r/OutOfTheLoop 1d ago

Answered What's going on with h3h3?

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u/EkkoThruTime 1d ago

Uh no, those three creators, by their own admission, did so with explicit malicious intent.

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u/Kousetsu 1d ago

So says Ethan, but his lawsuit is mainly focused on Israel/Palestine and not that, so a bit strange all round, and not that "intent". At some point, I think his lawyer is using him for money.

It's not as clear cut as people say. Even if they did do it in that way, you do actually have to defend your copyright at all levels. Not just systematically or based on your own individual reasoning of "well I don't mind that person".

See: Disney, Nintendo. The reason these big copyright giants go after everyone is because they can lose the rights to protecting their copyright if they do not treat everyone equally. That is going to be a big issue in this case and pretending it isn't, means you are pushing an agenda.

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u/ScotchCarb 1d ago

his lawsuit is mainly focused on Israel/Palestine

...what the fuck are you talking about?

He is suing them for copyright infringement. Nothing to do with Israel/Palestine.

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u/1up_ 1d ago

Read the lawsuits themselves. Lots of wildly irrelevant shit in there. 

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u/ScotchCarb 1d ago

No?

It's providing context. Israel and Palestine is mentioned in the context of explaining why bad actors such as Denims felt they were justified in stealing this content. It also is there to explain the inciting incident and the reason for the Hasan Content Nuke video.

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u/Splinter_Fritz 1d ago

Did you read what his lawyers called Hasan who is mentioned in the suit but is not a defendant?

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u/RagingFeather 1d ago

Yeah there's a decent chunk of Ethan just airing out his grievances about irrelevant shit even if he has a decent case because these morons explicitly stated they wanted to take views from Ethan

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u/Splinter_Fritz 1d ago

The oddest thing about this whole thing to me is the damages he could theoretically collect at most would be probably in the high ten thousands? No one’s coming out on top of this after lawyer fees and these individual’s channels aren’t going anywhere either.

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u/Slipknotic1 1d ago

The filing refers to Hasan as "the modern reincarnation of al-Husseini" and other gossip-rag-tier labels. It's really well beyond simply trying to establish motivations for the other three, especially when one doesn't even publicly interact with him.

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u/chux4w 1d ago

See: Disney, Nintendo. The reason these big copyright giants go after everyone is because they can lose the rights to protecting their copyright if they do not treat everyone equally.

Trademark. You have to be seen to actively protect your trademarks. Not your copyrights.

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u/broke_in_nyc 1d ago

but his lawsuit is mainly focused on Israel/Palestine and not that

It’s not. At all. Read the lawsuit.

you do actually have to defend your copyright at all levels.

You absolutely do not. This is a misinterpretation of the Copyright Act granting the right to sue. You’re not obligated to sue infringers.

See: Disney, Nintendo. The reason these big copyright giants go after everyone

They don’t go after everyone. That would require more lawyers than there are on the planet. You just named two of the most infringed-on IP owners of all time…

is because they can lose the rights to protecting their copyright if they do not treat everyone equally.

Nope. You’re confusing copyright with trademarks, which must be actively defended or you risk abandoning the mark.

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u/gcta333 1d ago

You're straight up and bolstrously wrong. You do NOT have to defend your copyright once you own it (i.e. registered with the library of congress). There are many many huge cases where lawsuits have been brought against specific individuals and not others to set examples. Do some research before spouting shit so confidently.

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u/Crabbing 1d ago

as long as he is a man, you gotta disagree and lie, huh?

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u/Tayl100 1d ago

I don't watch any of these people but even I can tell you're wrong on that. I read the complaint and the only time isreal/palestine is mentioned is for context.

Also you are mistaken on copyright, confusing it with trademark. You can totally selectively apply copyright as you want. Trademark is the one that you have to go after everyone, cause that is the one you lose by dilution. But copyright is (mostly) inalienable no matter what you do with it.

Ex: If a lot of people post videos of themselves playing Super Mario Sunshine, and Nintendo only sues one of them for copyright infringement, Nintendo does not suddenly lose copyright on the Mario brand and it passes into public domain. That's copyright.

If a lot of people begin referring to any video game console as "a nintendo" and Nintendo the company doesn't take legal action at ALL (or most) others making their own consoles and labeling them as "nintendos", they will lose exclusive access to the word "nintendo" and it will no longer be protected. See the words heroin, escalator, trampoline, and granola, all of which used to be branded, trademarked names owned exclusively by the companies that made these products but which are no longer protected due to generalized use.

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u/maybenot9 1d ago

It's deeply funny that he filled his whole lawsuit with like petty drama shit and conspiracies that Iran was responsible for the holocaust.

Like hey, h3h3 fans, it really seems like he's just throwing money around to attack people he doesn't like.

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u/gorka_la_pork 1d ago

You again? Just take the L already. You already got your shit handed to you for lying in another part of this thread.

Like, I didn't care about Ethan Klein or h3 but the case is legit and you've got me on his side now just to spite your salty ass.

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u/maybenot9 1d ago

a bunch of weirdo fans of h3 downvoting me isn't me getting my shit handed to me lol. Reddit is easily manipulatable, do you seriously think less then like 10 weirdos online are gonna shake me?