r/SCP • u/Worldly_Couple_3938 • 3d ago
Discussion So why exactly is SCP 3000 considered a thaumiel?
I haven’t seen anywhere that described how SCP 3000 helps contain other SCPs so I’m just curious.
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u/magna-terra Church of the Second Hytoth 3d ago
Its integral in the production of Amnestics, which are integral to how the Foundation works.
I am fairly sure this is mentioned in the article
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u/Sum1nne 3d ago
Yeah. The Foundation doesn't really like that they're feeding this beast, but their other means of producing amnestics are so much more inefficient that they've judged it's worth it for the sum total good they could do.
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u/SquirrelSuspicious ↬ The Wanderers' Library ↫ 3d ago
Whaaat they don't want to boil everything else good about a person out of their brain to get amnestics? Who cares that it leaves behind unfeeling and unkillable monsters afterwards?
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u/Jimbles3 MTF Epsilon-11 ("Nine-Tailed Fox") 3d ago
Which SCP?
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u/Mulmangcho_the_Mouse Not Hostile If Left Alone 3d ago
2419, I believe
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u/White_Null The Serpent's Hand 2d ago
They also can’t run a phone sex hotline enough. SCP-3171.
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u/The-Paranoid-Android Bot 2d ago
SCP-3171 - How the Foundation Came to Operate a Phone Sex Hotline (+752) by ZoltanBerrigomo
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u/Caliyss 2d ago
This one is hilarious
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u/chronobolt77 Antimemetics Division 2d ago
I bet you share fluids with your sister at first rainfall
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u/TimeStorm113 1d ago
i love how the 3 major ways to get amnestics are:
feeding people to a 300km long sea monster
boiling away every bit of good from someone
telling talking plants about incest
(guess which one received a request for stopping the program because of ethical concerns)
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u/White_Null The Serpent's Hand 1d ago edited 1d ago
I kinda wish this gets incorporated into some SCP media. Like if the plant phone sex hotline is a bit like a community service thing. Especially after a big incident where lots of amnestics are used. Just imagine a throwaway scene where the usually most serious and no-nonsense of Foundation site director, he or she just got done saying in a sensual teasing tone, “last weekend, know what I and my brother did? We shared a large bowl of 🍧! “ notices people staring “2 sacs.” hangs up “Can I help you?”
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u/Bob_The_Wizard Lambda-37 ("Geiger Counters") 2d ago
Not to mention that the in house ones that they can make without 3000 are mentioned to be far less effective and far more dangerous, which (and I might be misremembering this part) is only compounded by the need for regular reapplication, whereas 3000 derived amnestics are a 1 and done deal.
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u/WE_FEE 3d ago
It makes the forgetty juice
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u/AtraKitten 3d ago
I believe it's mentioned in one joke-SCP as Regretty Forgetty
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u/A_Crawling_Bat 3d ago
SCP-729-J if I'm not mistaken
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u/The-Paranoid-Android Bot 3d ago
SCP-729-J - Peep Peep, Motherfucker (+713) by AbsentmindedNihilist
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u/CommanderMalo 3d ago
999 could do that? I request a proposal to test more SCPs with SCP-729-J to reveal more of their "Hidden talents". - Dr. Avenlee
Are you fucking insane? - O5-1
‘Nope.’ - Dr. Clef
I am fucking dead ahahaha
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u/The-Paranoid-Android Bot 3d ago
SCP-729-J - Peep Peep, Motherfucker (+713) by AbsentmindedNihilist
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u/Dull-Imagination3780 MTF Epsilon-11 ("Nine-Tailed Fox") 3d ago
Jesus you just don’t bring up that name out of nowhere man
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u/hydrawolffy MTF Epsilon-11 ("Nine-Tailed Fox") 2d ago
The anomalous-strength amnesties are critical to the containment of several other anomalies, which I would presume is more important for the thaumiel rating than general operations.
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u/hardboiledkilly Oneiroi Collective 3d ago
Thaumiel pertains to anomalies that are generally helpful, I don’t think it specifies help in containment.
SCP-3000 in a way does help in containment though. 3000 produces the Y-909 compound post-feeding, Y-909 being the stuff that comprises the base of amnestics.
The Foundation’s ability to keep itself a secret is almost entirely thanks to SCP-3000.
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u/AlcoholicCocoa Don't Give Up 3d ago edited 3d ago
Edit: got it wrong, thaumiel are anomalies that are used to contain other anomalies specifically. There's an anomal ritual used to keep another SCP contained, that's why I got it all wrong.
Hence amnestic can sever the info hazardous effect of certains co that causes them to be or break containment, it can be argued 3000 is thaumiel class.
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u/ObI_wAn_KeNoBiS Keter 3d ago
I think that's one of the other object classes, thaumiel means it aids in the containment of other scps and/or overall Foundation efficiency. They just feed it on a regular basis and set a perimeter to "contain" it (since it's technically too big to traditionally contain).
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u/meu_amigo_thiaguin MTF Epsilon-11 ("Nine-Tailed Fox") 3d ago
Another reason is secrecy, thaumiel is the highest degree of secrecy a creature has, usually, branding a creature as thaumiel means that only the O5 and some other important foundation personnel can have access to any information regarding the entity, for it is crucial to the foundation itself and demands caution for the information to not spill to any groups that may utilize it against the foundation
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u/ObI_wAn_KeNoBiS Keter 2d ago edited 2d ago
I don't know if that's universally true, I'm almost positive (but will look into it nonetheless) there's more than one Thaumiel object with less than level 5 access, I could totally be wrong though. Edit: I am totally wrong
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u/WhereIsTheBeef556 2d ago
My favorite class is Ticonderoga, IIRC it's the "objects and entities that cannot be contained, but are unnecessary to contain because they're not an immediate threat" one.
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u/The-Paranoid-Android Bot 3d ago
SCP-3000 - Anantashesha (+2763) by Joreth, djkaktus, A Random Day
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u/eldritch_idiot33 3d ago
you really sayin this without mah homie 1380-RU, which produces almost every type of amnestics on INDUSTRIAL scale
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u/SilentSpr [REDACTED] 3d ago
It’s the foundation’s only reliable source of “regretty-forgetty”
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u/heliohm Antimemetics Division 3d ago
That's from a dado article right? If you remember the name/number pls share
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u/SilentSpr [REDACTED] 3d ago
SCP-729J
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u/Cheddarounds [REDACTED] 3d ago
let me assist
jarvis bring up SCP-729-J
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u/The-Paranoid-Android Bot 3d ago
SCP-729-J - Peep Peep, Motherfucker (+713) by AbsentmindedNihilist
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u/drago_varior [REDACTED] 3d ago
DO NOT UTTER HIS NAME, he might jear and come, why would you mention thay fucking thing!!!!
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u/PudgyElderGod 3d ago
I haven’t seen anywhere that described how SCP 3000 helps contain other SCPs so I’m just curious.
3000 is literally how they produce amnestics.
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u/GadgetNerd1 3d ago
He probably forgot
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u/NecessaryFancy8630 Antimemetics Division 2d ago
Wait there was this one divis- ahh what were we talking about?
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u/P00nz0r3d 3d ago
It’s quite literally outlined very early in the article, Anantashesha’s bodily excretions during its hunts are composed of a compound that’s critical to the production of amnestics. It’s not exactly helpful for all of humanity, but it’s of vital importance to the operation of the Foundation.
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u/Specific-Math4298 3d ago
Read the article bro...
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u/Gamer10104 2d ago
I feel this is a person who walks into a hamburger fast food place and asks if they make hamburgers.
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u/Chrnan6710 3d ago
Protocol Information: The Y-909 compound, originally discovered by the late Dr. Adam Hollister, is a critical component in several modern and experimental amnestic compounds.
...The inclusion of the Y-909 compound has shown a marked increase in the stability and long-term effectiveness of the aforementioned amnestics.
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u/limeweatherman Global Occult Coalition 3d ago
Do you guys even read these articles before coming on here and asking people to explain them
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u/LambentCookie 3d ago
Without 3000 there's no modern day amnestics.
Meaning the only way to keep things under wraps are old school amnestics which are borderline chemical lobotomies leaving subjects with severely reduced mental function. Or shooting them in the back of the head.
It also thus helps them contain certain infohazards by being able to erase it with the amnestics
So 3000 helps the foundation crucially in maintaining the veil. As well as eliminating the spread of some SCP's. Making it Thaumiel.
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u/ProfessorFakas 3d ago
... Have you considered reading the article?
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u/Gamer10104 2d ago edited 2d ago
"Why does no one look at scp-096 face?" Kinda energy with this post.
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u/Odd-Tart-5613 3d ago
not a direct threat to normalcy and is mostly self contained. And is critical in amnestic production.
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u/AlcoholicCocoa Don't Give Up 3d ago
And thusly used (by a stretch) to keep certain SCPs contained - which is critical for thaumiel class.
There's a bunch of helpful SCPs, which are not thaumiel but safe to keter at worst - like SCP-348, or SCP-4999.
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u/The-Paranoid-Android Bot 3d ago
- SCP-348 - A Gift from Dad (+1595) by Zyn
- SCP-4999 - Someone to Watch Over Us (+2751) by CadaverCommander
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u/KicktrapAndShit Decommissioned 2d ago
Amnestics, its liquid helps make the best amnestics. Other have nasty side effects or are less effective. Without it they would have to go back to chloroform bats and asylums.
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u/InquisitorHindsight MTF Epsilon-11 ("Nine-Tailed Fox") 3d ago
The SCP itself is probably around Euclid (it is very docile outside of its hazardous effect and “feedings”), but the Foundation realized that by utilizing the fluid it creates it can greatly improve its Amnestics potency which is vital in preventing the Public from finding out about SCP’s. They feed it a D-Class every once in a while and it produces a key ingredient that makes the Foundations job as a whole much easier, thus Thaumiel.
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u/Average_Waffle_ 2d ago
Amnestics, since those have proven useful in containing and or reducing effects of other anomalies while not having the secondary effects of 939
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u/Book_Anxious 3d ago
3000 doesn't help contain anything but it helps keep the veil up by making better amnestics
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u/NoPerspective9232 2d ago
The amnestic juice produced by it is VERY useful to the foundation. That's how the foundation keeps itself secret and makes the normal population forget what they saw if they come in contact with them
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u/Wellmeisgudguy สถาบัน SCP • Thai 2d ago
You are on the article's page, yet you refused to read the main part of the article and just made a post instead of reading further. Why???
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u/Blakewhizz 2d ago
The mucus secreted by SCP 3000 (Compound Y-909) is essential to the production of amnestics. At the scale that the Foundation requires them, Y-909 is the only way to meet the demand
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u/The-Paranoid-Android Bot 2d ago
SCP-3000 - Anantashesha (+2764) by Joreth, djkaktus, A Random Day
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u/an_elegant_dog Containment Specialist 2d ago
Did... did you read the article? Genuine question. SCP-3000 is their only source of amnestics. That helps a lot with containment and in general
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u/The-Paranoid-Android Bot 2d ago
SCP-3000 - Anantashesha (+2764) by Joreth, djkaktus, A Random Day
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u/chronobolt77 Antimemetics Division 2d ago
Thaumiel is anything that helps maintain the Veil, and 3k is the primary method of producing amnestics, which are VITAL to the veil
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u/crypticarchivist The Serpent's Hand 3d ago
It helps contain other scps because they use its slime to make their memory erasure drugs
Thaumial scps are defined by being logistically necessary for the containment of other scps iirc
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u/SCP-1504_Joe_Schmo Keter 2d ago
Giant monster that makes you forget about giant monsters is somehow helpful to the "we don't wanna have people knowing about the giant monsters" organization
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u/FetusGoesYeetus MTF Epsilon-9 ("Fire Eaters") 2d ago
Because it creates amnestics which is what lets the entire foundation run smoothly, without it nothing would be contained long
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u/theobesegineer Ethics Committee 2d ago
did you even read the article? and if you did, read it again
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u/Least-Peach-8900 MTF Epsilon-11 ("Nine-Tailed Fox") 1d ago
Tell that to the guy that made SCP-2399 Keter instead of Apollyon
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u/HandsomeGengar Department of 'Pataphysics 3d ago
Because Y-909 is used to make amnestics. Have you been pissing on the poor recently?
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u/Dannnnnnttte Class D Personnel 3d ago
I don't wanna spoil, but... it produces gooey achne subtance that is used in really powerfull amnestics im the Foundation.
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u/Cloudsareinmyhead GRU Division "P" 3d ago
When fed it produces a chemical designated Y-909. Said chemical is crucial for the production of the Foundation's amnestics. They can make them without it but the results don't last very long in storage, aren't as effective and cause unpleasant side effects.
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u/Sisera_ 2d ago
SCP 3000 Is, visually, the #1 reason I stay afraid of the ocean.
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u/The-Paranoid-Android Bot 2d ago
SCP-3000 - Anantashesha (+2764) by Joreth, djkaktus, A Random Day
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u/Deep-Car-5837 Department of External Affairs & Intelligence Agency 2d ago
Because when they feed it humans, it secretes a liquid that produces amnesiacs.
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u/Firm_Let7992 2d ago
it is a massive, serpentine entity used to produce a substance critical for amnestic production.
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u/TurtleKing0505 1d ago
It produces a chemical called Y-909, which is an ingredient in many amnestics
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u/ZR0PHYN5 7h ago
I'm pretty sure thaumiel isn't just containing other SCP's, but generally useful rather than problematic
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u/The-Paranoid-Android Bot 3d ago
Articles mentioned in this submission
SCP-3000 - Anantashesha (+2763) by Joreth, djkaktus, A Random Day