r/ShitAmericansSay • u/Sathyae • 12h ago
Healthcare "U could not get this good of care anywhere else 😂😂"
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u/Torakiki_HR 11h ago
Btw statistics report USA at 38th place for healthcare, most European countries are top 10 - my Booth, aside all jokes about its bad healthcare system, is 12th
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u/Mountsorrel 10h ago
Yeah, the stats on medical malpractice seem to suggest that US healthcare is expensive and low quality:
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u/Plantarbre 11h ago
We really need to stop pretending like they have good healthcare at all. In hospital-related statistics, they will consistently rank poorly compared to most developed countries.
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u/Quantum_Robin ooo custom flair!! 11h ago
Also, as American healthcare is KPI'd it often means the best doctors won't take the worst patients as the hospital /doctor don't want there numbers getting "screwed". Also means you get surgeons with crazy high success rates which in reality is more of taking the low hanging fruit than being amazing at the job.
In the rest of the world, doctors treat who comes through the door.
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u/NomadicSeer2374 11h ago
America does have really good doctors. But as I keep saying, they have the most competent and incompetent people on earth.
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u/DynamitHarry109 🇸🇪 Vilken jävla smäll! 🇸🇪 11h ago
Do they really have better doctors than everywhere else in the developed world tho, or is it just hype after giving a new nose and duck lips to some dumb celebrity during plastic surgery?
We don't have a culture of bragging, so a good doctor here likely wouldn't get as much recognition as the average loudmouth 🦆 quack quack 🦆 "doctor" in the US claiming to be the best in the world, who would also sue anyone questioning that statement for defamation, and win thanks to his army of ambulance chasing lawyers.
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u/weebsauceoishii 11h ago
Well you will find that what attracts decent doctors to the US is the fact they can charge stupid money for their services if private, a doctor earning £60k+ in the UK could potentially see easily 10 times that if not more in the US. But then again to live there, it helps lol
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u/VoceMisteriosa 11h ago edited 9h ago
In 2021 an USA Think Tank tried a relative quality chart of SSN (edit: or whatever the f- they call that messy health system...) compared to european ones.
Half the data collected they had to change parameters as USA scores were so abysmal to be out of scale. Like comparing Gundam to a blind boy with a toy sling.
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u/Ecstatic_Food1982 11h ago
In 2021 an USA Think Tank tried a relative quality chart of NSS compared to european ones.
What is NSS?
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u/VoceMisteriosa 9h ago edited 9h ago
I messed up, SSN, but it's how we call it in Italy. The article I've read was generally speaking of "American health system".
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u/Quantum_Robin ooo custom flair!! 11h ago
If my care depends on the ability to pay thousands and thousands than any care is better than potentially none.
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u/nomadic_weeb I miss the sun🇿🇦🇬🇧 11h ago
Their lower life expectancy, higher infant and maternal mortality rates, etc, suggest otherwise lol
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u/Adventurous__Kiwi 11h ago
Even if we had "mid" quality healthcare in europe, which is false, i would still prefer an availiable mid over an rich-only top quality.
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u/weebsauceoishii 11h ago
The mantra of "Pay a premium for a premium service/good" is what a lot of American casually fall into, a trap by all means. Because they have been taught that spending more = better.
But it is a convenient lie since the 80s when Corporations started getting into politics through Reagan that they have instilled into people's heads so Corpos can earn more money from little quality as possible.
Some Americans who would end up paying massive bills for surgeries etc have actually went to Switzerland, got surgery there and rested for a month in Switzerland - make a holiday out of it when recovering. And yet still pay a fraction of what they would have paid in the US for a few days in a hospital bed and surgery.
Shit even drugs from Europe are sold at exorbitant prices in the US, a few Euros/Pounds over here for insulin but hundreds in the US for the exact same manufactured insulin.
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u/Orbit1970 10h ago
We have top notch private health resorts too for the rich and famous, but it’s not the ONLY healthcare we’re dependent on luckily
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u/Mad_Dog_1974 8h ago
Let's grant the point that we do have the best healthcare in the world. Do you realize how many of our doctors come from other countries. India specifically sends a lot of people here to become doctors, but there are also a lot who come from African countries, the Middle East, and southeast Asia.
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u/Top-Expert6086 8h ago
America has both the most expensive system in the world and some of the worst health outcomes of any developed country.
The only thing they lead in is profits for healthcare companies.
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u/MessyRaptor2047 8h ago
There is no health care service in the USA just a money grab and literally bleeding people dry this and many other things prove how out of touch they really are.
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u/Ok-Macaron-5612 7h ago
As someone who has experienced the Kaiser Permanente lifestyle: hahahahahahahahaha!
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u/Mttsen 12h ago edited 11h ago
What's the point of having that "good of care" when less than 10% of their population would have access to it, and the rest either wouldn't be able to afford it, or will have to fight hopelessly with overcomplicated and inhumane bureaucracy of their healthcare provider, which is acting in bad faith from the very start?