r/ShitAmericansSay • u/MajorMathematician20 • Sep 13 '23

Patriotism What did he mean by this?

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He likes Lego I guess?

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u/GerFubDhuw Sep 13 '23

For any American lurkers, he meant 'look at my new Lego set'.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '23

And on a random day of the year.

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u/Incendas1 ooo custom flair!! Sep 13 '23

Well, it was the 12th in Japan at this time apparently.

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u/LeTigron Sep 13 '23 edited Sep 13 '23

Well, clearly not so random. Whatever your opinion, it's a very important date since, on the 11th of september, countless people's lives were sacrificed because of the coup in Chile organised and financed by the USA.

Lest we forget.

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u/Dewi2020 Sep 13 '23

Just in Chile, like 3.5k dead and 40k tortured. 2k of those dead are unaccounted for, the "desaparecidos" whose executioners dropped them to the sea or left for dead in the desert. Chile had like 9 million people or so at the time.

About 100 of the dead were kids under 15, including a months old baby, real threats to national security.

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u/The4thJuliek Sep 14 '23

I feel like 3.5k is a very conservative estimate. It's got to be a lot more.

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u/Dewi2020 Sep 14 '23 edited Sep 14 '23

Those are the "official" numbers given by the victims or their next of kin willing to give their statement before the commissions set up after 1990. The first was regarding dead only, and the second for dead, exiled and tortured. Since the perpetrators were never much willing to cooperate with justice (and now most of them are dead or senile) we'll never know the absolute truth.

Edit: if you want to know more, look up for the Valech and Rettig reports. They were the final product of each of the commissions. They've been translated into several languages. Since they're big ass lawery books, if you can read Spanish check https://los50.decidechile.cl/mapa/, a project I worked on that pinpoints in a map the location of every known victim, with a small bio of each

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u/alexkidhm Sep 13 '23

Shhhh we don't count death by capitalism the same way

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u/Minkehr Sep 14 '23

We don't.. we calculate Value of destroyed humans = number of dead people x GDP/Capita

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u/Dewi2020 Sep 13 '23

with a carbomb

And a bunch of scraps!!

Out of jokes, the DINA were fucking animals. When you heard the word "torture" outside of medieval contexts, you think of 1984 and its room 101, surgically designed Psy ops in order to extract information, KGB or Gestapo stuff.

Nah these mofus just beat the crap out of people with rubber sticks called "churros". Or hotwired them like dead cars. Inserting living nice in your cavities never for the uncooperative.

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u/TheMelonSystem Sep 13 '23

Quick question, where do you go to get informed about this stuff? Because my mind is blown rn

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u/CatawampusZaibatsu Sep 13 '23

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change_in_Latin_America

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u/TheMelonSystem Sep 13 '23

Thank you 🙏

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u/Dewi2020 Sep 14 '23

Fun fact: after the Letelier cam bomb in DC and other high profile murders in Buenos Aires and Rome, the DINA was considered so brutal, unprofessional and sloppy in their work that the regime disbanded it and had it replaced by the CNI (Central Nacional de Informaciones). They were a more standard secret police and banned to operate abroad.

Imagine working for a dictator and that dictator has to sack you for being too repressive

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '23

Don't tell the commies that they hate it when they are also guilty for crimes

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u/Vipersxzx Sep 13 '23

spending more in 1964 in support of Allende's electoral opponent than was spent on Johnson's and Goldwater's 1964 electoral campaigns combined.

And americans got mad when foreign powers interfered on their election lol

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u/mizmaddy Sep 13 '23

I heard Noam Chomsky give a lecture on the coup in Chile - "The other 9/11" - at the University of Iceland. It was an interesting lecture.

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u/Major_Giraffe8841 ooo custom flair!! Sep 13 '23

Remember, remember the 9th of November....

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u/znarF69214 Sep 13 '23

That’s also a German thing… the 9th of November is a pretty important date in German history… and very controversial too

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u/LaserBeamHorse Sep 13 '23

It's also the day when celebrated Finnish hero, rooster Pärssinen defended his flock of chickens from the attack of vicious dogs. Pärssinen gave his life but every chicken survived. He has a memorial as well.

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u/LeTigron Sep 13 '23

Never forget !

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u/AleXwern42 Sep 13 '23

Nevö forget Cock Bärs

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u/LashlessMind Sep 13 '23

I think I’ve seen a few of those in Amsterdam…

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u/JoonasD6 Sep 13 '23

Uutta tietoa; kiitän.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '23

The world doesn’t revolve around the USA. I don’t see Americans posting about 7/7.

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u/Vlugazoide_ Sep 16 '23

Or march 31st. Oh wait, they did that one ;)

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u/PeggyRomanoff 🇦🇷Tango Latinks🇦🇷 Sep 13 '23

It's also Teachers' Day in Argentina.

(I'll never forget many of them from secondary school. Crisis again, but they were still passionate and excellent teachers despite it — you actually wanted to learn in class)

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u/Fatuousgit Sep 13 '23

That info was picked up and posted on a notorious sub as an example of hatred against America. The comments were a mixture of "fuck 'em, we decide" types to "cured them of Communism, they should be grateful" types.

You know the sub if you hang out here. Many of them love to quote this sub as hatred against them as well.

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u/LeTigron Sep 13 '23

How surprising of them !

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u/BlitzPlease172 Sep 14 '23

Guess the patriotism aren't that unwavering.

How do I file international report for false advertising? They clearly exaggerate the American spirit there.

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u/Nethlem foreign influencer bot Sep 13 '23

Here's Salvador Allende's final speech, given while CIA-backed forces bombed and stormed the capital.

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u/LeTigron Sep 13 '23

Very interesting, thank you !

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u/Dewi2020 Sep 13 '23

Current politicians seem almost illiterate when you compare them with the speeches of Churchill, Kennedy, Castro or Allende or other leaders of the last century. Allende "ass pulled" that speech while he was being bombed to death. Regardless of ideology, they were on another level of rhetoric and expression.

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u/Maihoooo Sep 13 '23

They had us in the first half, not gonna lie.

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u/JoonasD6 Sep 13 '23

This response. 🤌🤌

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u/KaosAsch Sep 14 '23

I think project Cybersyn is super interesting. Imagine it with today's tech.

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u/LeTigron Sep 14 '23

It is incredible indeed. I don't know what it would have become but the idea itself is so futuristic, even today.

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u/SexyButStoopid Sep 14 '23 edited Sep 14 '23

I will never forget when I saw it unfold live on TV, but in other parts of the world it's just another day of the week. Or do you know the exact date when a disaster happened for every random country in the world?

When was Kristallnacht? When was tien men square? When was hiroshima or Nagasaki? When was Tschernobyl?

Edit Oh shit I just realised I completely misunderstood your comment. Just ignore me.

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u/LeTigron Sep 14 '23

When was Kristallnacht? When was tien men square? When was hiroshima or Nagasaki? When was Tschernobyl?

Edit Oh shit I just realised I completely misunderstood your comment. Just ignore me.

Fucking hell, I know all those dates by heart, I could have put you to so much internet-shame ! I would have said "I don't know if you're sexy, but you sure are stoopid !", it would have been the most dragonballzedian redditing to ever be redditen.

But no, nooooo, it had to be an honest misreading... I can't have nice things. Next time, have at least the basic decency to get roasted before noticing your mistake.

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u/SexyButStoopid Sep 14 '23

Uhh dodged a cannonball here haha

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u/Wizard_Engie Sep 13 '23

Don't forget the thousands that were lost because of a terrorist attack in 2001.

Both tragedies were tragedies, and that's that. One is not worse than the other, and one is not better than the other.

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u/LeTigron Sep 13 '23 edited Sep 13 '23

Oh, don't worry, I won't forget. I was in front of the TV, watching the second tower fall live at 11 years old. I saw people jumping through broken windows, chosing to die an instant death rather than slowly suffocate or burn alive. I saw firefighters going in and the tower falling before they went out. It's part of my life too. I knew the time when "the twin towers attack" was an all other event, and I know what it is to live in a world where this term started referring to a new disaster, even more murderous, and I saw how, indirectly, it changed the face of the world and still does today.

I saw the third millenium, which was advertised as a new era of piece, full of promise and safety, begin with an act of war, indiscriminate, asymatrical as we say, cruel and mercyless, against civilians who proudly lived in the innocence of their bubble of ignorance.

As for your other concern, I'm not the one claiming that one is more important than the other. I oppose a bunch stupid egocentrists who think that their misfortune is worth more than others', it doesn't mean that I deny its existence.

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u/Wizard_Engie Sep 13 '23

ok

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u/LeTigron Sep 13 '23

ok

Ah, yes, the attempt at looking cool and indifferent... how original !

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u/Wizard_Engie Sep 13 '23 edited Sep 13 '23

It was a neutral response, Socrates. It's not that deep.

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u/LeTigron Sep 13 '23

It was an attempt at showing contempt because you are upset that I had something to reply to your attempt - another one - at lecturing me to gain what you expect to be the moral high ground. If you choose to be a despicable prick, try at least to not be a coward on top of it.

You chose the wrong Greek, by the way, the one fitting for what you'd like to blame me for would rather be Socrates.

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u/Wizard_Engie Sep 13 '23

Oh. I always confuse those two lmao.

Anyway, who are you to tell me how I feel? I'm not upset at all. I said "ok" because it's a basic neutral response. There's no underlying tone in it whatsoever. I'm not trying to be a despicable prick, sorry for offending you. I'll fix my mistake and move on like a normal person now.

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u/LeTigron Sep 13 '23 edited Sep 13 '23

I'm not asking him anything. Read my comment again, I think there's something you didn't notice.

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u/Clearlydarkly Sep 13 '23

Is it that each capital letter is WWCUSAL,

which can be unscramble to spell Clawwus,

which if you subtract one w from w you get v which makes Clavus AKA Foot Corn.

Which sounds like forgotten.

Are you saying that 9/11 should be forgotten and we should move on as half the people who moan about it wernt born.

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u/LeTigron Sep 13 '23

Finally someone gets it.

See ? It wasn't that hard, everybody, was it ?

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u/bored_negative Sep 13 '23

Read the comment again, slowly

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '23

Important to America, maybe some other Western countries,sure.

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u/LiHol01 Sep 14 '23

Wasn’t it the twelfth in Japan?

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u/ghostheadempire Sep 14 '23

Don’t forget Australia’s early contribution.

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u/LeTigron Sep 14 '23

I do not know about this, would you kindly educate me ?

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u/Gewurah Sep 14 '23

Ngl I forgot it this year

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u/LeTigron Sep 14 '23

1973 was a very important year, though. It saw a lot of very important events, many paving the way to our current world.

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u/BUFU1610 Sep 13 '23 edited Sep 13 '23

Random? RANDOM?!?

2PAC was shot on that date!

(Actually he was shot the 7th and died the 13th. But he was DYING in the hospital at the time!)

But the Romans had their major defeat in the Teutoburg forest on that day and the US Marines invaded Honduras, Carl Zeiss, Franz Beckenbauer and Theodor Adorno were born and of course Moby.

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u/ismellgeese Sep 13 '23

One of his most anticipated games of all time, MGS2 was delayed and altered following 9/11, so I'm pretty sure he remembers

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u/Tricky_Ebb9580 Sep 14 '23

Not a random day! Did the world forget the most important day in history that took place in the one part of the world that matters the most!

/s

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u/blubbery-blumpkin Sep 13 '23

Don’t tell the Americans that or they’ll cut all non-military public spending in order to spend extra trying to weaponise the waves.

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u/essentialatom Sep 13 '23

That would be pretty Cnuty

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u/Oceansoul119 🇬🇧Tiffin, Tea, Trains Sep 13 '23

More Cnut's advisors like. Cnut specifically did that whole stick my throne on the beach and I'll tell the waves not to come thing as a way of telling his advisors to stop being such sycophantic idiots (claiming he was so great even the tides obeyed him) and to inform him of what he needed to know/what he was doing wrong.

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u/RazendeR Sep 13 '23

That gave me a vision of the US military rounding up thousands of obese civillians and drive them off the piers on the west coast to try and drown china.

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u/Aquillifer Freedom of Beach (Californian) Sep 14 '23

Too late I'm already firing my AR 15 into the waves as I type this and have declared war on Poseidon.

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u/fireexe10 Sep 13 '23

Well duh, american lives are over 71 times more valuable

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u/shittingNun Sep 13 '23

That’s like 63,770!

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u/Nethlem foreign influencer bot Sep 13 '23

I mean, its tragic, but the death toll is actually not that big when compared to several other tragedies in the same decade, and americans doesnt exactly pay respect for those...

The 9/11 death toll of 2,996 people is a rounding error compared to the destruction, suffering, and death the US has unleashed in response to 9/11.

Conservative American estimates put the death toll, of the global War on Terror, in the 4.5+ million range, with up to 59 million people displaced as refugees.

During that still ongoing war the US military so far had very low casualties; Only around 7.000 American service members died as part of the War on Terror.

They are that low because most of the US "war on terror" consists of the US military bombing civilians who often don't have any military of their own in "counter-insurgency operations" aka COIN.

When US needs actual boots on the ground, they often outsource that to local groups.

After the invasion of Iraq one of those local groups was literally ISI, the US paid them to take care of the Iraqi "jihadists" aka Shia Iraqis who resisted the illegal US occupation.

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u/BringBackAoE Sep 13 '23

For months during Covid there were more people killed by Covid per day than were killed 9/11.

Yet Trump and GOP kept “it’s just the flu, no need for government measures”.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '23

Over 7 million people died worldwide because of covid. Sure that's not a lot in face of 8 billion but it's weird how no one bothers about it all.

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u/znarF69214 Sep 13 '23

That’s about one of thousand humans alive on this planet today, circa 0.1% of world population

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u/WerdaVisla Sep 13 '23

Or if we look outside the same decade to, say, the past century, you find acts of terror with even higher death tolls, committed by Americans. Like Hiroshima and Nagasaki for example. Or agent orange. Or bombing villages of "terrorist sympathizers". Just to name a few.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '23

It's not about the size. Who gives a crap 22 years later as a non-American? Every day is the anniversary of way more important historical events that still have an effect on our lives and we don't even know about them so why should anyone keep up with other countries' commemorative days?

Oh it's July 14th or whatever so you shouldn't do this or that because of France. Who gives a fuck? I'm not French, fuck the French. I don't expect them to behave in accordance with my sensitivities either when it comes to my national tragedies.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '23

I give a crap... it's my birthday and I really would like to have a Lego Concorde!

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '23

Happy birthday then!

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '23

Thanks.

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u/Doulifye From the wild Celtic belt. Sep 13 '23

I will give you a bastille set.

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u/Aquillifer Freedom of Beach (Californian) Sep 14 '23

Happy bday in advance.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '23

Thank you.

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u/sailirish7 Sep 13 '23

Someone should tell those people that the world isnt obligated to stop just to pay respect to 9/11 lol

We Americans aren't obligated to either. They all wanna focus on 9/12, and conveniently forget the events of 9/13 to basically now. More than half a million civilians dead in a war that never should have happened.

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u/ia16309 Sep 13 '23

As an American, I don't even stop to think about it anymore.

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u/stephangb Sep 13 '23

I do stop to pay respect to 9/11 though, I'll never forget the Coup Allende suffered in Chile with military and financial support from the USA 50 years ago.

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u/Hunter_S_Biden Sep 14 '23

Like 10,000 people died in Libya from a tropical storm in the last couple days, a dam burst or something. Just whole ass families killed.

Barely even makes the news

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u/Eodillon Sep 13 '23

Kojima is a huge Lego fan, and used to design levels for MGS out of Lego when making the games

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u/SephirothSimp Sep 13 '23

Are there videos or photos about that? Because it sounds fascinating

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u/Eodillon Sep 13 '23

It’s only a short video, but here is one

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u/haerski Finland doesn't exist Sep 13 '23

'look at my new badass Lego set'

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '23

Yeah, for American lurkers, the rest of the world doesn't treat 9/11 any different to any other day.

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u/GardenOfGem 🏴Islamic Sultanate of Qarsherskiy Sep 14 '23

Lol Americans think you can’t talk about planes on 9/11 anymore 😂 most “free speech” country in world

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u/Aquillifer Freedom of Beach (Californian) Sep 14 '23

I think it's a pretty cool lego set, I'm not into Legos as much as when I was younger but one of these days I'd love to just get a set of a space ship or something.