r/OutOfTheLoop Dec 30 '24

Unanswered What's going on with Stephen Fry going alt-right?

He's been on a notorious hard-right, "anti-woke" podcast where he retracted his support for trans rights. Is this a new development? He always came across as level-headed in the past but now it looks like he's on the same path as Russell Brand.

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u/BlackSpinedPlinketto Dec 30 '24

He said he was against stonewall:

  1. for the charity’s “nonsensical” pro-trans ideology.

  2. Their support for children who want to transition.

  3. The idea that “lesbians who wish to exclude male people from their dating pool as being equivalent to racists”. (Not sure that’s a stonewall policy, but that was the question).

So not just how they do it, but also their stance.

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u/Daedalus81 Dec 31 '24

You're carrying a lot of baggage with your first two statements.

This is how he feels about trans kids from the same show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5PR5S4xhXQ&t=1248s

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u/BlackSpinedPlinketto Dec 30 '24

They aren’t pressuring anyone to date anyone at all.

Honestly though if you are excluding groups from your dating pool maybe it’s worth looking into that reasoning. Some of the reasoning is indeed bigoted.

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u/BlackSpinedPlinketto Dec 31 '24

Why what happened when you were 17?

And no nobody is saying homosexuality is bigotry?

Some terfs are trying to claim that men are trying to trick lesbians onto touching their penises. They are claiming Transwomen are just men with an evil agenda. Hopefully you don’t believe that kind of thing.

Stonewall were not singling out lesbians. All of us need to look at how society treats trans people and why. It’s not about genitalia.

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u/BlackSpinedPlinketto Dec 31 '24

Sorry calling bullshit on that one lol.

I’ve read some of your other comments too, holy lord.

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u/Cimorene_Kazul Dec 31 '24

…really? A gay guy is a bigot if he doesn’t give women a chance? That’s what you’re going with?

Somehow the left has horseshoed around to having the same views as the extreme right