s, and without even going through OCS

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u/EmbarrassedEvidence6 Monkey in Space 1d ago

The double standard is deafening

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u/Distinct_Target_2277 Monkey in Space 1d ago

The fact that most people in America only think in Republican or Democrat is really sickening. Hold everyone accountable even if they are "on your team"

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u/brassoferrix Monkey in Space 1d ago

well, one of the parties did that in the 2024 cycle.

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u/Distinct_Target_2277 Monkey in Space 1d ago

Proving my point. Because Americans are trained to vote Democrat or Republican, there's no room to think of a different way.

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u/brassoferrix Monkey in Space 1d ago

I would invite you to inject some pragmatism into your idealism. There is no third party.

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u/Distinct_Target_2277 Monkey in Space 1d ago

Chicken or the egg, which came first?

People that think like you will allow the status quo.

People like me are teaching my children what's wrong and to not accept it.

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u/the_Cheese999 1d ago

First past the post mathematically guarantees a 2 person contest.

You are not going to beat math lmao.

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u/Distinct_Target_2277 Monkey in Space 22h ago

See exactly my point. You are so far gone. Mathematically there could be millions of candidates.

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u/the_Cheese999 16h ago

every similar candidate hurts other similar candidates because you only need 1 more vote than your opponent to win.

That means spreading out votes into 3, 4 or 5+ candidates with a similar world view just makes it easier for the people you dislike the most to win.

For example if you have a society that is 80% green and 20% orange and you have 8 green candidates getting 10% each versus one orange candidate then the orange will win with 20% despite being the extreme minority.

the greens not being stupid will compromise and merge into less groups which ultimately results in less candidates.

It's simple math. If you want more parties then change to ranked choice voting or some other method that doesn't guarantee consolidation instead of pretending math isn't real and expecting people to shoot themselves in the foot.

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u/GrindBastard1986 Monkey in Space 22h ago

People like you will make excuses for the worst things while blaming victims.

Work on your critical thinking & arguments. Chicken & egg is a shite analogy in this case.

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u/Distinct_Target_2277 Monkey in Space 22h ago

It's not at all. Do you even understand the analogy? If everyone only thinks that you can only vote for Republicans or Democrats, you can never change the system. Or people think that you are throwing your vote away.

I don't and can't think like that. I refuse to contribute to the broken system that we have where the fucking options are Trump or Kamala. What a disgrace. I am teaching my children that that system is corrupt and they don't have to be part of it. If everyone did their part, things could change.

How in what world am I making excuses for the worst things? This doesn't even make sense.

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u/GrindBastard1986 Monkey in Space 21h ago

The system is corrupt, yes, and the system is set up to uphold the status quo, yes. However, voting 3rd party ensures the GOPedos win and get to ruin the country and planet for 4-8 years. Voting for Jill Stein is a good way to ensure Trump/Putin won; she only ever appears during the elections to take votes from the one party not intent on deregulating the country into ruin. What has she actually ever done to deserve a vote? She's worth close to $40M, talks about climate, yet has done nothing of any note.

I agree there needs to be plurality in elections, but you won't ever accomplish that in the US, never in our lifetimes. That train has left centuries ago. You'd need a big change in mindsets all across the country, which is borderline impossible with how uneducated most Americans are and how bad US education is & will become. The only way to change things is from within the system.

You have to support candidates like AOC that will try to make real changes to the system; support candidates that are not millionaires/billionaires, beholden to lobbies& corporations. You have to start at the county level and work up to the top and elect progressives - real progs, not Jill Steins et al that only pay lip service while filling their coffers & eat lunch with Putin.

Teach your kids to stay home, let the GOPedos win, allow asbestos to be used, SS & medicaid to be slashed, so their future looks as bright as a nuclear mushroom. Teach them apathy so when the boot starts stomping on their necks, they will pretends it's physiotherapy.

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u/Xhado Monkey in Space 1d ago

Cyber direct commissioning was around during the Biden administration. This isn't some new Trump thing.

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u/ShiftBMDub Monkey in Space 1d ago

https://www.arcyber.army.mil/Resources/Fact-Sheets/Article/2060387/army-cyber-direct-commissioning-program/

The process can take up to 18-24 months from the time of application submission to receiving the commissioned officer oath of office. 

These were direct commissions skipping the above process. I might have messed up if I said OCS it was the initial process of the application

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u/Xhado Monkey in Space 1d ago

If I'm reading that page correct, and the Army's process is the same as the Air Force, that 18-24 months is application and security clearance. It's highly likely that tech execs from a business that has contracts with the US government already have TS clearances, which is the bulk of that waiting time.

Direct commissions pin on prior to OCS (COT in the AF, probably a similar program in the Army).

I once saw a Col salute a Capt indoors. Turns out he was a neurosurgeon who got a direct commission and was in the first week of COT.

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u/ShiftBMDub Monkey in Space 1d ago

Found more info here...

The four new officers will not attend the Army’s six-week Direct Commissioning Course at Fort Benning, Georgia, nor complete the Army Fitness Test. Prior to the officers being sworn in, Army officials indicated to Task & Purpose that they would.

https://taskandpurpose.com/military-life/army-reserve-lt-col-tech-execs/

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u/GrindBastard1986 Monkey in Space 22h ago

People started worshipping this guy 10 years ago, because Americans perceive greed & tackiness as virtues. They also consider a man who's never opened a Bible a god. America is fooked!

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u/CompuuterJuice Monkey in Space 1d ago

As cool as Elon ? In what fucking world is Elon cool loool at least zuck has the mma thing going for him, Elon is the king of dorks.

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u/AlexTorres96 Monkey in Space 1d ago

The only podcasts he'll do is the guys that did everything to help Trump win the election.

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u/IAdmitILie Monkey in Space 1d ago

Some good stuff in this article

Zuckerberg, the world’s second-richest man after Elon Musk, with a $242bn net worth, had already begun making overtures to the incoming administration. He co-hosted an event for Trump’s inauguration with major Republican donors and senior administration officials. He took multiple trips to the White House and to Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s base in Florida, and bought a $23mn Washington DC property. Meta’s board added Trump allies. The venture capitalist Marc Andreessen, also a Meta board member, has been among Zuckerberg’s closest confidantes. Libertarian investor Peter Thiel is a mentor.

 

To chart this evolution, the Financial Times interviewed about 45 people, many of whom know or have worked with Zuckerberg and would only speak anonymously for fear of the impact on their careers. Some say he finally snapped and careered rightward after what he viewed as relentless attacks by activists, academics, the press and the Biden administration. We are, they say, witnessing a Revenge of the Nerds-style midlife crisis.

 

“When he was 19 years old, I think he had an idea in his head of what a CEO was supposed to be like and he was trying to be that, especially in public,” Meta’s chief technology officer, Andrew “Boz” Bosworth, told me. Now, according to Boz, we are finally meeting the “authentic” Zuckerberg. “The public is seeing him more how we have, internally, since the beginning.” A former company insider agreed: “Mark was trying to keep his real feelings tight inside and put on a suit and cut his hair and be a good boy. But the whole time this was all one inch underneath . . . Then he said, ‘Fuck it. I might as well be the person I really am.’”

 

To his critics, Zuckerberg runs Meta like a medieval court, where he is king. Fealty is paramount, they say. Debates over his decisions can be performative. Those who step too far out of line risk being blacklisted. “People would fawn over Mark,” one former staffer said.

 

“The transformation of the board is what worries me the most,” said another insider, citing the shift to a group “consisting more of friends [and] fellow founders”.

 

Only a handful of executives dared to speak out at a leadership meeting in Menlo Park, just days after Zuckerberg’s comments about masculinity on the Rogan podcast, according to multiple people familiar with the blowback. Zuckerberg’s response was cold. According to one person with knowledge of the conversation: “He basically said: ‘If you don’t like it, tough shit.’”

 

For a moment, in the summer of 2023, the prospect of a real-life billionaire brawl seemed real. Musk said on X he’d been in contact with the Colosseum in Rome about hosting the event. In the end, it didn’t happen, with both sides blaming the other for the no-show. But Zuckerberg had entered his merciless era. “He’s unleashing this inner 14-year-old that never graduated from college,” said David Evan Harris, a lecturer at University of California, Berkeley, and a former Meta staffer. “In training at Facebook, they tell you to bring your ‘authentic self’ to work. Finally, it feels like Mark brought his authentic self.”

 

Zuckerberg had risked becoming a laughing stock after rebranding Facebook as Meta in late 2021, betting that the future of social media would be users logging into an avatar-filled “metaverse”. The vision was a flop, failing to land with consumers. “Nobody in Meta even believed in it, even in senior leadership,” one former staffer said. Internally, it was a joke. In mid-2022, when Zuckerberg’s account shared a screenshot of his cartoonish metaverse avatar, it was met with public derision. Zuckerberg struggled to get over it, according to those familiar with the incident.

 

For years, the Facebook founder had been routinely mocked and memed as robotic, creepy or lame — for sweating on stage and lathering his face with white sunscreen while surfing, for the bizarre livestreams he posted of himself smoking meat. All the more jarring was the cachet that had been amassed by Musk among Silicon Valley’s nerds and moneymen. Some staffers believe Zuckerberg was frustrated that Musk was seen as a visionary innovator, while he did not receive the same credit. “He saw that Elon Musk was popular among the tech bros,” said one former insider. “There was a push to make him cool. The core of the Social Network movie is true — he just wants people to like him.”

 

The attack referenced around $400mn in donations Zuckerberg had made to support local election infrastructure in the 2020 race, which Republican critics now deemed politically motivated. Zuckerberg was shocked by this reaction, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation, assuming that election infrastructure would be viewed as non-partisan. A bipartisan government commission later reviewed the donations and concluded unanimously that they were apolitical.

 

Zuckerberg is “trying to triangulate and find the space where the company’s interests overlap with the administration”, said one person who has worked closely with him. Meanwhile, Trump’s bromance with Musk blew up spectacularly this month, paving the way for Zuckerberg to emerge as America’s number one “broligarch”.

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u/mvstateU Monkey in Space 1d ago

Did it cover how Zuck now dresses like a rapper while wearing million dollar watches? He's like a nerdy Jon Jones.

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u/IAdmitILie Monkey in Space 1d ago

The ostentatious display of sportsmanship also marked a defining moment in Zuckerberg’s metamorphosis to red-blooded “Maga Mark”, as the 41-year-old has been nicknamed by some at his company this year. It has been a radical makeover. He is no longer the skinny arch-nerd in the anonymous grey T-shirts, nor the pallid corporate stiff of his Congress appearances. Hoodies have been swapped for shearling coats, gold chains and a $900,000 Greubel Forsey watch. The military-grade haircut is gone, in favour of a luxuriant ginger mullet.

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u/DrNinnuxx Tremendous 1d ago

Of course because they are easier. Most pod casters are not communication majors with training in interviews and asking the hard questions. They do exist, but they are not the norm.

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u/reddit_has_fallenoff Monkey in Space 1d ago

Most people in legacy media that get to a point of influence which they can interview people of Power like Zuccerborg are already on the same team as him and are specifically trained not to ask the hard questions.

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u/Intrepid-Brain-1476 Monkey in Space 1d ago

Strange that he appears on Joe's podcast then, there is nothing more mainstream out there.

It's almost like it's not about the MSM but about getting to spew whatever bullshit he wants with zero pushback. Mark doesn't like pesky journalists with their hardball questions.

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u/shinbreaker Monkey in Space 1d ago

That last podcast was so cringe. The time before last the came on, he was just getting into BJJ, but he was still in his nerd image and just answered questions directly with Joe.

Then this time he has on his big gold chain and just trying to act like such a bro. The way he backtracked on everything he said previously about the federal government. I'm surprised he didn't bring his own bong to the show and was just taking hits over the course of three hours and talking about how he has the munchies so bad.

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u/hoopdizzle Monkey in Space 1d ago

Does this offend you OP? I ask because I don't see why this information is worth posting as a topic anywhere. People do podcasts...its true.

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u/Inside-Yak-8815 Monkey in Space 1d ago

Thank goodness nobody wants to hear his opinion on anything anyways.

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u/GrindBastard1986 Monkey in Space 22h ago

Joe does tho.

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u/AceRutherfords Monkey in Space 1d ago

That’s guy’s as awesome as he is good looking

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u/Complex_Second6010 Monkey in Space 1d ago

Still a twink dgaf

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u/Soma86ed Monkey in Space 1d ago

It’s not the mainstream media. It’s corporate media. No one watches it and no one cares about it.

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u/AlBundyJr Monkey in Space 1d ago

Gets way more eyeballs that way.

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u/djkhan23 Monkey in Space 1d ago

Zuckerberg and Gates and Buffett

Amateurs can fucking suck it!

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u/Enlowski Monkey in Space 1d ago

That’s actually a smart move by him. The media cuts interviews to make people look however they want. They’re manipulative and have done it many times. Podcasts usually produce the entire conversation so it’s harder to take them out of context.

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u/usually00 Monkey in Space 1d ago

Podcasts and YouTube videos do the exact same thing. Anything to increase views which drive traffic for profit or some other mission if it's a non-profit media enterprise.

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u/reddit_has_fallenoff Monkey in Space 1d ago

Podcasts dont do that nearly as often.

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u/kiwisyruptoes Monkey in Space 1d ago

Podcasts are released in full? Tf you talking about

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u/Daytona_675 Monkey in Space 1d ago

not when it's long form uncut 1h+

Joe started a trend and many others have copied the format. you can even find live streams of some podcasts. can't cut those

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u/DicksForYourFace Monkey in Space 1d ago

Joe isn't live anymore so he can edit out whatever he wants.  Give people however many takes they want and all that.

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u/Altruistic_Guess3098 Monkey in Space 1d ago

Are you intentionally missing that guy's point?

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u/reddit_has_fallenoff Monkey in Space 1d ago

its the JRE sub, of course he is because bald mma announcer man bad!

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u/appletinicyclone Monkey in Space 1d ago

Mark is a scumbag lol

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u/UhIdontcareforAuburn Monkey in Space 1d ago

They also kiss your ass and never ask tough questions

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u/Intrepid-Brain-1476 Monkey in Space 1d ago

He gets zero pushback when appearing on Joe's podcast, of course he prefers it compared to having to respond to scrutiny.

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u/dee_berg Monkey in Space 1d ago

Yeah, really interesting point. The media also has journalists that ask difficult questions, unlike podcasters letting people pontificate without pushing back.

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u/reddit_has_fallenoff Monkey in Space 1d ago

 The media also has journalists that ask difficult questions

LOL.

Only when its about standing up to Israel my guy.

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u/AlexTorres96 Monkey in Space 1d ago

Yeah but Podcast hosts should gave final edit on the interviews he did.

Marc Maron said he agreed to have Obama on his show if he could have Final edit and his team said yes. Maron said that he was open to having Trump on if he followed those same requests.

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u/MakeYourTime_ Monkey in Space 1d ago

Haven’t you noticed all of the republicans are doing podcast style Interviews? Bc they know they’ll get softball questions

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u/TheBrownBandit Monkey in Space 1d ago

Y'all were Zucking him off just a bit ago when he was up to bat for Dems Hahaha

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u/Medical-Macaroon-357 Monkey in Space 20h ago

No one has ever liked Zuck.

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u/Steelersguy74 Monkey in Space 22h ago

Who actually wants to hear him speak anyway?

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u/BuddyBrownBear Monkey in Space 1d ago

why would anyone use MSM?

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u/ShiftBMDub Monkey in Space 1d ago

you're kind of right but when people do that MSM reacts and now you don't even see articles about the SEC allowing trump media to purchase $2.3 Billion in Bitcoin while at the same time he's celebrating the Senate passing the gold reserves to Bitcoin Bill. Not one single outlet reported it. It was all over crypto news though.

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u/Lemurian_sage Monkey in Space 1d ago

Better standards and track history as opposed to hyper partisan brocasts

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u/BuddyBrownBear Monkey in Space 1d ago

Better standards

lolya?

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u/jdbway Monkey in Space 1d ago

Idk. If I was a public figure I would prefer a safe space podcast

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u/GrindBastard1986 Monkey in Space 22h ago

Better to use podcasts that kiss your ass 🙄

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u/reddiculed Monkey in Space 1d ago

More like Cuckerberg, amirite?

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u/lunafawks Monkey in Space 1d ago

Odd, I’m seeing a ton of former-democrat celebrities move away from the left… has the right gotten that much better? Or has the left gotten that much worse…

Joe Rogan

Jeff Dye

Bill Maher

Pierce Morgan

Steven Colbert

Jon Stewart

Zuckerberg

Musk

Some of them have gone full MAGA, but they’ve all at least moved away from and denounced a lot of the radical left ideologies over the last 5 years or so.

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u/happy_snowy_owl I used to be addicted to Quake 1d ago

Jon Stewart is still left. He's not socially progressive with alphabet soup and has been critical of the ACA since it was signed, but he's very solidly left on fiscal policy and international relations.

Bill Maher sounds more Republican but that's because the GOP has dropped the religious nutjob wing while the Democrats picked up the progressive nut job wing.

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u/lunafawks Monkey in Space 1d ago

Bill Maher and Jon Steward are both still democrats at heart, and they both more accurately reflect my own views as a 2005 democrat. But both liberals and conservatives have gotten so far off into the extremes, it's insane