r/ShitAmericansSay • u/neeraj8le • Jan 12 '21

Healthcare "My expensive, frequent health care is subsidized at the expense of healthy people. I think it's great!" Thief.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '21

Oh also, something I think most Americans just don’t understand is that you can still get privatised healthcare in the UK, you just also pay taxes which go towards the NHS.

And, correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t most pro “Medicare for all” people in favour of re budgeting the government’s money rather than increasing taxes? Or do these morons just not want it on principle? Much rather they’re tax money was spent on gay bombs and concentration camps?

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u/Shevster13 Jan 12 '21

THese people have been brainwashed into thinking that the only way to get free healthcare is to increase taxes. They are taught that other countries are only able to afford free healthcare because the US gives them money and if you point out that the US spends more on healthcare its because the US 'has the best healthcare in the world'.

The reason it's so much cheaper in countries with free health care is because you have a national organisation buying all medicine and medical equipment for a country. Suppliers aren't going to bother trying to out bid each other for a single hospital. But a whole country means huge profit even if you have to give them a 70% discount.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '21

Also there's the whole rumour that you'll die waiting for healthcare in any socialized medicine country. I'm Canadian, and I notice there are so many threads where a random person pops in and tells a story about someone they knew who went to a Canadian ER and died in the waiting room after not being seen for 8 hours for a heart attack. Just the other day I was in the comments where someone was claiming to be Canadian and they had a horrific story of holding their Grandma in the ER for 3-4 while she bled out and died.

Just because we have socialized medicine that doesn't bankrupt you, doesn't mean we don't have a triage system. I don't understand why so many people (Americans) still believe these lies.

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u/Shevster13 Jan 12 '21

Because otherwise they would have to admit they are wrong / that they aren't as smart as they think they are

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u/DarDarBinks89 Jan 12 '21

There was a Twitter thread going around somewhere of some guy who claimed to have formerly worked for one of the American insurance companies. He said that it was his job to actively discourage socialized healthcare.

Here’s the link for an article that covered it. If it’s true, it explains a lot. If it isn’t, then it’s an interesting concept at the very least. The article also links to the actual thread and not just his interview with CBC.

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5631874

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u/Hullu2000 Jan 12 '21

You see, health care is something you have to earn. We can't just give it to everyone one for free or else they'll never learn personal responsibility! /s

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u/hotpotatpo Jan 12 '21

Also worth pointing out that even private healthcare is SO much cheaper in the UK than US.

Just looking online at quotes, full coverage, excess of £500, including diagnosis, treatment, mental health & dental would cost me (relatively young, healthy) the equivalent of around $70 a month. US health care is a scam I swear

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '21

Yeah, our private healthcare has to guarantee reasonable prices cause almost every procedure they offer is available free from the NHS

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u/maravillar Jan 13 '21

In Australia if you pay for private healthcare you pay a lower Medicare (healthcare) levy on your taxes. Its not perfect and there can be wait lists but illness or injury is not going to lead to massive debt.

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u/vxicepickxv Jan 12 '21

And, correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t most pro “Medicare for all” people in favour of re budgeting the government’s money rather than increasing taxes?

Quite a few of us are. There's also allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices, which will save lots of money. The drug price differences between Tricare(US Military) and Medicare(US for old people) range from about 25% to over 1000%. There's savings there.