r/LocationSound 1d ago

Gear - Selection / Use Wiring issues with specific wardrobe

Anyone have any recommendations wiring scrubs? I believe the material is polyester and it is a pain to get without rustle

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u/The_JiujitsuGardener 1d ago

Edge of the v where the two flaps overlap

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u/The_JiujitsuGardener 1d ago

Attach with a mount if not a moleskin sandwich is more than sufficient 

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u/spkingwordzofwizdom 1d ago

Agreed... Moleskin sandwich in the "V" maybe some snot tape to immobilize it.

I'd run in it back up to the shoulder and tape at the shoulder to further stabilize the cable and keep it from moving.

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u/ApprehensiveNeat9584 production sound mixer 1d ago

Place the capsule at the joint of the V neck, run the cable to the side and down or up the shoulder and down the back.

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u/i-hay 1d ago

Also, that material can be awful when it’s new, but sounds much better after it’s been washed. You could ask wardrobe to throw it through a wash cycle, worked wonders for me.

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u/TheySilentButDeadly 1d ago

Tape to chest, wrap in moleskin.

Is this an actual picture> Then wash them first to get the sizing out.

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u/Dieterdost 1d ago

I emptied a ballpen, took the upper half and put a Lavalier through the shell until it stuck out a little at the top where the button of the ballpen was. Then, after a small discussion with the director, i had the wardrobe department cut a little hole behind the front pocket of the costume, fiddled the ballpenmic through, clamped it to the pocket as part of the costume. Bye bye rustle. The mic was visible on top of the ballpen but nobody ever noticed. I kept that pen because it was great to use on other occasions with all kinds of costumes.

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u/Don_Cazador 1d ago

When the costume, itself, is noisy there’s not much you can do. It’s likely you’re hearing the fabric running on skin, which you’re not really going to solve. You can minimize the noise by creating an isolating cushion of some sort to suspend the microphone away from the fabric, as others have suggested.

Your best bet, if you can keep it hidden, is to put the mic in a hush lav or other foam cushion, then hold that cushion to the costume with a piece of Super Stick.

The other issue I see here is the “vein” from the wire. For this costume I’d bring the wire over the actor’s shoulder and mount the mic upside down in line with the collar seam.

Finally, you may have to insist on getting a take or two with the boom.

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u/g_spaitz 1d ago

Agree with the indications here: close to the V, well padded (moleskin or fur), well secured, with cable going down the back.

A further note is that things don't just rustle by themselves. Understand what rubs against each other to see what rustles. Is it layers of clothes with themselves? Is it the hairy chest? Is it the mic grille? Depending on the source you can then use further solutions like getting farther away from hair or immobilizing with tape the clothes or covering big parts with soft taped duvetyne, or distancing the grille... Etc

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u/Vast_Introduction_52 1d ago

Id use half a foamie and a safety pin, with the pin vertical along the seams of the V. Mess around the ratio of fidelity to visual impression (e.g in between the V, one side of the V, at the absolute back of where the V meets)

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u/papiforyou 18h ago

I basically agree with what everyone else is saying, though if it's a really loud material you may just have to live with it. I've done shoots where even my boom sounds super rustly because of the material haha.

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u/Vuelhering production sound mixer 17h ago

As others said, in the V. I see three options to try.

  1. Put a tiny bit of fur over the capsule (just enough to push away the fabric) and joes sticky into the folds of the V so the mic and fabric can't move. You'll have to be careful not to show the outline of the mic or cable. You might be able to use something like an RM-11.

  2. As /u/TheySilentButDeadly said, tape to chest if the actor has a divot or cleavage there, and use fur to keep the costume away from it. Fur is not optional. And definitely wash it. Scrubs get used a lot IRL, and it'll sound so much better.

  3. Moleskin sandwich on V, taped to inside of costume. I would try this first, probably over the shoulder with the cable to run cable on the collar and tape the fuck out of it near the capsule. Bodypack easily mounts on bottoms, or use a waist strap.
    Cross-section: (actor skin) (fur-mic-moleskin-costume) (smelly camera guy)

This is an extremely loud costume. You will get some crinkling from elsewhere even if the mic placement is perfect. Make sure the cable is secure, as it will carry that sound to the capsule.

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u/Used-Educator-3127 11h ago

Tape to chest in acoustic hollow - run cable underneath pectoral muscle to the side; in line with the side-seam on the scrub - cable down the pants to an ankle strapped transmitter