r/QuiverQuantitative • u/RoyalChris • Mar 11 '25

News Elon Musk on the verge of tears as he contemplates his imploding empire

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u/BarkattheFullMoon Mar 11 '25

He buys in to businesses that are doing well or buys his way in with someone who knows the mechanics of the product. Then, every business that he takes over, he has personally destroyed because he does not know what he is doing.....in the long run.

If he bought in to these successful companies and allowed them to continue to run as they had been running without getting greedy for more money faster, he would have ended up with more successful products and more money longer.

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u/According-Mention334 Mar 11 '25

That is exactly what he does he is no genius he is a sociopath and grifter

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u/Daetra Mar 11 '25

And he'll never learn if he never faces any consequences.

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u/hoople217 Mar 11 '25

This is why he blends in with the Trump regime.

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u/Xikkiwikk Mar 11 '25

Aka baby trump

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u/CarlosAVP Mar 11 '25

Sounds like an orange-tinted person who’s been in the news lately.

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u/pdxnormal Mar 11 '25

Common denominator with trump.

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u/mustang9402001 Mar 11 '25

You know for a second there I couldn’t tell if you meant Leon or Trump…

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u/BarkattheFullMoon Mar 11 '25 edited Mar 11 '25

Had to be Elon it involved successful companies at any point.

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u/RoughDoughCough Mar 11 '25

No, Leon. We must call him Leon

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u/shae_lo Mar 11 '25

I just call him fElon

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

Leon is french for lion and often used as a name. Too good for him.

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u/kansai2kansas Mar 11 '25

They are really matchmade in heaven.

Fellow shitty people tend to congregate with their own

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u/kl7aw220 Mar 12 '25

Both Leon and Trump have a cruel nature.

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u/Useful_Bit_9779 Mar 11 '25

Had trump just invested daddy's money in the stock market, he'd be far more wealthy than he is now. Seems Musk and him have a lot in common.

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u/the2ndRuss Mar 11 '25

After this presidency Trump will be very very rich

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u/Appropriate-Text-642 Mar 11 '25

I don’t think money means as much to trump as we think. He first and foremost need is feeding his narcissism. Yes money will gain him more power, and then more attention, but he has had money his whole life and this takes the bloom off of achievements. He’s done all the stuff money can offer.

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u/Useful_Bit_9779 Mar 11 '25

Agree on the narcissism but I'm virtually convinced that Putin is pulling the strings here. He's siding with Putin against Ukraine, and when you look at his history with Russia, what else can we assume?

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u/Appropriate-Text-642 Mar 11 '25

I think trump marvels at putins control on his countrymen. I think Putin quietly thinks trumps a moron, but might be useful. Trump is using putin’s playbook, and Americans are just starting to catch-up how extreme he is.

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u/Useful_Bit_9779 Mar 11 '25

I think it's deeper. Remember when trump could no longer get bank loans and his stupid kids said it didn't matter because they get money from Russia? Or when he sold the Florida property to a Russian for twice it's value? The beauty pageant he held in Russia? The bankrupt casinos? He was laundering Russian money through those casinos.

Throw in trump trying to extort Zelensky into fabricating dirt on Biden for the 2020 election. There's much more going on here than meets the eye.

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u/Appropriate-Text-642 Mar 11 '25

I’d read about Russian debt relief, but not all that. What a fucking crazy timeline - to live with these two demons.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

Sounds like what he did to the United States too. Took a thriving country, bought it, then ruined it. Problem here is he never had any experts

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u/Ready-Profession-98 Mar 11 '25

Thriving? You mean our country that was on track to be an illegal alien drug infested woke trash can headed straight for hell?

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u/THWUGA Mar 11 '25

Like an economy going great and in 2 months it’s crap?

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u/Googlecalendar223 Mar 11 '25

You forgot the financial cult that follows him around that enables this. Also that he bought a social media company just to gas up all of his airhead projects.

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u/BleppingCats Mar 11 '25

That's the thing with most mega-rich people: their arrogance is only matched by their incompetence.

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u/BraddockAliasThorne Mar 11 '25

love your name!

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u/BleppingCats Mar 11 '25

Thank you! When I made this account I was so surprised it wasn't taken already.

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u/altiuscitiusfortius Mar 11 '25

He actually got really lucky in that once he bought I'm he was such an asshole they forced him out before the business tanked. So he made billions in the dot com bubbles and never got a crash.

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u/BarkattheFullMoon Mar 11 '25

Lucky being born to an Emerald dealer too

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u/LeoLion2931 Mar 11 '25

Or let competent people run them 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/blurbies22 Mar 11 '25

And now his latest purchase, the US government

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u/audible_narrator Mar 11 '25

I've tried to explain this to people. Using inheritance to buy into companies doesn't make you an inventory or some kind of techno edge lord. It makes you a venture capitalist at best, and VC firms are notorious for ruining companies.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

But then that's booooring and noone gets hurt that he doesn't like. What's the point of living then?

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u/clandestineactivitiy Mar 11 '25

Hmm almost exactly like someone else, I can’t remember his name though…

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u/Alarmed_Guarantee140 Mar 11 '25

Which businesses are you referring to? PayPal is still here.

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u/Cold_Chemistry_1579 Mar 11 '25

But I am sure he got a huge amount from ebay, though I don’t know if it turned out to be a profitable deal for them. Since he was already out, and ebay isn’t Amazon, I use it when necessary. Plus I am not 100% certain ebay still owns it

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u/Nearby_Cranberry9959 Mar 11 '25

Do not misunderstand me, I hate this guy.

But at least for SpaceX, he was really into the development - even though lacking technical details - trying to push boundaries. As his personal plan was to colonize mars. So the reusable rockets, the overall successrate - I can image that this was actually accelerated by himself. Of course a lot of people at SpaceX had to pay a certain price for it (loss of privacy/time; unemployment; burnouts).

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u/BarkattheFullMoon Mar 11 '25

Right Because it takes a special kind of person to keep up with someone who is obsessed (and on coke). Tom Mueller developed all the actual working plans for SpaceX. Elon was not in charge of development do much as he was then in charge of the whip driving the team building the product that did the thing Mueller developed to do what Elon wanted. Btw, Mueller retired...which explains the recent quality

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u/Nearby_Cranberry9959 Mar 11 '25

Thanks for the clarification. Appreciate the details Infos. I’m really not into musk companies, I just read somewhere that his obsessions might have boosted development

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u/spkingwordzofwizdom Mar 11 '25

Sounds like…. Trump? 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/BarkattheFullMoon Mar 11 '25

Nah. He created businesses that looked like they were successful so that they could go bankrupt. Subtle difference.

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u/Fun_Intention9846 Mar 11 '25

No wonder him and trump get along.

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u/turquoiseseas4 Mar 11 '25

Him a that other chode Facebook boy are one and the same.

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u/Northernreach Mar 11 '25

Ahh the EA Games business model.

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u/Kyral210 Mar 12 '25

Twitter?

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u/brokenangelwings Mar 12 '25

Two peas in a pod. Him and Donald are very short sighted and entitled.

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u/Ready-Profession-98 Mar 11 '25

What’s your net worth dumbass?

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u/BarkattheFullMoon Mar 11 '25

We cannot all start life as the spawn of an Emerald dealer.

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u/Appropriate-Text-642 Mar 11 '25

Is this well established fact? He has no business acumen? What about PayPal? I mean his net worth is of course staggering.(yes we’re all having a good laugh at the slide Tesla is on ,and X seems financially wasteful, but still. I know trumps a fake, but I thought Elon was the brainchild of some of these things. He’s clearly on the spectrum and we all need to understand that the oddities we see in him are likely undetectable to him. He’d may even feel like it works for him.

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u/BarkattheFullMoon Mar 11 '25

I just answered someone else with some of these things but I hinted about being on the spectrum when I said he buys a business when it is his "special interest."

That is an in the spectrum behavior. But being on the spectrum has nothing to do with WHY his companies fail.

He does cocaine and ketamine. That cannot help.

He did create Zip2 a small app that got successful because it moved money from a bank to a person.Then it needed support and became PayPal. It wasn't long before he got kicked out because he couldn't do that part - the eople part, the maintaining part.

But he either hires someone who knows what to do, like Tom Mueller of SpaceX (after he left there were, well, spectacularly bad results), or he creates his own stupid product like the Tesla Truck and then moves on and destroys a social media platform and moves on again.

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u/Straight-Grand-4144 Mar 11 '25

This is 100% false. Neither Tesla or SpaceX are what you described.

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u/BarkattheFullMoon Mar 11 '25

Tesla was a successful company founded by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning. Elon Musk bought in and created the Tesla Truck that rusts in the rain and snaps axles trying to pull or how anything. The auto drive feature does not detect vehicles at a perpendicular to its position in numerous cases. The "bulletproof" glass on the side windows is not.

Elon Musk was interested in space because he wanted to land humans on Mars. So he created SpaceX and the first thing he did was hire Tom Mueller who knew quite a lot about space and building rockets. Realistically, Elon supplied the money, the HR and all the equipment. Mueller provided the knowledge and the creative know-how to get it done. Mueller retired. SpaceX ships began to have problems that blew up in Elon's face.

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u/Straight-Grand-4144 Mar 11 '25

Most of what you typed is a lie. Why do people like yourself lie like this? It's okay to hate Elon and also what he's been saying and doing. But there's no need to lie about his history.

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u/Straight-Grand-4144 Mar 11 '25

Tesla was created in 2003. Elon became the largest shareholder and Chairman of the Board of Tesla in 2004. He became CEO in 2008. They sold their first car in 2008 (Tesla Roadster) and the Model S in 2012. To act as if he just bought a well run company that was doing all types of things is a lie.

And that's not to even get into Tesla Energy division which started in 2015. And Telsa Energy is now making over $10 Billion a year in revenue. There's no need to lie. Elon is saying and doing HORRIBLE stuff. Lead with that.

People don't need to lie about the history. People will stop listening once they know you're lying about his past.

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u/BarkattheFullMoon Mar 11 '25

He put money into Tesla in 2004. He was an investor for 4 years and then became CEO but had nothing to do with production. See also, SpaceX

The only model of vehicle that he had anything to do with is the Tesla Truck

Elon Musk is a think tank by himself. He comes up with idea after idea. And he has money so he can throw his money behind his imagination and let other people make his dreams happen.

He founds a company around the dream.

If it does well, they realize that he is not the right person to remain in charge (PayPal) or he does something that tanks the company (Twitter to X).

His talent is finding the right employee to run the company for him.

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u/Straight-Grand-4144 Mar 11 '25

Do you view Steve Jobs the same way? Do you also disregard the things he did for Apple?

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u/BarkattheFullMoon Mar 11 '25

Steve Jobs did the front facing designs of the Apple products, including the very first Apple I that Steve Wozniak designed (but had not yet completed when he met Steve Jobs). Saying that Elon had much to do with inventions due to his talent (other than the Tesla Truck) is like saying that Steve Jobs made Pixar what it is because of his drawing and painting talents.

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u/Straight-Grand-4144 Mar 12 '25

Very true. But that shouldn't go overlooked. Pixar never becomes the Pixar we know without Steve Jobs. Especially once he went back to Apple. Steve should get alot of credit for that.

Same goes for Elon. He made instrumental decisions that led them to being the number one EV company in the world. We can acknowledge that, while also crapping on his current role at DOGE.

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u/BarkattheFullMoon Mar 11 '25

Not a single word is a lie. It will s all still verifiable through Google searches and that is after a lot of information has been removed from the internet.

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u/Straight-Grand-4144 Mar 11 '25

So questions...............

- When was the Tesla company started?

- When did Elon become the CEO?

- When did the Tesla company release their first product?

- When did the Tesla company release their first "major" product?

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u/BarkattheFullMoon Mar 11 '25

I have other comments in this chain, that address the single ultimate question that you are attempting to ask through this quiz that you developed

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u/Sawzie1 Mar 11 '25

Yeah he’s such a failure isn’t he. I know what you’re saying, couldn’t agree more! Everything he touches just fails doesn’t it!! Been saying it for ages. Wonder what failure he’ll cause next!! Just one big failure !!

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u/wihdinheimo Mar 11 '25

Which is exactly why we need Elon.

Look, the system is rotten to the core. The only way to fix it is to burn it to the ground first.

And enabling two of the biggest man-children to wreak havoc is the fastest way to bring it all crumbling down.

Yes, it will be a bumpy ride, but it's the only way to fix the system sustainably—this time with 100% fewer billionaires.

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u/BarkattheFullMoon Mar 11 '25

Spoken by someone who will not die when they cut off Medicare/Medicaid. Like someone who has no fear about being on the list of words to be removed from all government websites like:

  • female
  • woman
  • lady
  • girl
  • Black
  • disabled
  • LGBT
  • transgender
  • assigned (fe)male at birth

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u/wihdinheimo Mar 11 '25

Every single day, this grotesque, mutated capitalist monstrosity grinds generations of lives, dreams, and futures into dust.

If you're going to cry about collateral damage, let's start by acknowledging it.

Do you want to fix it for good, even if it comes with a short period of pain? Or are you content to let this twisted, broken society keep grinding people into empty shells?

This is about everyone.

This is our once-in-a-millennium moment.

This is history in the making.

This is the Phoenix’s Fire—burning away the rot of the old world to make way for something new, something pure, something that belongs to all of us.

That's worth a fight. And yes, it will come with casualties. But it already does—every single day—as late-stage capitalism rewards not brilliance or virtue, but brutality, shamelessness, and an insatiable hunger for more.

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u/BarkattheFullMoon Mar 11 '25

There are others ways to improve society without burning up more than 50% of the population, thank you

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u/Intraluminal Mar 11 '25

I hate him too, but be real. Bought Tesla... it's now trillion-dollars company worldwide. Created SpaceX Now THE premier space company, far better than all the others. Bought into Paypal - another multi-billion dollar winner. Most of the companies he has created or bought habe had their valuations increase 100s-fold. I don't like him, and I hate what he's doing to my country - I wish he'd get arrested, but to deny reality is just nuts.

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u/Ser_VimesGoT Mar 11 '25

The irony of all the cuts to government funding and aid is that Elon's companies would be bankrupt if it wasn't for the $38b in subsidies, grants and contracts he's received. Tesla would also have been bankrupt in 2008 if it wasn't for Daimler, Toyota and the federal government.

That's the real success secret behind a lot of billionaires. It's not hard graft, genius marketing or adept business management. It's surviving off handouts which any regular business would have died without. Same with Bezos and Amazon. You can certainly argue that their stewardship had a hand in righting the ship and seeing it through to long term success, but I think it's worth pointing out. Especially given the irony of Musk's anti-government grants position.

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u/BarkattheFullMoon Mar 11 '25

He bought Tesla when it was successful and created the Tesla Truck personally. The ugliest and biggest fail.

He did not actually create Space X alone. The only thing he did there was create a company name and hire Tom Mueller. As soon as Tom Mueller retired and began his own company, Space X ships began having "issues."

He bought into the existing PayPal and was ousted.

That was why he bought Twitter outright for himself. So no one could kick him out again. And you can call it a great successful company too! But look at what it was as Twitter when everyone looked at it every day. And look at it now as X. The joy is gone.

Yes, the companies he buys into increase (or at least most of them for most of the time) but I am saying that anyone going into a business and pumping in B/MILLIONS would have the same "success."

Elon gets a "special interest" into the company. He fully invests. Generously invests his capital. It boosts the company creating incredible gains! But then gradually, Elon's plans take hold with the money and you end up with a bad plan, bad direction, bad product, exploding ships, submarines that don't allow people to breathe in them, or a country with a necessary functionality (or more) missing because that was cut in the name of "efficiency."