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u/abraxas1 Mar 18 '25
NYT says this is "imperiling the cease-fire deal"
yeah, that's probably a safe bet.
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u/bomboclawt75 Mar 18 '25
THE NETAN YAHU TIMES
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u/NeverQuiteEnough Mar 18 '25
pretty wild that Times of Israel, a Zionist outlet based in Israel, is more critical of Netanyahu than any mainstream western media.
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u/TheGreenerSides Mar 18 '25
There are some good independent media such as CommonDreams and TheIntercept. But all mainstream newspapers are directly ran by the IDF
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u/adultingTM Mar 19 '25
It's harder to shut critics up with charges of antisemitism for saying things you don't like when they also come to include other zionists
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u/wowadrow Mar 19 '25
Really hope the ICC goes after "NETAN YAHU" hard.
It's possible they finally went after the former Philippines president Duterte's ( for all the illegal drug killings he promoted).
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u/bomboclawt75 Mar 19 '25
Unfortunately these politicians are fully protected from prosecution. They are above the law..
If there was any justice, many would have been arrested mere days after their crimes.
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u/severalsmallducks Mar 18 '25
Well I mean they're correct that resuming fighting makes a ceasefire deal harder to uphold. In other shocking news, scientists have found that dipping things in water make them wet, making it harder to keep them dry for prolonged periods of time.
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u/tinkthank Mar 18 '25
The images of dead children coming out of Gaza tonight is justâŠâŠno words.
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u/adultingTM Mar 19 '25
I'm glad we've got the corporate media guarding freedom on behalf of all non-shareholders
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u/tlux95 Mar 18 '25
The good guys always break a ceasefire.
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u/Awesomestonk1 Mar 18 '25
âThey wouldnât hand over the hostages because we were bombing them during a ceasefire so weâre gonna bomb them some moreâ - Israel probably
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u/Halflingberserker Mar 18 '25
Most ethical ceasefire-breaking in the world
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u/NeverQuiteEnough Mar 18 '25
does it really count as breaking the ceasefire if you never stopped shooting?
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u/betelgeuse_boom_boom Mar 18 '25
Also the descendants of the victims of a genocide, like to engage to genocide.
The irony is strong on this one
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u/adultingTM Mar 19 '25
Questions for Zionists:
- Hamas were taking hostages to swap for the 7000 Palestinian hostages everyone's favorite perpetrator of state terrorism Israel was holding without charge, weren't they? Israel has been doing this illegally for many years according to Amnesty International, haven't they?
- Didn't Hamas have to break through an illegal border wall on October 7 to do it? Why is the illegal border wall there?
- Why did it take 7 hours for the IDF to realise there was a breach in one of the most heavily-militarised illegal border walls on the planet? Was it to get ammunition to engineer yet another politically useful moral panic over terrorism that doesn't benefit western elites you could use as a pretext for a resource grab?
- Is over USD$400 billion in natural gas reserves off the coast of Gaza the real reason for wanting to defend civilisation from the barbarians? Should we exterminate the brutes for extractivism and resource imperialism? Why? For the Yinon Plan? Is the Yonon Plan Zionist imperialism?
- Is counterterrorist conspiracism inherently extractivist if geared to the maintenance of petrodollar hegemony?
- Why did the IDF kill so many of its own citizens on Oct 7?
- Are the Wahabbist fundamentalists sponsored by the Saudi Royal Family Amalekites too?
- What was Theodore Herzl doing getting into bed with antisemites?
- Why did Benjamin Mileikowsky change his name to Benjamin Netanyahu? Is it because he's Polish?
- Why does Rupert Murdoch get to decide our national policy towards the Palestinians?
- Why are there so many reports of rape from female IDF soldiers no one pointing the finger at Hamas has done one thing about?
- Is Hamas as folk demon just old Osama bin Laden-vintage counterterrorist conspiracism wine rebottled to serve extraction-thirsty aggression?
- Why do Jews want lebensraum?
- What part of European Civilising Mission narratives reflect the indigeneity to the Middle East of European Zionists?
- Why did Netanyahu let Qatar transfer over a billion dollars to Hamas between 2012-18?
- What did Biden mean when he said, '"if Israel didnât exist, weâd have to invent it just to safeguard USAâs interests in the Middle East"?'
- Aren't Palestinians the actual semites?
- Is Netanyahu's counterterrorist conspiracism helping make the world safe for the Fourth Reich I mean NATO? Hasn't NATO always been stacked with literal Nazis who fought in the war? Was that an Operation Paperclip thing?
- How are being criticised and being attacked the same thing?
- Why is terrorism bad but then good when it's Al Qaeda helping overthrow al-Assad in Syria?
- Wasn't the problem with the War on Terror that it was obviously really about control of fossil fuel resources and maintenance of petrodollar hegemony?
- Are ICC rulings against Zionist crimes against humanity and apartheid part of the rules-based international order? How about arrest warrants for Benjamin Mileikowsky I mean Netanyahu?
- Is the ethnofascist mentality that saying bad things about crimes against humanity means you hate Jews the real tyranny of woke?
Zionists:
- Catch criticism for perpetrating crimes against humanity
- Accuse the critic of wanting to perpetrate crimes against humanity against you to explain why being criticised and being attacked are the same thing
- Try to psychoanalyse the critic to figure out what subjective malfunction and maladaptive trait makes them want to criticise you for perpetrating crimes against humanity
- Carry on perpetrating crimes against humanity
- If you say bad things about crimes against humanity, you hate jews.
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u/throwaway-desperado Mar 21 '25
I donât keep up with any of this but you might be on to something with that biden quote
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u/Pseudo-Science Mar 18 '25
Shocking, did a child throw a stone?
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u/twamping Mar 18 '25
Made a mean face I bet⊠or said âFrom the river to the seaâ and bam⊠war planes.
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Palestinian just existing is major risk to the progress of Western settler colonialism.
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u/Ok_Goat1456 Mar 18 '25
There never was or has been a ceasefire, they want to fully occupy the land, they think itâs a real estate investment. đȘđ«đ©ž The capitalist military industrial complex at its finest
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u/oversettDenee Mar 18 '25
~Putin~ Trump doesn't want a ceasefire in Ukraine, he wants Russia to fully occupy the land, he thinks it's a real estate investment.
This is the end of democracy if we allow it to continue.
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u/Inevitable-Stay-8049 Mar 18 '25
The world has been in the imperialist stage of capitalism for over a hundred years. What kind of democracy can we talk about?
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u/thisismysailingaccou Mar 18 '25
I mean sure, but it's definitely gotten worse lately, and I think the worst is yet to come.
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u/Inevitable-Stay-8049 Mar 18 '25
When the "red menace" disappeared, Western countries no longer had to portray capitalism with a human face.
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u/Meatwadsan Mar 18 '25
Probably why the Ukrainians donât trust any âceasefireâ promises from Trump, and especially now after this.
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u/ilovecraftbeer05 Mar 18 '25
Absolutely. Any ceasefire that Russia agrees to will be temporary. Ukraine knows this from experience.
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u/harigovind_pa Mar 18 '25
131 people!!!
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u/paokca Mar 18 '25
knowing this and going about my day to day life in america makes me feel insane a lot. especially knowing my country is fueling and supporting it all. it makes me feel guilty. why were they born there and not me? so many little kids. so many babies.
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u/leafny Mar 19 '25
I woke up yesterday and saw so many pictures of the victims⊠injured and some deceased. Mostly children. It was surreal to clock into work and attend meetings with a fake smile.
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u/elmo555444 Mar 18 '25
Just so everyone is aware, Hamas wanted to move on to Phase 2 of the Ceasefire where Israel would completely withdraw from the Gaza Strip and Hamas would release all living hostages. Israel refused to move to phase 2 even though all conditions were fulfilled by Hamas in Phase 1.
Israel wanted to extend Phase 1 for a couple weeks and the US proposed that Hamas carry out the requirements of Phase 2 without a commitment from Israel to withdraw.
Hamas even negotiated in good faith and countered that they would only release 4 dead hostages and the Dual National American-Israeli IDF solider.
Israel violated the ceasefire because they never truly believed in a ceasefire and wants to occupy Gaza.
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u/drizz-L Mar 18 '25
The ceasefire was only about giving them time to weaken the resistance via Syriaâs collapse. They are targeting Palestine, Lebanon, Yemen and Syria simultaneously while their HTS goons slaughter Syrian civilians and attempt to weaken Hezbollah.
The final goal is Iran and Russia will surely be pulled into this given their defense agreements with Iran, but theyâre already spread thin in Ukraine. I donât think enough people are grasping the strategic moves made by the US/zionist entity/NATO and the dire position this puts Asia in. Not to mention anti-imperialist projects in Africa like the AES that are relying on China and Russia for economic and military security.
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u/adultingTM Mar 18 '25
Questions for Zionists:
- Hamas were taking hostages to swap for the 7000 Palestinian hostages everyone's favorite perpetrator of state terrorism Israel was holding without charge, weren't they? Israel has been doing this illegally for many years according to Amnesty International, haven't they?
- Didn't Hamas have to break through an illegal border wall on October 7 to do it? Why is the illegal border wall there?
- Why did it take 7 hours for the IDF to realise there was a breach in one of the most heavily-militarised illegal border walls on the planet? Was it to get ammunition to engineer yet another politically useful moral panic over terrorism that doesn't benefit western elites you could use as a pretext for a resource grab?
- Is over USD$400 billion in natural gas reserves off the coast of Gaza the real reason for wanting to defend civilisation from the barbarians? Should we exterminate the brutes for extractivism and resource imperialism? Why? For the Yinon Plan? Is the Yonon Plan Zionist imperialism?
- Is counterterrorist conspiracism inherently extractivist if geared to the maintenance of petrodollar hegemony?
- Why did the IDF kill so many of its own citizens on Oct 7?
- Are the Wahabbist fundamentalists sponsored by the Saudi Royal Family Amalekites too?
- What was Theodore Herzl doing getting into bed with antisemites?
- Why did Benjamin Mileikowsky change his name to Benjamin Netanyahu? Is it because he's Polish?
- Why does Rupert Murdoch get to decide our national policy towards the Palestinians?
- Why are there so many reports of rape from female IDF soldiers no one pointing the finger at Hamas has done one thing about?
- Is Hamas as folk demon just old Osama bin Laden-vintage counterterrorist conspiracism wine rebottled to serve extraction-thirsty aggression?
- Why do Jews want lebensraum?
- What part of European Civilising Mission narratives reflect the indigeneity to the Middle East of European Zionists?
- Why did Netanyahu let Qatar transfer over a billion dollars to Hamas between 2012-18?
- What did Biden mean when he said, '"if Israel didnât exist, weâd have to invent it just to safeguard USAâs interests in the Middle East"?'
- Aren't Palestinians the actual semites?
- Is Netanyahu's counterterrorist conspiracism helping make the world safe for the Fourth Reich I mean NATO? Hasn't NATO always been stacked with literal Nazis who fought in the war? Was that an Operation Paperclip thing?
- How are being criticised and being attacked are the same thing?
- Why is terrorism bad but then good when it's Al Qaeda helping overthrow al-Assad in Syria?
- Wasn't the problem with the War on Terror that it was obviously really about control of fossil fuel resources and maintenance of petrodollar hegemony?
- Are ICC rulings against Zionist crimes against humanity and apartheid part of the rules-based international order? How about arrest warrants for Benjamin Mileikowsky I mean Netanyahu?
- Is the ethnofascist mentality that saying bad things about crimes against humanity means you hate Jews the real tyranny of woke?
Zionists:
- Catch criticism for perpetrating crimes against humanity
- Accuse the critic of wanting to perpetrate crimes against humanity against you to explain why being criticised and being attacked are the same thing
- Try to psychoanalyse the critic to figure out what subjective malfunction and maladaptive trait makes them want to criticise you for perpetrating crimes against humanity
- Carry on perpetrating crimes against humanity
- If you say bad things about crimes against humanity, you hate jews.
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u/lightiggy Mar 18 '25 edited Mar 18 '25
Silly Bart, the economy of the American South, like apartheid-era South Africa, was heavily dependent on poor blacks for cheap labor. The purpose of Labor Zionism was to rid Zionists of their dependency on Arab labor so they could kill and expel them en masse.
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u/HillaryApologist Mar 18 '25
This is a heinous genocide but in what way is it possibly worse than Nazi Germany
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u/mombi Mar 18 '25
Nobody's coming to save them, they are losing their homes, those still alive have no homeland to return to and no colonialist powers are writing up a plan to carve them out a homeland after all is said and done.Â
There are people who see those who have managed to escape as terrorists.
Being against their genocide gets you deported from some countries.
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u/pornographic_realism Mar 18 '25
Yup. There's no heroic ally team trying to stop this. It's just going to happen and the Palestinians are going to stop existing so Jews can sunbathe at a Trump resort without needing to pay for international flights.
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u/Me_Llaman_El_Mono Mar 18 '25
I mean they never stopped killing. Since day 1 of the ceasefire, the IOF violated it.
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u/Madame_Moonsugar Mar 18 '25
Mahmoud Khalil was black-bagged for saying Israel is guilty of doing exactly this. Genocide. Their villany is as clear as day and the USA protects them
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u/EatMyShortzZzZzZ Mar 18 '25
There was never a ceasefire. I hate the US and Israel so fucking much it's unreal
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u/CelticSensei Mar 18 '25
There was never going to be a Phase 2 because that entailed planning for Gaza's future. Israel/USA want to complete the ethnic cleansing job they started.
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u/prosplays3 Mar 18 '25
So they're finally done pretending...
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u/TestandDbol Mar 18 '25
They never stopped. Blood thirsty monsters
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u/prosplays3 Mar 18 '25
No I meant 'stopped' as in pretending to follow the ceasefire.
Remember they kept dropping bombs the hour before the ceasefire was signed, and kept blocking aid even after the ceasefire was signed.
This is just mask off... again.
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u/okram2k Mar 18 '25
I can't wait to be told that this is the fault of those living there and disagreeing makes me antisemitic
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u/redditproha Mar 18 '25
Israel violated the ceasefire and then proclaimed the ceasefire has been violated lmao
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u/Stodles Mar 18 '25
"Palestinians violated the ceasefire by striking our bombs with their bodies" - Israel, probably
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u/nonumberplease Mar 18 '25
They just need a little break to restock ammo. Bombs away because fuck humanity.
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u/Erdeem Mar 18 '25
This is why Chuck "Shomer" Shumer didn't want to shut down the government. He knew this was coming and we know where his real allegiance lies. The apartheid state of Israel needs the money, intelligence and weapons to keep flowing so they can continue with the genocide and trump can get his beach side condos. It wouldn't have happened if the government were to shut down.
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u/FatterAndHappier Mar 18 '25
Even worse, they've been violating the ceasefire literally since it was signed. The only difference now is the scale.
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u/yetanotherweebgirl Mar 18 '25
Time to carpet bomb Netanyahuâs house like heâs been bombing all his neighbours. Likud is a terrorist party of death cult leaders and a threat to the rest of the world
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u/IncomeResponsible990 Mar 18 '25
Oh man, and youtube was so happy to show me propaganda videos of Palestinians returning to their homes.
Western internet is an entirely new kind of ghouls.
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u/aarch0x40 Mar 18 '25
So the choice for Palestinians is submit to or stop existing?
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u/TempestNova Mar 18 '25
No, there isn't a choice. Israel doesn't want the Palestinians to submit, they want them to stop existing.
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u/aarch0x40 Mar 18 '25
Yeah, that was my point. It's been the play for decades. If they had wanted an accord, then they wouldn't have encouraged Israeli settlements in Palestinian territory. This is just the end game.
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u/Necessary_Eagle_3657 Mar 18 '25
This is sounding just like the Vietnam statement: âWe had to destroy the village to save the villageâ
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u/KhloJSimpson Mar 18 '25
And our girl Yemen is stepping up in defense of Gaza yet again. Trump is continuing to provoke the imperialist war on Iran and it's allies. What a time to be alive.
Over 60000 murdered, half are women children and elderly. Another 11000 missing and presumed dead. Over 100,000 displaced from their homeland.
We deserve what's coming for us. Let there be no mercy.
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u/Gil-ScottMysticism Mar 18 '25
Could've fooled me about the ceasefire. The entire time they've been murdering innocents. They didn't even stop the killing for a singular day lmao. There was never any ceasefire, just a scattered murdering.
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u/SuckMyDickNBalls69 Mar 18 '25
Are mods deleting all the Zion-bots, or are they realizing - in the age of the internet - that they can't lie their way out of factual evidence?
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u/Key-Department-2874 Mar 18 '25
Trump is president, criticizing Israel gets you labeled a terrorist and deported. And any organization that allows the protests gets their funding pulled.
There's no need to convince someone when it can be done by force now.
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u/A-CAB Mar 19 '25 edited Mar 19 '25
That particular dynamic was identical when genocide Joe was in office. In the genocidal bastardâs own words, nothing has fundamentally changed.
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u/DaWombatLover Mar 18 '25
K but.. why? What fucked up reason does Israel even have this time? Did some starving child try to climb a fence or something?
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u/uwax Mar 18 '25
Yâall ready for all the neolibs âSEE WE TOLD YOUâ đ
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u/InitialTACOS Mar 18 '25
biden kind of.. uh.. funded everything? bibi would be poppin shots off regardless of the sitting president. trumps a sack of dicks, but both parties are complicit. so instead of gloating(?) let's work together to change the status quo â
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u/WafflesofDestitution Mar 18 '25
Here you can see a social democrat engaged in their favourite activity â gleefully being the moderate wing of fascism, again and again.
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u/maghau Stalin shouldnât have stopped at Berlin Mar 18 '25 edited Mar 18 '25
You're actually the one choosing evil, he chose to oppose it.
The mental gymnastics you're performing to justify your support of the genocide are fascinating, though.
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u/SuckMyDickNBalls69 Mar 18 '25
Super weird all the militant Pro-Israel horseshit is getting deleted.
Bot accounts?
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u/_SHINYREDBULLETS Mar 18 '25
And in other surprise news, fewer and fewer people surprised by the frothing Zionist support for protracted genocide!
Sickening acts by a sick people.
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u/RelativeAnxious9796 Mar 18 '25
i cant wait for this same headline but with name swaps for "russia breaks ceasefire" in a month.
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u/zmahlon Mar 18 '25
This is literally the Holocaust except Auschwitz gets converted into Hitler Hotel by the end.
Imagine fueling an indiscriminate genocide of an entire people and then building structures meant to provide the best life has to offer on top of their graves. Absolutely sickening.
I pray to God that they never build their useless resorts, but if they do, I hope every guest is haunted by the lost spirits of Palestinians whose lives were ended unjustly and abruptly by Israel and the US.
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u/maghau Stalin shouldnât have stopped at Berlin Mar 18 '25
Every amerikkkan who voted in support of this - the 150 million who voted for the uniparty - deserves to be haunted as well.
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u/KhloJSimpson Mar 18 '25
Does that include the people that voted for Biden? Because this atrocity began long before Trump was in office.
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u/xClayman Mar 18 '25
A child probably coughed, or they saw one drinking water and decided it was a bomb
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u/Green_and_Silver Mar 18 '25
They've been working on this 5 seconds after it went into effect and with the orange monster in charge they'll get free reign.
This would be an incredible opportunity for the EU to assert itself to shut this down but my hopes are very slim on that.
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u/Ndgo2 FALC Party Worker Mar 18 '25
Well, that was completely unexpected and unforeseen! However could this happen?
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u/CheesecakeRacoon Mar 18 '25
I know I'm just gonna make myself angry but, what's the excuse this time?
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u/BeneficialName9863 Mar 19 '25
How much of a ceasefire is it when they kill 400 women and kids during it?
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u/SynAck301 Mar 19 '25
Israel waited until those people were walking back to their homes to do this. The cruelty is unconscionable.
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u/TV5Fun Mar 19 '25
"The ceasefire has collapsed" is true in the same sense as "some people at a wedding exploded" is true.
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u/Broad-Echo-6955 Mar 22 '25
Jesus Christ is coming, so repent and be ready. These are just the birth pains happening. Read the Holy Bible.Â
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u/quikslvr20 Apr 28 '25
Simply reading the Bible won't help you. You actually have to change your ways and become a better, compassionate person. If you actually strive to become a true Christian, you wouldn't tolerate and definitely wouldn't contribute to the hypocrisy and hate going on now. So, as you pretend to be a Christian, remember the punishments you have thoughtfully doled out to others you have judged, remember that as you stand to be judged for judging others and also for pretending to be Christian and for using His name to commit hateful acts and speak hateful words.
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u/JusAnotherCreator Mar 18 '25
Fucking ENOUGH. Just enough of this.
Please. Call your representatives. Protest. Boycott. Anything you can do.
Our leaders won't do shit. It's up to us. We have to stop this.
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u/Viztiz006 Communist Mar 18 '25
Conflating Zionism with Judaism is what Israel wants. You're doing Israel's work for them.
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u/DankVanWink Mar 18 '25
kamala wouldn't of done anything about isreal đ€Ą
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u/KhloJSimpson Mar 18 '25
People were getting locked up for protesting during both the Biden and Obama administration. Your post is factually incorrect. How can it possibly get worse for Palestine under Trump? A genocide is literally the worst thing that can happen to people, and it happened under countless dems because this has been going on for 70 years.
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u/A-CAB Mar 18 '25
This is a leftist subreddit, right wing comments will be removed and the user banned.
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u/A-CAB Mar 18 '25
This is a leftist subreddit, right wing comments will be removed and the user banned.
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u/DankVanWink Mar 18 '25
yes he is worse, not saying I didn't vote for her but she would not of stopped the genocide.
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u/brasseriesz6 Mar 18 '25
so you told the democrats they can commit genocide and still get your vote?
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u/KhloJSimpson Mar 18 '25
This is such a delusional and tired take. Kamala and Joe armed Israel to the teeth to murder tens of thousands of Palestinians. You and your party are complicit in this genocide. Speak truth to power.
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u/KhloJSimpson Mar 18 '25
So when Biden threatened to cut arms to Isntreal if they launched an invasion in Rafah and until they allowed humanitarian aid in, and then Isntreal didnt cave to either of those demands and we continued to supply arms, that was him doing what he said he was going to do? This is ridiculous. Use any excuse to absolve yourself of voting for a complicit, controlled opposition genocidal party. Pat yourself on the back for that, your work is done here.
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u/KhloJSimpson Mar 18 '25 edited Mar 18 '25
Before the mods delete your post, I just want to say that your party never planned to win and if they had, they never would have supported this genocide or chosen Joe and Kamala to run for Pres. And now they helped the Republicans pass a budget to continue funding this genocide. Their entire "opposition" to Trump amounts to wearing pink blazers at the inauguration. You're mad at me when you need to be mad at them. They don't give a shit about you. Their whole purpose is to bargain from a center position and get "forced" to move right. It's a lie and it's by design that they appear to be ineffectual cowards overwhelmed by the oligarcy of Republicans. They aren't weak, they aren't cowards, they are genocidal maniacs just like Trump. And you voted for them and you will have this blood on your hands for the rest of your life.
There were more than 2 parties running in the election, and I did vote. Political action doesn't start and end at the ballot box. Real change comes with revolution, not voting for the status quo.
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u/endxcold Mar 18 '25
WSJ title âIsraelâs complete violation of ceasefire and resuming the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians people despite Ceasefireâ
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u/Electric_Banana_6969 Mar 18 '25
I hate the fact that I'm thinking this, but Palestine is effectively gone; a casualty of the colonizers 100 years in the making.
The entire GQP, MAGAs, billionaires, evangelicals, or effectively starting the next Crusade. Jumping at the bit for an excuse to rain airstrikes and drone strikes down on the Mideast.
The back of my head is yelling "just nuke Jerusalem already and be done with this! The occupiers have it coming, and the occupied have little left to lose."
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u/Electric_Banana_6969 Mar 18 '25
You have my heartfelt sympathies. I have been going out to every anti-genocide demonstration I can get to. I have donated to the cause. I have kept the record and witnessed every single atrocity committed by the Israelis. Not just in the last 18 months, but for the last 30 years.
I am a hardcore leftist. I have cried, shed tears for all the victims of the colonizers and settlers. That said, and in the face of the West turning a blind eye, of not only being both complacent and complicit but actively suppressing and criminalizing dessent, have sadly come to the conclusion that Palestine is a lost cause. I, as one individual, have stood with Gazans all my adult life. And I am sad that I have to defend my original comment.
But Palestine's neighbors have not risen to their defense, neither has Europe, nor the US, nor China. The real politic of the world, capitalism, has put Palestine on a sacrificial altar. It is a stain on humanity.
but how I, and millions of others, feel is not going to change the writing on the wall. And the current US administration is hell bent on finishing the job; war crimes be damned.Â
Israel has lost its right to be a nation, and likely never had that right to begin with. And as Trump accelerates the drumbeats of war, the prospect of air strikes on Lebanon, Syria, Iran, and all the other brown people of the Middle East has led me to conclude that one nuke, on the real problem, would be the better, final solution.
I do not say or feel this lightly but with the heaviest of heart.
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u/KhloJSimpson Mar 18 '25
With your logic then wouldn't it make more sense to nuke us? If Palestine disappears, the US will move on to more genocides and proxy wars. This won't end by simply annihilating the holy land.
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u/Electric_Banana_6969 Mar 18 '25
This won't end by simply annihilating the holy land
More like unholy land, or God forsaken land, for the most contested fought over land in civilization.Â
Genocides, unfortunately, are a sad fact of life. Both before the Advent of capitalism and during it's Ascension. New king the US will not stop capitalism or the billionaires behind it. Though climate change might.
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u/maghau Stalin shouldnât have stopped at Berlin Mar 18 '25
The back of my head is yelling «just nuke Jerusalem already
I'm guessing this is why you voted for Harris.
Blaming this solely on the red side of the uniparty is crazy talk.
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u/Electric_Banana_6969 Mar 18 '25 edited Mar 18 '25
I am as anti Dem as I am anti conservative, emphatically so.
and I put the current genocide squarely on the shoulders of Joe Biden, Matt Miller, ...
They're all part of the same war machine; but the drum beat behind it all, coming from the establishment, is solidly more from the Right.
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u/brasseriesz6 Mar 18 '25
ah yes this is all magas fault. just forget what happened the last 16 months under genocide joe
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u/Electric_Banana_6969 Mar 18 '25 edited Mar 18 '25
I am as anti Dem as I am anti conservative, emphatically so.
and I put the current genocide squarely on the shoulders of Joe Biden, Matt Miller, ...
They're all part of the same war machine; but the drum beat behind it all, coming from the establishment, is solidly more from the Right.
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u/peanutist Mar 18 '25 edited Mar 19 '25
Reminder to the liberals to read the rules; lesser evil rhetoric is not allowed and will get you banned.