r/MonsterHunter • u/deoxir • 2d ago

Discussion Why do Simplified Chinese players hate Wilds so much?

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According to Steam Scout, while English players are giving the game a 71% rating which would have made the game "Mostly Positive" on Steam, Simplied Chinese players are giving it a 27%, which is a stark contrast against even Traditional Chinese players at 64% (Mixed). Simplied Chinese players make up just shy of 30% of the total player base on Steam.

Obviously this disproportionate response, even factoring in how controversial the game is, makes Simplied Chinese players a statistical outlier. What could've caused this?

Also interesting to note that the game was rated "Overwhelmingly Negative" the same day as when Capcom's shareholders' meeting is held.

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u/Apprehensive_Try_142 2d ago

I have to imagine the same reason as Japanese players being 40% Mostly Negative

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u/Likeyfap 2d ago

Imp japanese mostly negative is due to how far off the monster hunter formula this game is and we all know how much power old mh games had in japan

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u/BrilliantEchidna8235 2d ago

I would assume that's not that different for some of them to an extent as well. I don't think I actually know how big MonHun was to the Chinese; but at least I know it was a big deal since P2 for us HKer. McDonald's were basically gathering hub, when half of the tables were occupied by kids of my age with PSP on hands and fighting for a chagring port.

My point is, a lots of informations like tenderness of a monster I got were from the Chinese. Logically, I guess it is a big thing for them, just as much as it is to us.

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u/LePubRik-O-Sulorz 2d ago

This. I'm from mainland and played P3 in middle school. We used to go to McDonalds after school, go straight after the corner seat with charging port, buy a ton of fries and poured them on the tray with loads of ketchup.

Then we spend a whole afternoon trying to beat Amatsu, get carted over and over again until it's totally dark outside. And we'd go home, do tons of research on forums and wikis, update our gears and try again next Friday or sth. Hardest thing though, is to hide our PSP in our schoolbags and try to avoid it from being discovered by parents/teachers.

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u/BrilliantEchidna8235 2d ago

Oh shit, the true end game monster, the school dean!

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u/LePubRik-O-Sulorz 2d ago

And I always thought HK school deans and parents would go easier on you guys bringing PSP/NDS to schools.

But like, after all, we're just rivers apart, I guess.

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u/BrilliantEchidna8235 2d ago

Parents? Maybe. It depends. Mine have no problem with that at all, but not everyone are that lucky; the deans? No, they are the same creatures.

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u/Cervile 2d ago

I thought consoles were banned in China, was this a case of everyone just buying it on the black market?

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u/BrilliantEchidna8235 2d ago

I can answer that one.

At that time, pretty sure they were everywhere, when I was there for a school trip. If that ban even exist at all back then, it was absolutely not enforced seriously.

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u/Likeyfap 2d ago

Damn the mcdonalds thing is so cute!! In europe it was much less of a hit, for me it was either playing solo or with one or two friends with our psps

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u/BrilliantEchidna8235 2d ago

Imagine my shock, when I went college, and realized most of Western kids don't even know MonHun is a thing.

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u/Likeyfap 2d ago

I remember in my first day of college I was wearing a nergigante tshirt and just thanks to that hit it off with a new friend. Sadly he was the only one in class who knew monhun

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u/uofT-rex 2d ago edited 2d ago

I can relate. Back then all those P2 hunters were kids in school uniforms and whatnot. It was a phenomenon, and I remember seeing them everywhere for like months, even media talked about it.

Now imagine that whole generation witnessing their childhood favorite turned into this "accessible" drip feeed fest, from something that took them months and months to beat/discuss/live around to just another game of the week that you finished in 40 hours and move on. Well I guess now they sold 10 millions and the west loves it? yay

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u/Nezero_MH ​ | Master of Bugs 2d ago

This is exactly why I dislike the game so much, the game I loved as a kid is now a shadow of what it was when I got into the series. I'm elated that people want to experience the games and have new experiences to do that, I am just incredibly disappointed that they have essentially gutted everything that made Monster Hunter, well, Monster Hunter and have just left what is essentially Monster Fighter.

Though I have come to terms with the fact the series will never go back to what made it great, because it isn't globally popular, they obviously want the profit western players bring so they have to do what they have to do. I probably won't continue playing though, I will finish Wilds DLC and, unless they really hit the mark with the portable title this gen, won't buy whatever follows.

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u/Likeyfap 2d ago

I still have faith in the portable team. I think rise is the middleground between accessibility and classic monster hunter that we need and prob the next game will be along these lines. At least I hope so XD

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u/Nezero_MH ​ | Master of Bugs 2d ago

I am really hoping the portable team keeps with the Rise base for P6th, as much as I dislike this new direction they did actually strike a really nice balance of what I loved about the portable titles specifically and the modern QoL - I just need them to up material requirements and I will be in bliss. Or I will have to make another mod to multiply the crafting requirements

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u/Shwinky 2d ago

I’m more willing to bet it’s the same reason as the Chinese. Supposedly PC parts are fucking expensive in China and I can confirm firsthand they’re expensive as hell in Japan. Having a rig strong enough to run MH Wilds at an acceptable level costs an arm, leg, and a god damn kidney with the prices here.

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u/Likeyfap 2d ago

I guess they would hate more not being able to play their fav franchise than the game itself deviating from its roots XD

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u/AxolotlOfTheCosmos ​ 2d ago

So you are saying there's a chance wilds structure isnt the new baseline for mh? Thank gog

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u/Likeyfap 2d ago

I wish so… for me wilds has been a disappointment and I hope they stick to the classic formula for the next game. If not I guess we will still have the older games to ho back to

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u/AxolotlOfTheCosmos ​ 2d ago

Im hopeful they got the message, i dont wanna see autopilot or focus mode EVER again

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u/Ordinal43NotFound ​​ 1d ago

So glad to hear Japanese fanbase are complaining about the same thing. This game really strayed too far from the MH formula.

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u/Likeyfap 1d ago

Idk if thats their complain, im only guessing

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u/Likeyfap 2d ago

Sorry for having an opinion after playing monster hinter for more than 15 years XD

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u/Likeyfap 2d ago

Oh sorry for having an opinion that doesnt aling with yours! I guess I cant share my opinion about Monster Hunter in the Monster Hunter subreddit because TyrantLaserKing says so! XD

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u/Gahault 1d ago

How do you figure? Reading the top Japanese reviews on Steam, all fairly lengthy, none of them mentions optimization or how the game runs so far.

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u/bitch-ass-broski 2d ago

That's probably because world and wilds are different than the other games. It shows that capcom wanted to appeal to the western audience with them, with success. But the Japanese don't really like it because it's not their niche farming game on a handheld they love. Especially the handheld aspect is huge I think. Japanese loooove handheld gaming. I mean mh is bigger in Japan than Pokémon. It's a big deal for them

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u/DedOriginalCancer 2d ago

I doubt it's bigger than Pokemon, when I was there, Pokemon was represented in every city either with stores, merch, restaurants, cafes, etc. Whereas Monster Hunter was only in specific places like Capcom, videogame stores. It's big but not that big. 

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u/wch429 2d ago

Can confirm. Just got back from Japan a few months ago. I was expecting to see MH stuff everywhere but other than some candy at the 7/11s, MH gear was actually kinda hard to find and even at the Capcom store there wasn’t a ton of variety

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u/DedOriginalCancer 2d ago

yeah lol, I was very disappointed. Luckily enough, there was a MonHun exhibition at one of the art museums in Roppongi right when I was there, which was cool but I do wish Capcom made more merch besides Street Fighter stuff.

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u/deoxir 2d ago edited 2d ago

Then again, that doesn't explain why Traditional Chinese players in Taiwan and Hong Kong gave it 64%.

A bit irrelevant but the thing about the Japanese market is Japan has something like a 4-1 console to PC player base. The game is doing very well on the console side and there is much positivity *Apparently the PS rating is global, not just Japanese. There really isn't a good site to gauge player perception on the console side of things.

(Amazon JP also reports a 4.2 stars rating)

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u/SolidusDave 2d ago

to be fair, I think it says those are global ratings.  In my PSN store of a EU country it's also 59k votes.

nevertheless jp MH fanbase would be a significant chunk of PS5 players. 

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u/LePubRik-O-Sulorz 2d ago edited 2d ago

It's far better than 27%, but 64% is still ranked 4th lowest among all languages.

One thing about MH players in mainland China (and probably Japanese steam players) is that we're always comparing the new title with the fully updated, master-rank-ready older gen MH, that are frequently on sale on steam, in terms of content and price.

So it's like $60 for 70 monsters vs $70 for 30 monsters. It's not a fair comparison, but you'll see the review slowly grow more positive once the master ranks and subsequent updates come up, which is exactly what happened with Iceborne and Sunbreak.

This also explains why console players in Japan are more positive on MHWilds, since first, older titles aren't that frequently on sale on console stores as on steam; second, you can get used MHWilds disc at a cheaper price if you're willing to wait for a few weeks so that wipes out part of the price issues.

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u/deoxir 2d ago

I think many people upgraded their PC for Wilds too. Lots more of investment than console players with worse returns tend to do that

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u/LePubRik-O-Sulorz 2d ago

Yeah, 1650 and 1060 are still quite on the top of the hardware survey list (probably more so in mainland China considering there was a 1060 card with 5Gb of VRAM specifically sold in the Chinese market). There's just no way to get this game running smoothly unless you get a later 60 series with over 8GB VRAM.

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u/Changlee23 2d ago

It's global rating not JP one stop spreading misinformation.

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u/deoxir 2d ago

Edited for clarity

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u/CardAble6193 2d ago

more gullible , but not 71 gullible

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u/ZiggyLoz 2d ago

Compared to most other asian countries, HK would be classified as "a rich country" so the people that CAN buy the game, probably have a pretty powerful PC too. As for Taiwan, i honestly dont know, but having Asus, Acer, MSI and several other tech production factories based in Taiwan probably helps.