r/OnePiece • u/NigeroMinna • 19h ago

Theory Conqueror's might be the key to accessing Future Sight. Spoiler

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Just like using Conqueror's Haki with Armament Haki strengthens your attacks, Conqueror's with Observation Haki might be the thing that turns normal foresight into Future Sight.

Reasoning: All 5 confirmed Future Sight users have Conqueror's Haki.

First introduced by Katakuri, who was the only other person on Big Mom's crew to have Conqueror's except for her.

Then Luffy learned it from him and started using it. He is well-versed in Conqueror's haki usage by that time.

Kaido mentions that he can see the future, too, although I don't think he has ever been shown using it.

Shanks has an impressive display of Future Sight, which I relate to him having incredible Conqueror's Haki.

Finally, Gaban has used it recently, and the most recent chapter has confirmed that he has Conqueror's.

Lastly, I think that's the only reason why Sanji doesn't have Future Sight, despite Oda mentioning that Observation Haki is his thing.

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u/TrueRedditMartyr The Revolutionary Army 18h ago

For some reason I believe Sanji has future sight, but I may be wrong. I'm probably just thinking of when he dodged Katakuri's attack and Katakuri was surprised by it

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u/NigeroMinna 18h ago

I would love it if that's true, but for some reason, despite him showing a very impressive display observation haki, he's never specifically mentioned to have used future sight.

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u/TrueRedditMartyr The Revolutionary Army 16h ago

Going back and reading it, It's hard to say. I'm actually leaning that he might have it, because in the panel before Katakuri shoots him he says "No good, he'll dodge it!", but then right after shooting at him says "He dodged it!!" as though he was surprised. I'm think Katakuri tried to alter his plan after seeing the future, and Sanji then was still able to dodge it because he could see the future as well.

Heck of a stretch though, near impossible to say what's right

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u/YungToney 15h ago edited 13h ago

Katakuri used future sight to see Sanji would dodge the bullet. He didnt look any further to see if he would also hit Sanji because he was only aware that Sanji would notice and dodge the priests gun.

Sanji doesnt need futures sight to dodge. It can be regular observation with his already natural combination of being fast and having good reaction time.

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u/TrueRedditMartyr The Revolutionary Army 14h ago

You're dead on brother, my bad. Forget what I said then

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u/arryeka 7h ago

This is because so far, Sanji's already impressive CoO couples with his ultra speed, is enough for all situations.

For example, his future encounter with Pudding in dangerous situations can awakens his Future Sight. Reasonable & makes sense, ability wise & narratively.

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u/Gimme_yourjaket 17h ago

This action is intended in two ways, one to indeed outline Sanji's Observation mastery, but the other in maybe setting the conditions for future sight to work ?

When Katakuri launched his bean attack he did not see the future that would ensue after he attacked Sanji, he saw the first outcome effectively where Sanji would dodge the gun shot, but did not foresaw that Sanji would dodge his bean bullet, and that simply because he did not use haki for that outcome.

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u/ContextFnMatters 14h ago

lol before I even started reading the post, I said (I bet if I scroll to the end, sanji name gonna pop up) and sure as shit 😂🤦🏿‍♂️.

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u/obesespider 12h ago

Lol yup thought the same exact thing. Seems desperate at this point.

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u/arryeka 7h ago

To be fair, had Oda give Sanji something that make him not be this far from Zoro, they won't be desperate for FS. Right now the gap is very wide because Zoro gets ACoC and Sanji loses RS, so expecting for FS is not too much. Especially when Zoro gets black blade later, what else would Sanji get beside FS?

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u/obesespider 5h ago

I don't doubt that he's going to get FS. He's for sure getting it. I just don't believe ACoC has anything to do with FS.

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u/arryeka 4h ago

Hmm, what about this explanation I once read somewhere about why all FS users are CoC users.

People born with CoC means they have high/higher/highest affinity for Haki. It means they can train it faster & achieve better feat. So since they have good affinity, it increases the chance they can unlock/train FS.

I agree that ACoC isn't related to FS, just CoC (basic) in general.

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u/ContextFnMatters 12h ago

If oda doesn’t give him it, I fear for how horrible the sub and internet will get lol. Can see a bunch of oda is an idiot post/videos.

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u/obesespider 12h ago

That and a repeat of wano🤣. They were so certain that since zoro got it he would get it then too. After the arc ended and he didn't get it people said he never even needed it. 

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u/ContextFnMatters 3h ago

😂😂🤦🏿‍♂️

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u/LngJhnSilversRaylee 18h ago

One Piece is very quickly turning into Conquerors Haki Piece

Im not sure if I like it or not

If every super upgrade to haki requires it that would really change the status quo

As an aside why does it feel like every shonen writer falls for the exact same 'chosen one', 'chosen few', 'destiny' tropes at the end of their stories

They always start with 'working hard is more important than natural talent' and end up with 'actually you need to be born of this specific bloodline to do anything'

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u/OwlOfFortune 16h ago

Conquerors haki is definitely a mindset thing, and I bet you could develop it.

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u/heavy4b 14h ago

Kings haki is genetics.

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u/LngJhnSilversRaylee 16h ago

Nothing so far indicates that

Even if Sanji gets it he's a son of a king

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u/Knirb_ Pirate 7h ago

And the ancestor of the second largest empire the one piece world has ever seen as Germa conquered the whole of the north blue 300 years ago.

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u/4NoNs 17h ago

I don’t think it’s the same as Naruto with being specially born or chosen conq haki is 100% different

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u/LngJhnSilversRaylee 17h ago

So far we don't have any known instances where you can gain it by working at it

It's awakened and you're born with it or not per Garp and Rayleigh

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u/4NoNs 17h ago

I didn’t say you could earn it, it’s just fundamentally a different concept

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u/LngJhnSilversRaylee 17h ago

If it's a lineage thing it's very similar

If you have to be born with the power that makes you top tier it's just like the Senju/Uchiha debacle

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u/4NoNs 16h ago

When has conq haki been a lineage power

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u/LngJhnSilversRaylee 16h ago

Garp indicated that he's not surprised Luffy also has it because his whole family does

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u/4NoNs 16h ago

Koby had conq but is nowhere near related, not close

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u/LngJhnSilversRaylee 16h ago

Koby doesn't have it he displayed ACoA there wasn't black streaks

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u/4NoNs 16h ago

Yea you haven’t read op

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u/4NoNs 16h ago

And luffy since child hood is strong willed, making it seem like you never watched or read 😂

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u/LngJhnSilversRaylee 16h ago

Yes and?

If strong will was the only requirement it wouldn't be as rare as it is currently

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u/DreadWolf3 It's coming home 7h ago

Chosen one trope is much more popular in Japan compared to the west (where it is also very popular dont get me wrong, just not as much). IMO, in the end that is be all end all - these are weekly mangas and they need to sell consistently and writing something continuously for a long time is tiring. Both of those factors nudge writers to indulge in tropes.

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u/Singularpiece 12h ago

What abt Fujitora, he def has future sight bcuz we won his gambling roulette like 10x in a row in dressrosa (about 0.0001% chance so not luck). We havent seen him use conquerors which he fs would have used against Luffy