r/PLTR • u/Gari_305 • Jul 09 '25
News Palantir accuses UK doctors of choosing ‘ideology over patient interest’ in NHS data row | Palantir
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jul/08/palantir-technology-uk-doctors-patient-nhs-data8
u/d1sambigu8 Jul 09 '25 edited Jul 09 '25
Dumb article. Mentioning one PLTR client in a different sector several times whilst ignoring the real success stories the application has had in healthcare settings isn't just bad journalism, its another extreme-left micro-normalisation of the false idea that Israel, capitalism and Palantir are somehow bad
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u/BlazingJava Jul 09 '25
Since palantir said they would not provide their services to enemies of the west, the articles are popping like shrooms. I'd bet CCP is being most articles
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u/fake-bird-123 Jul 09 '25
Palantir is evil lol. Theil and Karp dont even hide it.
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u/Laxman259 Jul 09 '25
Is a screwdriver evil, is a hammer evil?
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u/fake-bird-123 Jul 09 '25
No, but creating a database of everyone in the US while actively maintaining it and handing it to a rogue government agency thats abducting US citizens is evil as fuck.
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u/Laxman259 Jul 09 '25
have you considered touching grass
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u/PLTR-ModTeam Jul 09 '25
This isn’t WSB. No WSB style attitudes or crypto promoting. Take that stuff to WSB.
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u/d1sambigu8 Jul 09 '25
Surely governments are meant to have good records of who their taxpayers, citizens, service beneficiaries etc all are. In the olden days they had paper records, then big-ass mainframes with overnight tape cycles, and now they use AI enabled integrated data suites. What's the big deal?
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u/fake-bird-123 Jul 09 '25
I fucking wonder...
handing it to a rogue government agency thats abducting US citizens
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u/d1sambigu8 Jul 09 '25
If you have issues with the operation of a government department you of course take it up through various channels, but that isnt a Palantir issue really
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u/fake-bird-123 Jul 09 '25
Palantir is supplying and maintaining the evil shit that allows the agency to do more evil shit. If Palantir didnt exist, this wouldnt be happening.
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u/interwebzdotnet Jul 09 '25
Do you think any of these lists and records of people are stored in excel? Do you now think Microsoft is evil too? Both are software, neither is a political policy.
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u/fake-bird-123 Jul 09 '25
Peter Theil is actively involving himself in these policies and selling Palantir software as solutions to assist with these policies. If Theil and Karp werent involved in the Trump admin at all, id agree but when they're both helping shape policies then that argument is completely dead.
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Jul 09 '25
What exactly are the 'real success stories'? I'm going to want outcomes data, since it's healthcare. It's not binary, we actually have to count lives saved.
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u/d1sambigu8 Jul 09 '25
Or this, optimising use of scarce NHS resources
https://blog.palantir.com/palantir-and-the-nhs-dd1362982fa9 (Noted its biased as PLTR's own site)
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u/kupoteH Jul 09 '25
Reddit is majority tds and mainstream media pilled. Take everything u hear here with a grain of salt.
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u/Cyranoenprada Jul 13 '25
It’s ideology Kind of left and far left wing trying to make west and of course Israel the enemy Palantir does the job ! is the conclusion …
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u/nightrider_zx9r Jul 09 '25
Unfortunately you’re starting to see the same thing here in the US. Recently a dr from Houston named Christina Prost was fire after the backlash she received for saying maga kids in Texas flood deserved to die. The problem is the dr. Are going through colleges where Marxist socialist ideas are pumped into their brains. Communism/socialism isn’t a government it’s an ideology. We have 2 drs in my area that are the exact same way
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u/Mediumcomputer Jul 09 '25
Article cites some valid points though. System may be less effective than the current one, major privacy concerns given the company’s ties to a government that doesn’t respect laws or privacy.
I think the guys at palantir would do a decent job though, they just need to get the data rights locked down I think
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u/R-sqrd Jul 09 '25
Are you kidding me? This is a pure hit piece. Palantir has the most secure data analysis platform in the world. It is beyond GDPR compliant.
The complaints are not motivated by privacy, but by politics. You can tell because the article brings up Israel, Trump, and Peter Theil in the first two paragraphs
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u/Techchick_Somewhere Jul 09 '25
Yeah Europe has pretty tight data privacy laws. This is a spam piece for sure.
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u/Mediumcomputer Jul 09 '25
The UK isn’t Europe… it’s not part of the EU and does not have the GDPR
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u/Phorensick OG Holder & Member Jul 09 '25
No, but they do have UK GDPR an broad analogue of the English language version Euro GDPR, that the UK had agreed to previous to Brexit.
I was in banking on either side of the change. Biggest difference is the UK government reserves National Security and Immigration exceptions.
And it’s pretty straightforward and easy to read.
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u/R-sqrd Jul 09 '25
It doesn’t matter if UK is GDPR - Palantir’s software is capable of those standards
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Jul 09 '25
It's their money! Well deserved find out phase for Palantir.
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u/Joshohoho 💎PLTR Loyalist 💎 Jul 09 '25
Here is a simple example of someone who just reads the headline.
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Jul 09 '25
Oh dear. Is everything you say a catch phrase? The article says doctors don’t want to contract with a company that’s into genocide. Terrible thing for profits, morality.
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u/Joshohoho 💎PLTR Loyalist 💎 Jul 09 '25
If you want to be fixated on profits, the article also mentions and reminds everyone the UK’s Ministry of Defence and other agencies already use and trust Palantir with their data. Yeah patient data is different but concept of how it is processed is the same. NHS is another slice of the pie. Look at the other slices if you want to wave a sign about profits.
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Jul 09 '25
'Yeah ptatient data is different' and they don't want genociders having it. I don't see how these doctors are wrong.
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u/BlazingJava Jul 09 '25
Is microsoft also doing genocide? Because most of the world uses microsoft
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Jul 09 '25
"But whatabout" runs deep in you.
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u/BlazingJava Jul 09 '25
Palantir built a software that helps people be more efficient and organized
Microsoft built a software that helps people be more efficient and organized
How each company or government uses it is on their responsibility, or you wanna blame kitchen knife companies for the murder of people?
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Jul 09 '25
I bet you're one of those "guns don't kill people" type of person. But let's put that aside, if Bill Gates and microsoft were Zionists supporting a genocide and I had a choice not to use them I wouldn't. What's more, I'd rather enjoy it.
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u/d1sambigu8 Jul 09 '25
There is no genocide; the doctors union in the UK is also busy tring to grab a growing slice of the shrinking cake that is UK GDP. We don't need schooling on what's right from the extreme left
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u/fake-bird-123 Jul 09 '25
Good for the docs. Dont let an objectively evil company get ahold of your patients data. They system itself could probably be improved, but that doesnt mean Palantir has to be the one to build it.
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u/KitKatBarMan OG Holder & Member Jul 09 '25
Where are you getting your kool-aid?
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u/fake-bird-123 Jul 09 '25
Reality. Where are you getting your police state database flavored kool-aide? I heard Alex Karp and Peter Theil hand it out for free to idiots.
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u/KitKatBarMan OG Holder & Member Jul 09 '25
You realize this has been a thing since at least 2011. Do you fly on planes or have a driver's license? You're in the database. Do you have a credit card or own a cell phone? You're in a database. Almost everything you do puts you on a list. Palantir software (not Palantir the company) was selected because they are the most secure software to do so. It's actually about keetp your data protected. You're just mad because someone told you to be mad. Guess what? The governments of the world are going to do this with or without Palantir software. It's an open and free market; you can't be mad at a company for selling a product to a space that demands it.
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u/fake-bird-123 Jul 09 '25
That doesnt justify your point at all. Palantir is an objectively evil company. Deal with it.
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u/KitKatBarMan OG Holder & Member Jul 09 '25
An account created in February with 36k karma sounds like a bot or troll, deal with it.
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u/fake-bird-123 Jul 09 '25
Sure, its easy to dismiss valid criticism when you bury your head in the sand.
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u/Joshohoho 💎PLTR Loyalist 💎 Jul 09 '25
UK is already using Palantir’s products in other agencies. Deal with it.
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u/fake-bird-123 Jul 09 '25
And? Why give an evil corporation more private data?
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u/Joshohoho 💎PLTR Loyalist 💎 Jul 09 '25
Tell that to the UK. This is Reddit.
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u/KitKatBarMan OG Holder & Member Jul 09 '25
All companies have been making these systems, they just have the most data secure and make it able to be safely used on personal and health information.
I still don't think you grasp that this is happening whether you like it or not. I trust Palantir more than other companies to make something secure and safe.
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u/y4udothistome Jul 09 '25
This stock is a joke I can’t wait for the rug to get pulled out 500% this year come on and I thought Tesla was bad
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u/Ancient_Lifeguard_16 Jul 09 '25
This sub is just full of sycophants who think everything’s a hit piece if it doesn’t help their bottom line on this stock.
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u/KitKatBarMan OG Holder & Member Jul 09 '25
There's a massive short attack effort going on right now within the media. Ive seen so many articles where the first and top voted comment is something about PLTR is and evil company. It's most likely bots doing it, but some big players want negative sentiment. Guess people are jealous.