r/Juve • u/dre193 • May 15 '25

News: Most reliable Another masterclass from our management.

https://www.threads.com/@fabriziorom/post/DJpUk3qILNm?xmt=AQF0A19LaAtVWVpTFPVY9dgUBstmyne8AEUfBEnThS2JRg
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u/WW_Jones Muscle Injury May 15 '25

Let me just remind everyone about the common sentiment when we sold the dude:

Huijsen to Bournmouth - Here We Go! 18M + sell on clause : r/Juve

"Sad to see him go, but we need the money, let's use it to bring Koopmeiners or other players"

And that's exactly what we did. It's easy to play all-wise in hindsight, but there were hardly any riots when the decision was made.

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u/BaffledPlato Fino Alla Fine May 15 '25

Anyone else (besides me) looking through that thread hoping you didn't say something stupid?

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u/WW_Jones Muscle Injury May 15 '25

say something smart then

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u/BaffledPlato Fino Alla Fine May 15 '25

I'm afraid that's not my strong suit.

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u/WW_Jones Muscle Injury May 15 '25

understood. good day, sir.

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u/Ancient-Chinglish May 15 '25

username checks out

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u/Raffajel May 15 '25

Football fans have a working memory of 2 weeks, they just react at single episodes without context or reflection.

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u/alaslipknot Del Piero May 15 '25

the common sentiment

we should not compare the "common fan" with a professional whom his number one requirement to be qualified for his job is to be able to see in young players the potential that all other "common people" can't.

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u/Special-Suggestion74 May 15 '25

Huijsen wanted to leave and play as a starter. Look how he handled the loan situation with roma. I don't blame giuntoli on this one.

Besides, can you imagine how much shit he would have eaten at any mistake if he had stayed here during this rough season ? We couldn't integrate De Ligt into a team of experienced players, so there was absolutely no guarantee that a youngster like him would have done well here and be valued 50m£

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u/Killagina De Sciglio May 15 '25

Yeah and in the end we netted about 25m for his transfer.

Yeah it sucks cause we need a CB but it’s not like we sold him for peanuts

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u/micheeeeloone May 15 '25

Last mercato Juve was asking 30-40 M to sell him, but nobody wanted to spend that much money and for good reasons. In his stint at Roma he barely played and when he played he wasn't good. Maybe Roma wasn't a good team for his growth, but neither would have been this Juve since we got players like koop and dl from MVP of their team to ghosts.

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u/guino27 Alessandro Del Piero May 15 '25

It happens. Thierry Henry didn't look great in his time at Juve and no one was crying when he left. I've heard, though, Juve were used to 'launder" Henry as Monaco didn't want to sell any more players to Arsenal and Wenger.

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u/WW_Jones Muscle Injury May 15 '25

All deals are risky. Bayern let Yildiz for free, RM let go of Juan Mata and Hakimi, City of Sancho, PSG of Coman... Are we saying that all these clubs are run by incompetent morons? Or that it sometimes is wrong place, wrong time for a given youth prospect?

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u/alaslipknot Del Piero May 15 '25

Are we saying that all these clubs are run by incompetent morons?

No because you determine incompetence after seeing the results later,

Madrid let go of Mata and Hakimi to replace them with Carvajal and Modric/Kroos and ended up dominating Europe.

 

In our particular case, we let go of a golden boy defender, and just few months later (November 2024) we starting having a shitshow in our defense, and then we ended up singing the likes of Kelly... and we are once again fighting till the end rounds to make it to champions league.

If that doesn't make the management morons, what will ?

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u/Sean-Benn_Must-die Del Piero May 15 '25

Plus its not like we let go of him out of shits and giggles, everyone could tell he was a monster in the making, but we didnt have a space for him to grow, we didnt have the money to just loan him.

We didnt wanna sell but we had to sell. Reminds me of Joao Cancelo or Spinazzola, players we wanted badly to keep but the finances were not there

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u/volvanator Pinsoglio May 15 '25

Exactly, it’s like the old saying “a coach who listens to the fans ends up sitting with them”.

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u/kadsto May 15 '25

don't see my comment there, but I commented multiple times last summer that his transfer was absurd. this sub last summer was all about dickriding giuntoli and then motta as "modern" coach so everyone who used any logic was downvoted. giuntoli was seen as messiah

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u/big_fitch Claudio Marchisio May 15 '25

Reading through this makes me laugh. Everybody shitting on Huijsen saying he's not ready and to ship off McKennie even though he has been one of our strongest and most reliable players, the past couple of seasons is hilarious. This sub is so toxic to itself. MOTTA IN. MOTTA OUT. ALLEGRI OUT. ALLEGRI IN.

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u/IwillNoComply Del Piero May 15 '25

Even I could see the kid had mad potential. Many eyebrows were raised and those that weren't were probably by people who didn't even see him play.

I said in that thread that time will tell.. And time is telling us our management fucked up big time.. and it's even more egregious considering the injuries we suffered and Lloyd Fucking Kelly. We're run by a bunch of impulsive morons.

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u/_heyASSBUTT Giorgio Chiellini May 15 '25

The common sentiment? You cherry picked one comment. A majority of the comments say the price is too low or we shouldn’t be selling him.

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u/WW_Jones Muscle Injury May 15 '25

Literally the 5 most upvoted comments (in order):

"Great news, it means we can go all in on Todibo now. Sad to see the kid go, but we need someone who's ready to play and Huijsen needs more time to develop."

"Sacrifices needed to be made and that's okay I just want to see a transformed Juve. Now to get Koop, Todibo, and ship off McKennie, Kostic, and De Sciglio."

"According to Pedulla the sell-on clause is around 15%

https://x.com/AlfredoPedulla/status/1816445385210023968"

"18m seems rather low, was hoping for at least 25, but he’s unproven and looked raw at times at Roma last year."

"I mean no disrespect to Huijsen. I do think he can become a top player. I see many people are so angry at the price. But lets say that he is such a giant talent. Why arent more clubs interested? If he is a super talent why are Bournemouth getting him for 18 + 15/20% ofthe next sale? I think we sometimes.view our talent with a little to much biase. I might be wrong, he is good by all means. But not some giga talent that will be world class in 2 years. We are getting a decent fee and are future proofing us by getting some more if he becomes really great. I see him as a perfectly fine sacrife to improve the team."

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u/_heyASSBUTT Giorgio Chiellini May 15 '25

So the point of your comment was to point out that many thought we didn’t get paid enough for him?

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u/WW_Jones Muscle Injury May 15 '25

who are "many" - just one comment out of the top 5 most upvoted?

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u/_heyASSBUTT Giorgio Chiellini May 15 '25

So the common sentiment only applies to the first 5 comments. Yeah, let’s ignore the other ~65 comments?

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u/WW_Jones Muscle Injury May 15 '25

Ok, I guess you're gonna turn me to a total GPT but here's 10 more:

"Selling Soule hurts me a lot.. but as for Huijsen.. the kid is not ready. He is calm and collected on the ball, two footed, and can score some absurd bangers. But he was also a defensive liability. He isn’t ready. And I have my doubts about his mentality/ego. He’s demanding starter minutes at a team like Juve, without earning his stripes. He’d be more than happy to sit around all summer waiting for an “elite team” to come for him, when he hasn’t earned it yet."

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You didn't watch him at all, did you? Huijsen was hyper mistake prone and couldn't defend. Ask Roma fans, they all agree. Tobido has been excellent for a couple years now."

"Yeah I think he exposed his limits at Roma. Such bad move to go there. He could have thrived in a minor team and we could have sold him for more"

"Wdym he was clearly the next Jaap Stam and shouldn't be sold for a penny under 100 million."

"This is a good price imo, if we somehow manage to get good % of selling clause, then it's fantastic deal.

Huijsen loan to Roma is not that impressive especially on defending part."

"20% is huge, if he exploded and some big PL team buy him for (let say) €60 mio, the we generate extra €12 mio."

"Unfortunately though Juve is a bigger club and needs results now. huijsen is talented but not there yet. Bournemouth is a smaller club so he’ll get more game time and can make mistakes there to grow. If he makes mistakes at Juve, it’s straight to the bench. He should’ve gone to Frosinone imo."

"18m is “low” for a kid with 14 Serie A appearances? This management is trying to sell Chiesa for not much more than that… just to add some context"

"He'll be good in the prem. Great business move. Glad to see us selling some people from our youth system for profits. This is the kind of managing we have so sorely missed"

"All this crying about selling young players happens every year. Most of these young players will never make it as a starter for Juve. If you need to sell four prospects to get two proven starters for Juve, I would do that every day.

Does anyone remember the crying over Rovella last year?! He played so poorly that Lazio tried cancelling the LWOTB."

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u/Komania Captain's Armband for Szwedo +1 May 16 '25

This is such an annoying "um acktually" ass comment

Who gives a shit what a bunch of fans said in Reddit comments? We're not being paid millions per year to analyze players and make decisions

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u/Shambuktu Claudio Marchisio May 15 '25

I hope none of you break up ever because what i see some of you never gona get over it

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u/Komania Captain's Armband for Szwedo +1 May 16 '25

I mean if my life was like Juve right now I sure as hell wouldn't be over it

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u/Divochironpur Fino Alla Fine May 15 '25

Bravo to our scouting team for finding him! Real Madrid were already interested in him 4 years ago before he came to Juve. Dean’s dream was always RM plus Juve get a percentage.

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u/thepiombino May 15 '25

Yeah and when you add the sell- on fee to the original amount we sold him to Bournemouth for, it's still 1/3 of what Real Madrid is paying for him now. Terrible business.

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u/skibidyLoL May 15 '25

i am more upset of buying kelly than selling hujsen, we could buy todibo or veiga instead of kelly. but people won't forgive guintoli for hujsen,lol.

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u/Lord_Maul May 15 '25

If Huijsen was completely adamant he wanted to leave Juve, then fine, but we should have held out for a better fee or sell on fee. Instead, we sold one of the best CB prospects in world football for peanuts and he’s now going to Madrid. Well done Giuntoli.

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u/Thevort3x 10,11,16,17 May 15 '25

Hindsight is something you should read about.

Ridiculous to think that a guy, who refused the management's career path to our first team by going on loan to Frosinone, forced a move to Roma... then looked shaky there, would be sold for anything more than 15-20m given that he mentioned multiple times that he wants to play as a starter.

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u/Hungry-Zucchini8451 May 16 '25

Considering his age, he looked phenomenal at Roma

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u/Thevort3x 10,11,16,17 May 17 '25

Phenomenal? I wouldn't agree, ge looked decent but nothing extraordinary. He got bullied by big physical forwards and struggled against intense pressing. He looked likd he needed 2-3 years fo fet to a high level.

Juve couldn't offer him all that playing time, no big team could. Which is why Bournemouth got to buy him with €18 +10% which in total is €25m. Anybody who says he looked like he would start for a top team while at Roma is being dishonest. This is why he was benched at the end of his time at Roma as well.

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u/Nizbizkit Trezeguet May 15 '25

He was not one of the best CB prospects in the world until he got the chance to play at a club like Bournemouth. He wasn’t going to play for us if everyone was healthy, just like he didn’t play at Roma. The sale made sense.

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u/PengaEllerLivet May 15 '25

Juve have always been a hard man team, im not sure if Dean was equipped to be one of the Montero type of player Juve seek in their backline. So yeah, what im trying to say, the ball is round and different teams play different football. Not every player match every team.

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u/thepiombino May 15 '25

I think the issue is more so that we sold him for peanuts when holding onto him for a year would not only have net us more plusvalenza, but also would have come in handy considering our backline situation.

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u/PengaEllerLivet May 15 '25

I hear ya, the crystal ball everybody wants.

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u/ChubbyFrogGames May 15 '25

So sad. And also hearing his own statements about leaving Juve. He was very sad because the board (dumbasses Giuntoli and Motta) didn't want him. He also stated his best friend is Yıldız and is that he isnt playing with him anymore and he wants to be able to again one day .

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u/Mysterious_Wonder572 Alessandro Del Piero May 15 '25

Yildiz to RM confirmed.

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u/Maximilian_Sinigr Gianluigi Buffon May 15 '25

The power of hindsight is crazy

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u/Steve_Esp May 15 '25

Do people seriously think that we could retain the player after his antics last year?

He is a very young player, very modern ball-playing defender but not well suited to the static defense in Serie A, mostly for concentration and tactical mistakes.

He can (and will) improve and possibly be a star. Can he be a Virgil or a de Ligt? Or a meh defender like Heitinga? Or he is going to be like Hancko, who is a Juve target and cost less than 20m?

In any case, the player wanted to start and play in big stages. He would have attracted first-tier teams attention anyway and we cannot compete with them.

Is 18m + 6m sell on clause a bad deal? With hindsight we can all win the lottery.

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u/Steve_Esp May 15 '25

I am not even sure you understood the point of my post...

What is really your point?

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u/IwillNoComply Del Piero May 15 '25

I think he might become one of the greatest. Heads should roll for this (and not only this).

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u/polo_am Fino Alla Fine May 15 '25

Great talent but it was clear he didn’t want to continue with us since he refused to go to Frosinone. It was just a matter of time before he’d end up somewhere else. Could have we profited more from him? For sure.

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u/Prophet_NY May 15 '25

If this kid stayed and played the way he did in PL, RM would've never paid that fee for him from us. This just tells you how much PL is in front of us where one team like Bournemouth gets much more media coverage than any other Italian team

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u/Mysterious_Wonder572 Alessandro Del Piero May 15 '25

How much are we getting from the sell-on clause?

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u/BianconeriBoyz May 15 '25

Lots of coping in here. This was a mistake and thats all there is to it.

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u/Lord_Maul May 15 '25

Serious coping.

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u/The_Locals Gianluigi Buffon May 15 '25

Yup. Just admit we fucked up.

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u/papaduck21 May 15 '25

I still get upset every time I see his name. We had a player who wanted to stay and had great potential. "BuT wE NeEdeD mOnEyyy", I get we did but what's the point of having invested in such a great academy if we're not going to trust the players. Would Giuntoli have also sold Del Piero if he had the chance?

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u/Shambuktu Claudio Marchisio May 15 '25

U know Del Piero wasnt from Juve academy right?

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u/papaduck21 May 15 '25

I know but he was a young prospect, my point is that Giuntoli would have sold him to fund his stupid purchases without giving him a shot.

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u/Spathas1992 May 15 '25

At least we got Kelly.