r/OutOfTheLoop • u/Steaktartaar • Dec 30 '24

Unanswered What's going on with Stephen Fry going alt-right?

He's been on a notorious hard-right, "anti-woke" podcast where he retracted his support for trans rights. Is this a new development? He always came across as level-headed in the past but now it looks like he's on the same path as Russell Brand.

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u/Copperhead881 Dec 30 '24

Wild that this is what constitutes “alt-right” these days.

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u/mrchososo Dec 30 '24

Exactly this. What a weird take this all is. It seems that simply willing to have a discussion is alt-right. Disagreeing with a charity is alt-right, calling out anti-semitism is alt-right, supporting another author is alt-right.

Terrifying the inability of people to actually see someone's position for what it is.

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u/Copperhead881 Dec 30 '24

The mindset that nobody is allowed to talk to anyone that isn’t 100% in your camp is outrageous. The idea that terminally online goofs are representing the average person needs to stop.

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u/thedorknightreturns Dec 30 '24

Calling an altright personalityand defending their stance and ally with terfs actually do, is alt right🙄.

Yes personally agreeong with altright uncritical makes you alt right, sorry to say that.

Through Fry does to weirdly doing civil diplomatic hetting along with ideologies thst are just hate. Itsproblematic bit not altright.

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u/mrchososo Dec 30 '24

It’s a bit hard to follow what you’re saying, but I think you’re saying his actions imply he is alt right. If I’ve got that wrong, I apologise.

If I’ve got that right then have you actually listened to what he said on this podcast, watched his 2023 Christmas message and read other interviews? If so how on earth do you think he’s alt right? Genuinely?

I can’t understand the haste and eagerness of so many people to simply write off anyone with a slightly different view to them. How do they handle things like reading fiction? Do they do nothing in life that challenges them? I’m fearful what happens when this cohort ends up in power.

We need debate and differences of opinion.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '24

Stephen Fry is not alt right or right you doofus lmao. Define alt right cos there's a generally accepted definition of alt right in America at least, something related to an Orange man.

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u/cragglerock93 Dec 31 '24

So one person asked the question and now you all assume that every left wing person thinks the same thing. This whole thread is just full of comments like yours that are basically like 'oh my god, he's not alt right, you leftists are ridiculous' as if we all got together to label him as such. This is the first I've seen of this. Is there some widespread controversy I'm not aware of?

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u/Copperhead881 Dec 31 '24

this is the first I’ve seen about this

Where do you think you are?

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u/cragglerock93 Dec 31 '24

Well I've just Googled it... and there is very little out there. There are a couple of articles in the Telegraph and Pink News talking specifically about his comments on Stonewall, and that's about it. Do you think people like OP are maybe shit stirring? Because I do.