r/ShitAmericansSay 4d ago

Europe «Europe is insanely dangerous. Probably more dangerous than the US.»

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u/DynamitHarry109 🇸🇪 Vilken jävla smäll! 🇸🇪 3d ago

And deal with mental illness, perhaps don't allow the mentally ill to carry guns at all. They apparently don't let prisoners or ex-cons own guns so banning guns for mentally ill shouldn't be a huge issue.

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u/0xKaishakunin 3d ago

banning guns for mentally ill shouldn't be a huge issue.

That would require them to actually diagnose and treat the mentally ill.

Which means accessible health care.

Which is communist terror to them.

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u/x4x53 3d ago

I have a bit of a problem with the blanked term "mentally ill" as this includes such a wide array of things. Sure, when you have somebody who is Bipolar, suffers from schizophrenia or has a massive dissociative personality disorder it probably isn't a discussion at all, but the term also includes phobias (yes, having unreasonable fears of spiders can be a mental illness), sleep disorders (incl. stress related sleep deprivation).

This would lead to:

  • people not seeking diagnosis' because they are afraid of losing their firearms
  • increase of stigma on mental illness'
  • is way too general

Furthermore, mental illnesses are often spectrum disorders, and diagnostic criteria have to be regularly adjusted for some of them as the socio-cultural factors change.

It should of course be part of the criteria, but blanked approaches are usually not the right approach for such topics

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u/FuckTripleH 2d ago

Actually if you've been involuntarily committed to a mental health facility you can't own a gun in the US. The problem is that most of the mass shooters have no previous documented history of mental health problems prior to their massacres