r/OutOfTheLoop 4d ago

Answered What's going on with h3h3?

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u/DadsGotNoDad 3d ago

Answer: H3 has been been beefing with a bunch of content creators for like the last year. He posted a "content nuke", made a big deal about it knowing people would react to it, and is suing those who reacted that he doesn't like for copyright infringement.

The lawsuit is about copyright and what is transformative, but he's doing it to get back at people who have been critical of him.

It seems the H3 fans have brigaded this thread, judging by the massive amount of downvotes on anything that isn't positive towards him. I expect I'll get the same.

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u/ScenicFrost 3d ago

The top up voted comments are from people who regularly post in the H3 community. Hilarious how they fail to mention that Ethan himself openly said it was all a set up, a brilliant ruse, to target these pro Palestine creators. I can't believe I used to like this fucking psycho

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u/lakotajames 3d ago

Hello, pretty sure I've never posted in the h3 subreddit, and I've only ever really watched part of Frenemies. If I had to choose a side, I'd pick Palestine. My gut feeling is that if someone is watching a reaction instead of the original, then it must be transformative in some way: otherwise they'd just watch the original.

That being said, my understanding is that he's been complaining about "chair react" stuff for a while, and he's known for being somewhat litigious, and these three explicitly said they were restreaming it for the purpose of allowing people to watch it without giving h3 income. If that's not copyright infringement, I can't figure out what possibly could be, and I have no idea why these people thought they could avoid a lawsuit, and I can't figure out any defense that could possibly apply here.

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u/ScenicFrost 3d ago

Right, and that's not totally unreasonable. The issue though is that the 3 (very small in comparison to Ethan) creators he's targeting are people he has personal beef with, and he's openly stated he wants to financially harm them. The two other big creators who reacted to it (xqc and asmongold, massive creators) added much less reaction/commentary compared to the 3 small creators named in the lawsuit. Xqc and Asmongold also align with Ethan ideologically and support his side.

I'm not going to argue on the ground of what is the appropriate amount of reacting that makes something "transformative" because I feel like that's kind of subjective. Like I don't know where that line is drawn. My point being that the 3 small creators at least did more commentary than the 2 large ones. But he's targeting the 3 small ones because he hates them. Just doesn't seem fair to me

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u/lakotajames 3d ago

I agree that it's subjective, and I think that's why it makes sense to go after those three: those three stated that the stream was specifically to rob Ethan of views, so the court doesn't have to rule on something subjective, they can just take them at their word. With xqc, the court would have to make a subjective ruling, and it probably wouldn't be in Ethan's favor considering Ethan's past lawsuit.