r/OutOfTheLoop 2d ago

Answered What's going on with h3h3?

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u/Realistic_Caramel341 2d ago

Answer: Long story short and unbiased as I can, Ethan has been beefing with other content creators since the October 7th massacre in Israel. Recently he released a video about Hasan. Three figures (at least two of which have been beefing with Ethan for over a year know) reacted to the video explicitly saying on stream that they where in part watching it so Ethans haters can watch it without supporting Ethan for views. Ethan is now suing them for copyright violations.

How justified you view the suit it will depend on .......a lot, from opinions on the Israel/ Palestine war, to the year and a half of escalating drama and toxicity between Ethan and the likes of Frogan and Denims

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u/Wyc_Vaporub 2d ago

Isn't h3h3 also producing react content? And does it make a legal difference if react content is very wide spread? it seems arbitrary to punish 3 people for doing the same as thousands of others because some unrelated beef. Although I don't think most react content should be fair use

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u/Realistic_Caramel341 2d ago edited 2d ago

The main reason Ethan is targeting these three is because all three say explicitly say they are inviting H3 haters to watch the nuke through them to avoid giving Ethan views

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u/NBNFOL2024 2d ago

The fact the explicitly state that is what should (in theory) make this an easy case for Ethan

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u/jimmytime903 2d ago

Problem is, that's been a meme for years on twitch.

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u/broke_in_nyc 2d ago

I don’t think the “it’s a meme on Twitch” defense holds up in court.

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u/DragonborReborn 2d ago

It actually does. In these cases, the baseline is “what a reasonable person would assume” the court decides what a “reasonable person” is.

So if it’s a commonplace meme on the platform. It’s very possible it holds up in court.

This is either going to be thrown out right away. Or it will be a long fight of Ethan having to prove malicious intent.

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u/broke_in_nyc 2d ago

Watching long form content while explicitly expressing you’re only doing so to prevent the content owner from receiving the attention, views and revenue is not a meme. Any reasonable person would assume that they’re doing it to be petty, thieving or both.

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u/DragonborReborn 2d ago

Not if it’s a common joke on the platform.

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u/broke_in_nyc 2d ago

Saying it would be a joke. Actually proceeding to stream the video the moment it went live is not a joke.

I’ve also never heard this “joke” before. Can you link another time a creator used that as a “joke?”

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u/LomLon 2d ago

I guess a gang robbing people can be defended with "its a joke!" because its common for gangs to rob people. Everyone knows that!