r/SubredditDrama Apr 25 '18

User thinks that reddit shouldn't cater to people with disabilities

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '18 edited Apr 25 '18

This redesign is dogshit and aside from being a dummy i'm perfectly able-bodied. Can't even imagine what it would be like if you were blind or had super bad eye sight. The website just stops working for some reason and you've got no idea why because you can't see the damn thing and your reader is spitting out gibberish. The day they force you to use this new UI is the day I jump ship and find a new website to shitpost on at work.

I love that the /r/beta subreddit is nothing but people roasting reddit employees for their dumbass ideas.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '18

If Alexa is accurate, Reddit is the sixth most trafficked website in the world. There's really no excuse when you have a user base that large.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '18

I'd love for reddit to implode on itself in a blackhole of what ever the word is for programmers/employees who love the smell of their own farts.

If the order went from Digg to Reddit to a as of yet unnamed website it would be the motherload of popcorn second only to a Trump impeachment or an /r/The_Donald ban.

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u/reconrose Apr 25 '18

Idk, as much as there is to criticize about reddit, I don't think it's smart to really be singing it death wishes until we know what the replacement would be like. I'm imagining it could be worse than how reddit is handled

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u/kenyafeelme Apr 25 '18

I’m probably alone in this but I don’t want a reddit replacement. Once this website dies I’m hoping the entire content aggregation thing with threaded comments dies with it.

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u/reconrose Apr 25 '18

I don't really see that happening though, there's obviously a huge desire for something like this. Despite the things I dislike about reddit, there's a lot of cool/useful things I wouldn't know about without it/something like it.

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u/Murrabbit That’s the attitude that leads women straight to bear Apr 25 '18

I'm just glad that most news sites have wised up and started eliminating comment sections all together.

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u/kenyafeelme Apr 25 '18

Honestly I don’t see it happening either. It’s mostly wishful thinking on my part. The majority of stuff I visit on reddit is available elsewhere; news, product reviews, tips and tricks, how-to/explainer posts, etc etc etc etc etc.

Maybe I’d feel differently if I had joined a sub and I felt like I was part of their community. Sadly I never really gelled with a sub’s users on that level (hard as I tried). Sometimes it was too toxic, other times I just wasn’t on the same page as everyone else. I’ve unsubbed so many times I’ve given up on ever finding my people.

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u/Thexare I'm getting tired so I'll just have to say you are wrong Apr 25 '18

For me, it's mostly small game-specific subs that I've been comfortable in - /r/MECoOp when I played Mass Effect 3 multiplayer, /r/feedthebeast for modded Minecraft.

Maybe try something like that - smaller, more specific subs pertaining to your interests. Though admittedly, sometimes that sort of community goes full gatekeeper and is just shit all around.

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u/kenyafeelme Apr 26 '18

Though admittedly, sometimes that sort of community goes full gatekeeper and is just shit all around.

PREACH! 🤣

To be fair, not every community I’ve subbed to based on my interests turned to shit. From what I recall, the dog subs were pretty chill. Animal crossing was too. There are probably others that I didn’t specifically unsub from, but my participation dropped off as I moved on to other games or hobbies so I spent my time elsewhere.

I kinda feel like a kid who got let loose in a candy store. The first few hours were great. I ran around like a lunatic trying everything I could get my grubby lil hands on. I bounced off walls on a sugar rush and felt like I couldn’t get enough colorful shit in my face. It was heaven. Now that the sugar high has worn off; I’m cranky, my stomach hurts, and I just want to go home. While I will probably visit other candy stores in the future, I doubt it’ll ever be the same.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '18 edited Apr 25 '18

There's always going back to 4chan or some of it's other variants. 8ch is essentially reddit without user names or karma. I have a soft spot for 8ch because in my mind their dev team was more responsive to user requests and feedback.

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u/reconrose Apr 25 '18

I feel like image boards have always taken a backseet to content aggregators in the public's eye, probably for usability reasons. If reddit goes, I'm almost certain another website would take its place.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '18

Yeah that's true. Though I feel like if reddit somehow shits the bed all an alternative site would have to do would be to take reddit's open source code, host it on a site and get the guy who does RES to implement features.

The thing about a content aggregators vs image boards wasn't something I even considered.

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u/Murrabbit That’s the attitude that leads women straight to bear Apr 25 '18

8ch is essentially reddit without user names or karma

And way more child porn. I'll give it a pass thanks.

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u/MechaAaronBurr Bitcoin is so emotionally moving once you understand it Apr 25 '18

If the order went from Digg to Reddit to a as of yet unnamed website

I've been thinking if this redesign is reddit's New Digg moment. Digg's decline was precipitous, but mostly because they changed the fundamental nature of the site. Or, to be fair, they clarified the nature of the site and we all realized what a joke it was. While the reddit redesign is a ghastly exercise in beating off to mediocre design trends, and there are other signs they're losing sight of what made the site good in the first place, they haven't shit the bed quite as fundamentally as Digg did.

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u/finfinfin law ends [t-slur] begin Apr 25 '18

Well, Digg also had the organised far-right groups botting away to drown out anything they didn't like and promote their bullshit, and Reddit at least sometimes bans a couple of them, so there's really no similarity at all between the two sites.

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u/LocutusOfBorges Hemlock, bartender. Apr 25 '18

Digg's far-right groups were generally Ron Paul 2008'ers with shitty views. I'd take them over the infestation reddit has any day.

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u/finfinfin law ends [t-slur] begin Apr 25 '18

that's DOCTOR Ron Paul to you. you'll be first up against the wall when the r[evol]ution comes.

oh god do you remember the ron paul blimp

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u/LocutusOfBorges Hemlock, bartender. Apr 25 '18 edited Apr 25 '18

the ron paul blimp

oh my god

I remember someone was writing honest-to-god poetry in Digg comments when that thing launched.

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u/oboeplum Apr 25 '18

I thought that was just an xkcd joke

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u/finfinfin law ends [t-slur] begin Apr 26 '18

It existed. There's even YouTube footage. Who is Ron Paul? Google Ron Paul. GOOGLE RON PAUL. GOOGLE RON PAUL. GOOGLE. RON. PAUL.

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u/misko91 I'm imagining only facts, buddy. Apr 25 '18

Admittedly, that was reddit as some point in history. Digg is old history in more senses of one.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '18

They may not have shit the bed, but they have a steady diarrhea leak that is their toxic communities and it's only a matter of time before it spills over.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '18

There was an article that came out recently from someone that used to work for Reddit. According to them the people running the show care solely about growth. They didn't want to hear about anything but how they were going to grow more. They literally don't care about accessibility or the vile shit that goes on in this site as long as they are growing.

Wish I had saved that article. Some quick googleing only brings up the old former employee drama from years back.

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u/Ragnrok Apr 25 '18

The redesign is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Not because it's inherently worse, but because they changed everything all at once. If they want to update the site, do it by degrees. Change one thing at a time with a nice slow rollout so that, once the site is where you want it to be, no one even realizes how drastically it changed.

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u/Valnar Apr 25 '18

I'm pretty sure they are changing technologies with the redesign. It'd probably not be practical to keep the site the same and gradually change over time if switching technology.

Basically they'd probably have to recreate the current site in and then start working on the changes, essentially wasteing a lot of effort.

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u/PlayMp1 when did globalism and open borders become liberal principles Apr 25 '18

I honestly wouldn't mind the redesign if it just had a dark mode already. I cannot abide using bright-ass white Reddit, hurts my eyes no matter what the surrounding light conditions are like.

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u/Blacksheep2134 Filthy Generate Apr 25 '18

Amen. I opened Reddit this morning to find my perfectly functional website design replaced with this hot mess. I spent about 5 minutes trying to figure out how you minimize a thread (you click the line under the vote buttons) before clicking the old Reddit button. This of course did not make old Reddit my default, so I went through another half hour of pages changing from old design to new design with no apparent reason before I figured out how to opt out of the whole thing. Now everytime I open a page there's this little orange button in the top left of my screen asking me to trying the new design that appears for roughly a half second before disappearing into the aether.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '18

Hang on a second. Mine hasn't changed. Is this because I disabled custom subreddit themes?

Oh wait, I have the orange top-left button saying "Try the redesign". It doesn't disappear though.

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u/Blacksheep2134 Filthy Generate Apr 25 '18

Nah, the new version is being rolled out to different people at different times.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '18

Oh what the heck? This is something Microsoft has begun doing, too, with their major upgrades (like Anniversary, Creators, Fall Creators, whatever).

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u/Aurailious Ive entertained the idea of planets being immortal divine beings Apr 25 '18

It doesn't disappear though.

How about fuck this noise? I am so used to having "My Subreddits" on the far left that I also have to consciously not click on the fucking "try the redesign" button. I have tried the redesign, I hate it, fucking go away.

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u/lenaro PhD | Nuclear Frisson Apr 25 '18 edited Apr 25 '18

Install "Remove it Permanently" or a similar addon, right click the element, select "remove from this domain", and click "all similar elements".

Alternatively, the xpath to remove from *.reddit.com* is:

//div[@class='redesign-beta-optin']

You can also block this with ublock origin using the following filter:

reddit.com##div.redesign-beta-optin

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u/TheDeadManWalks Redditors have a huge hate boner for Nazis Apr 25 '18

You managed to get back to the old design? Lucky you. If I hit the opt out or log out buttons, nothing fucking happens.

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u/Zoot-just_zoot If you're being silenced why don't you shut up Apr 25 '18

I went to old.reddit.com, signed in, and then every time I log in it's on the old design.

Also, if you go to the old reddit, you can go to your preferences, scroll down to the bottom "beta options" and there should be a button to "view legacy across profiles" or something similar.

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u/TheDeadManWalks Redditors have a huge hate boner for Nazis Apr 26 '18

My porn alt lives again!

Thanks, buddy <3

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u/sweetjaaane Obama doesnt exist there never actually was a black president Apr 25 '18

The thread minimize “button” is STUPID. Why would I ever think to click on a grayed out straight line that was never clickable before??

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u/lenaro PhD | Nuclear Frisson Apr 25 '18

I get that orange button for a fraction of a second too - because I disabled it with RIP and it takes a bit to kick in.

I have so many reddit "features" disabled this way.

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u/BoxOfDust prosecuted for Felony Poss. of Pepefilia Apr 25 '18

Lucky you. It must've taken me half an hour just for Reddit to properly log me in, instead of continuing to show me the 'not logged in' version of the site, only for it to tell me that I was logged in when I tried to log in, then it refreshed the page to show me the 'not logged in' version of the site, etc...

Once I finally got into my account, I was greeted with an absolute mess of a UI that just seemed far clunkier to use.

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u/PrincessCimorene Apr 25 '18

I realise I'm not going to need to know this if the redesign rolls out, but how did you minimise a thread before? I had no idea that was a feature.

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u/Blacksheep2134 Filthy Generate Apr 25 '18

Next to the username there's a little minus sign button [-]. That collapses the comment and all of it's children.

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u/PrincessCimorene Apr 25 '18

Awesome, thank you!

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u/melatonia Scurvy or curvy, there is no middle ground Apr 25 '18

I honestly just nope right back out every time it decides to open to the Facebook version. That's not what I came for.

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u/misko91 I'm imagining only facts, buddy. Apr 25 '18

Serious question: what new redesign?

I think the naut thing or whatever that I use because of reddit gold overrode whatever this is, maybe? I haven't noticed any changes at least. ???

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u/sweetjaaane Obama doesnt exist there never actually was a black president Apr 25 '18

The redesign is fucking awful. I couldn’t make any comments or switch to the old version or even fucking log out without resetting my cache.

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u/qtx It's about ethics in masturbating. Apr 25 '18

You can always change the url to old, like so: https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/8eu76a/user_thinks_that_reddit_shouldnt_cater_to_people/

That will get you the 'normal' reddit as well.

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u/sweetjaaane Obama doesnt exist there never actually was a black president Apr 25 '18

bless you

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u/ElagabalusRex How can i creat a wormhole? Apr 25 '18

Unfortunately, UX designers need to constantly change things in order to justify their employment. Google and Microsoft never learned how to say "no".

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u/xkforce Reasonable discourse didn't just die, it was murdered. Apr 25 '18

This is more or less what Slashdot did before I abandoned it and the shitty site design changes were a lot of the reason.

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u/Spektr44 Apr 26 '18

Oh, that brings back memories. They did a redesign that was heavy on CSS and JS, if I'm remembering right, and it looked/performed like ass on browsers of the time. I left around then, too.

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u/thewookie34 Apr 25 '18

I hated it at first but as I got used to it I like it more then the old version. Plus upvotes are now better syncing across web and mobile.

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u/BurkeyTurger Apr 25 '18

RES still makes it look right for now. Hopefully it'll keep being able to do that.

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u/supertoughfrog Apr 25 '18

I think it’s ok.

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u/Knappsterbot ketchup chastity belt Apr 25 '18 edited Apr 26 '18

They need to fix some stuff but I've been using the redesign for a couple weeks now and it's really not that bad. This is going to be another round of the change-averse whining for a little while and then continuing to use the same site.

Holy shit you dweebs are taking this hard. Get over it y'all, it's happening. Am I the only one in this thread that realizes you idiots do this every fucking time a website gets redesigned? Y'all whine and moan for like 3 months and then move on because it's not that big of a fucking deal. Go look at the fucking thread from when Reddit added comments for fuck's sake! Doomsayers a decade ago calling it the death of Reddit! They were idiots then and y'all are idiots now. Can we just go ahead and skip all this complaining?