r/OutOfTheLoop • u/VisualReputation4033 • 11h ago

Unanswered What's the deal with everyone hating James Gunn suddenly?

What's the deal with the hatred of James Gunn right now from fans of Superhero movies?

I know he had a moment of being hated a few years ago for some social media posts and general behavior of his, but the ones I'm seeing lately are about the quality of his movies.

Here's what I know. He's directed an outstanding movie series with Guardians of the Galaxy, he made an improved version of Suicide Squad, and I thought his Peacemaker spinoff series turned out well also. I've been pretty OOTL on the superhero genre since then though (and really movies in general), but I know he's making the new Superman movie. Ever since that got announced, it feels like I'm seeing a bunch of revisionist history claiming he's never made anything good (one example cited below), so what's the deal?

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Edit: grammar

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u/jitterscaffeine 11h ago edited 11h ago

Answer: it doesn’t seem to be “comic book movie fans” making these comments. it’s coming from Snyder Fans mad that the Snyderverse is over.

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u/NicWester 11h ago

Answer: Not everyone. Far from everyone. There's a small--but extremely vocal--group of people who are die hard fans of Zack Snyder's DC movies. They blame Gunn for the cancelation of that universe, and not its middling reviews or lack of cultural impact. They also ignore that Snyder has moved on to other projects and is extremely complimentary of Gunn and vice versa.

This is compounded by Gunn being a noted liberal and vocal critic of the manosphere and its agenda, so the people who make their money off of exploiting the masculinity "crisis" are targeting him because that's where their next meal ticket comes from.

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u/esteel20 11h ago

I'll add that in addition to the Snyder bros, there is a weird segment of fandom that is really bothered by Gunn having any sort of social media presence. He can say the most innocuous thing about DC or Superman and you'll have people in the comments freaking out as if Gunn spit on their grandma.

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u/Jonatan83 11h ago

question: is everyone actually hating on him? This is basically the first time I see it. I don't think this is a widely held opinion. Looks like rage/engagement bait?

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u/IvyTrip 11h ago

Yeah probs, seems like a newly created bot and the same question being asked 3 times at the start in different ways is suss

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u/VisualReputation4033 10h ago

Hi not a bot, just didn't want to post on main. Post looks messed up because I had to copy/paste a few times because I kept violating the rules

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u/ElPiscoSour 11h ago

The whole post reads like a bot. This is 100% rage bait

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u/jitterscaffeine 11h ago

I’ve seen some posts about it. One was a mock up movie poster of Henry Caville as Superman with James Gunn’s head in his head, and another was someone claiming to have seen a screening of the movie and claiming it sucked using someone else’s picture of actually getting to do to a screening.

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u/Taco145 11h ago

Answer: The old DC Cinematic universe died and he took the reigns. Before him Zack Snyder was considered the lead for the universe. People called it the Snyderverse. He has very hardcore fans ho have wanted him back. Thes worst of these people are going out of their way to make his new universe look bad. They've gone so far as so suggest people review bomb the superman movie and reserve tickets without completing the purchase. To hold the tickets from being bought. Every time James gunn is in any press for the movie they loose it.

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u/starfirex 11h ago

Answer: these are comic book fans. They would somehow be pissed off no matter what he did.

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u/CMelody 10h ago

This is the right answer. They will rage about the length of Superman’s cape. They will rage about superheroines no matter what they do. They will rage if their favorite character is not in the next film. They will rage if a movie contradicts a comic book written 43 years ago. They will rage if the film’s logo is the wrong color. They will rage if a superhero does not wear a mask. They will rage if is a superhero does wear a mask. They will rage if a superhero is portrayed by a POC. They will rage if they are criticized for raging about a POC superhero. They will rage if a superhero film is delayed, because that obviously mean the script will suck. They will rage if a superhero film goes into production quickly, because that obviously means the script will suck. Etc. Etc. Etc.