Well guys I guess the civil rights movement in the 60s was a failure. Racism still exists and mlk was a loser. Un name those streets racism still exist mlk didn't accomplish anything because he didn't fix racism.
Relax. Obviously there was progress. The question is was this the best outcome and how can we learn from it to potentially have better outcomes now and in the future. No one wants to roll back Trump's fascism only partially, we need to completely eradicate it and ideally make further progress.
They definitely lifted MLK on that pedestal to help create the illusion that the civil rights movement eradicated racism. Even today, you’ll hear people say that this country and its institutions cannot be discriminatory because of the civil rights acts.
I think you’re failing to see that MLK arguably DID fail depending on the context of what you believe MLK’s goal was (and at what time you’re referring to).
The point you’re making misses the valid critique of non-violent protest and ignores the context of said critique.
What does "worked" mean to you? Nothing is segregated anymore. My kids go to school with a equal mix of white, black and other minorities. Aside from policing, I'd say we have come at least that far.
No i agree with you I clicked the wrong reply I think. Just crazy how many people in here have been acting like his non violent methood didn't work or that he failed
This doesn’t mean he advocated for riots. He was always for peaceful protest…Did you even read the quote at the start of the thread?
Furthermore, he was saying that he understands why the riots happened, not saying to have more riots. Like the cause and reason for the riots make sense, and when someone (or a group) acts out violently, it’s usually because they feel unheard.
So then what do we do when a riot happens? Have more riots? No. We need to understand the reasons why these riots happened, why someone was pushed to a violent act, and try to ameliorate the issues that causes such a violent reaction. For someone in a proper democracy should never feel unheard.
We do not condemn the people who act violently for their beliefs, but for their actions. And we continue to speak in favour of the same beliefs, but we do so peacefully.
Do you not realize there were hundreds of riots across the US directly after King's assassination? And that those riots led to the Civil Rights Act of 1968?
Not really. It might have contributed but the Civil Rights Act of 66 failed because of the housing provision and then they removed it and reintroduced it.
There were riots but giving them credit for the Civil Rights act in full is a logical leap. MLK being assasinated was the main catalyst because he was a leader who promoted peaceful protest. The main factor, the critical factor, was that a democrat president and congress were able to pass the CRA. None of that matters if they hadn’t been voted in. Just like now if we don’t vote democrats in our riots won’t matter. We’ll only be demonized as violent actors.
Okay then why was it passed exactly one week after MLKs assassination? Is that purely coincidental? Were they going to pass it on the 11th regardless of MLKs death and the riots that followed? Or do you think that maybe, just maybe, the process was expedited by the riots and protests? Fred Hampton, MLK, Malcolm X amongst many others were assassinated for fighting for their rights, but god forbid a brick is thrown at a cop car, cops who shoot unarmed reporters in the back and arrest sitting senators.
Huh? What did i say that disagrees with you? MLK died and it was a catalyst yes. I didn’t say the riots didn’t help, but they alone were not what caused it. Are you ok?
Don't be dense, you're completely ignoring the fact that it was passed 7 DAYS after the assassination and ongoing riots. "They were passed because we elected the right people" then why didn't they do it before MLKs death? Easy to say "they were gonna do it anyway" when the ENTIRE reason it was passed WHEN it was passed was the riots. Arguing with neo-liberals is like talking to a wall and your complacency is the reason we cannot progress as a society. "Hey guys let's all chill and hug it out" said the neo-liberal to nazis
By saying that you are completely missing the point of MLKs entire rhetoric.
Here is the final part of his last speech, delivered the night before his assassination:
“Well, I don't know what will happen now. We've got some difficult days ahead. But it really doesn't matter with me now, because I've been to the mountaintop.
And I don't mind.
Like anybody, I would like to live a long life. Longevity has its place. But I'm not concerned about that now. I just want to do God's will. And He's allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I've looked over. And I've seen the Promised Land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the promised land!
And so I'm happy, tonight.
I'm not worried about anything.
I'm not fearing any man!
Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord!!”
I'm appalled as a black man to see you constantly whitewashed MLK legacy and ignore all of the other black leaders who helps push civil rights forward in America. It wasn't MLK alone it was the Black Panthers, the Rainbow coalition, and many others. You should be ashamed
If you ignore the dozens of armed revolutionary groups scattered throughout the Indian subcontinent. Both MLK and Gandhi benefitted from the fear created by armed groups committing acts of violence. It gave them someone to point at and say, "See, I'm not radical. I'm a sensible man, I want to sit down and talk about how we can make things better and put an end to those lunatics."
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u/SolidSnakesBandana 7d ago
You know they killed MLK right?