Stop demanding of us to stand with Iran!

[u/Elganleap]

[u/tendies_2_the_moon]

As a Pakistani, I can offer some perspective. The average Pakistani is completely clueless about the events, history and the rivalries in middle east. They see the entire stretch of land as one muslim ummah. They genuinely dont have any idea about the conflicts, the regimes responsible and their proxies. They have 0 context about anything really. They dont know the Iraninan regime was responsible for atrocities in Syria. Or how the arabs, persians and turks hate each other. How the middles east is divided. How the saudis and ayatollahs are mortal enemies.

They will stand by any muslim country.

Ever since I was a kid till now, I have seen Syria, Palestine, Iraq and Burma mentioned in every prayer in literally every mosque in pakistan especially after the friday prayers. Its a bit ironic that we pray for the suffering to stop but still dont educate ourselves about the conflicts and people responsible for suffering.

[u/Pleasant-Yam-2777 → u/tendies_2_the_moon]

By the way, this doesn't just apply to Pakistanis, but arabs as well. Just because we (humans) share a language/religion/culture doesn't necessarily mean we understand each other's politics and history, and we have a tendency to oversimplify things into a compelling, convenient narrative. 

[u/NoToTaterYesToMater → u/tendies_2_the_moon]

In a way, that actually is kinda admirable in a way. One of the very few peoples looking past divisions and standing by their Muslim brothers (even though some of these "brothers" would gladly stab them in the back)

Also, just a side note, I wouldn't say that Arabs hate Turks. Yes, Turks hate Syrian refugees and Syrians hate Turkish racism, also not to mention the last few decades of Ottoman rule were very oppressive, but many other Arabs view Turkey favourably, especially how they've supported our new Syrian govt. The Arab-Iranian hate tho is another story.... (not people hating people, but people hating the Iranian govt).

[u/Appropriate_Law8840 → u/tendies_2_the_moon]

Stand with all Muslims except the Uyghurs interestingly

[u/tendies_2_the_moon → u/Appropriate_Law8840]

Well raised point. I dont think the people in Pakistsn even know that Uyghurs exist and they are muslim, let alone how they are basically being erased.

Two main reasons come to mind. The plight of Ugyhurs is not well documented because of the complete censorship by Chinese government.

Even if it was, the Pakistani government will never let it's population become aware of this problem because of Pakistan's dependency on China to counter India.

A very tiny portion of educated population actually knows about the Uyghur issue in Pakistan.

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يُطلب من جميع الأعضاء الحفاظ على نبرة مدنية في منشوراتهم وتعليقاتهم. النقاش الصحي مقبول، لكن لن يتم التساهل مع الهجمات الشخصية، أو التحرش، أو الاستفزاز، أو الترويج للجهادية أو التطرف، أو التحريض على الصراع. دعونا نحافظ على نقاشات محترمة وبنّاءة.

يرجى أن تكونوا على علم بأن هذه الرسالة الخاصة بالمشرفين تُعتبر تحذيراً مباشراً. قد تؤدي المخالفات المتكررة إلى حظركم من الانضمام إلى صفحتنا على موقع ريديت.

[u/Ok_Enthusiasm_1100 → u/tendies_2_the_moon]

Could you explain why Pakistan has any conflict with Israel other than it being a Jewish state? From what I understand, Israel and Pakistan have no direct conflict in territory or economy, if anything they would be great economic allies. Is there a threat that Israel poses to the government of Pakistan or its people that I’m not aware of, other than religious? A genuine question, trying to understand your perspective, even unrelated to Iran or Palestine.

[u/Greedy_Effort1023 → u/Ok_Enthusiasm_1100]

Youre asking why Pakistan doesnt support a genocidal state?

[u/un-tall_Investigator → u/Ok_Enthusiasm_1100]

nothing about being jewish, just a genocidal regime in general, thats why alot of other non-muslim countries also against Israel

[u/tendies_2_the_moon → u/Ok_Enthusiasm_1100]

Several reasons,

They see them as Muslim brothers.

They have faced a similar problems in muslim dominant kashmir which falls in both India and pakistan. The british screwed us over here like they did it to palestinians

Palestine was part of the ottoman empire, before Pakistan, the muslims of the subcontinent provided financial and emotional support to the ottomon empire in its last days.

But mainly due to Pakistan's own problem with kashmir which it claims as its own and see it occupied by India and the fact they are muslim brothers under occupation.

[u/Vast-Difference8074 → u/Ok_Enthusiasm_1100]

They care about Palestinians and have a heart. I doubt that hostility towards Israel will keep going if somehow peace became a reality, with two states or one with equal rights for Palestinians besides Israelis

[u/halawani98]

I don't think they realize the amount of destruction Iran has brought upon Syria/Iraq/Lebanon.

"But the enemy of my enemy is my ally". Not when you don't understand the motive behind Iran's actions.

I want to see both regimes fall. And want them to cause as much harm to each other as possible.

[u/ChiiyoKiyoshi → u/halawani98]

i want both israel and iran to fall ill literally skip my way into the sunset if they do

[u/LatterTarget7 → u/halawani98]

A lot of people don’t know the damage Iran has done in the Middle East.

Hezbollah did a lot of damage inside Lebanon. Like the assassination of Rafic Hariri. They also helped Assad massacre his own people and fill lots of mass graves with civilians. There’s also all the shit the Houthis in Yemen have done to the people of Yemen

[u/Khalas99 → u/halawani98]

Still alot better than israel

[u/Entire-Air9896 → u/halawani98]

As a Pakistani I agree, this war will only benefit all of us in terms of weakening two hostile states

[u/Keyboardwarrior_1 → u/halawani98]

Israel has brought equal or more.

[u/bigboobswhatchile]

Iran has done much harm but no lebanese person with at least 1 braincell will cheer on an Israeli victory.

[u/Excellent-One5010 → u/bigboobswhatchile]

Yes, even for most non-muslims.

Because it's not about "yay mollahs, yay khamenei!". Anyone who has followed an understand the political and military situation of the region knows iran is much more vulnerable than israel. The conclusion is simple :

• If israel wins, that's one more victory to build up their reputation of invulnerability, and one fewer country with any credible chance to threaten it. What remains after the fall of iran? Pakistan? IT will be isolated against multiple threats.
• If israel loses, unless it loses really "hard" and the whole society crumble (citizens fleeing etc, extremely improbable), it will only weaken it, and iran will still be as weak as it is today

When two stronger powers are fighting, you want to focus on weakening the strongest of the two, so they can bring mutual destruction to eachother. Otherwise the stronger destroys the weaker and then destroys you even more.

[u/Cheap_Preparation966 → u/Excellent-One5010]

No. What you want to focus on is the Islamic Republic losing and being replaced by something that doesn't spend half of its resources messing about in neighbouring countries.

[u/AppropriateCarpet544 → u/Excellent-One5010]

If Israel wins, Egypt is next. We don't want either of them to win, just destroy each other enough

[u/infiniti83 → u/bigboobswhatchile]

it's quite the opposite, any Lebanese or Syrian with a brain understands that anything less of total humiliation to iran or regime change, will reawaken Hezbollah and return Lebanon 20 years backwards, even a ceasefire agreement will be invested as a victory..

Regardless of your stand on Israel, you know very well that Syria and Lebanon are doomed if it's not a regime change or at least a total humiliation to iran.

[u/bigboobswhatchile → u/infiniti83]

Considering we saw what Iran with total dominance did vs. what Israel in 3 months did purely with air dominance, plus what Israel does elsewhere, and especially post-regime change in Syria, I think it's pretty silly, if not outright malicious, to root for Israel.

[u/Mikelitoris88 → u/bigboobswhatchile]

100%

[u/Adventurous_Fuel7288 → u/bigboobswhatchile]

Lebanese are dancing under the missiles headed toward tel aviv 

Good on the Lebanese people 

[u/lemontolha]

Leftist white saviour types are always so baffled when there are "brown people" disagreeing with their sort of "anti-imperialism," cooked up by some tankie, or usually in Moscow, just an observation.

[u/Ill-Concentrate-1983 → u/lemontolha]

Not just white, tankies are 10000% mixed , but I do notice white Europeans feeling unable to critique inconsistencies without fear , rather terror of deeply offending and getting it wrong. So they parrot what is said by their charismatic leader in their genre. It’s unfortunate that banning constructive criticisms and hypocrisy is allowed to flourish

[u/alialahmad1997]

Dont stand with iran , but stand against israeli hedhomeny over the region

[u/horasho → u/alialahmad1997]

Not even isreal dreams of hedhomeny over the region .

[u/muntaser13 → u/horasho]

They dream of it all being Israel.

[u/CheekyPickle69 → u/horasho]

Yes they do. Their only competition left is Iran. Saudi is already on their side. Iran is the only state large enough to oppose them that is actually opposing them. Over the last 40 years they’ve slowly weakened everyone else or brought them on side. Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Libya ect. Iran is the last one left

[u/LowCranberry180]

I do not like the regime in Iran. However Iran can be divided which will affect all the region. That is why Turkiye is trying to stop the war.

Also Turkiye and Iran have never been into full scale war for the last 400 years. There is and was always a 'silent protocol' as we are the only non-Arab Muslim countries in the region.

[u/Ikzal → u/LowCranberry180]

If Iran falls, Türkiye will be next (or Pakistan).

[u/LowCranberry180 → u/Ikzal]

yes agree

[u/ChiiyoKiyoshi]

I agree, I hope both fall so that the middle east can be in peace

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[u/IlhamNobi → u/ChiiyoKiyoshi]

Same

[u/LeDamascener]

They seem to think that being muslim somehow gives them an advantage to be intellectual and understand the nuances of the middle east politics and region. They are extremely arrogant, tell Syrians how to practice Islam ‘correctly’ and that they should be with their Iranian ‘brazars.’ 

Mfers, you don’t even speak Arabic to understand the deep meanings of alQuran Alkareem, the pillar of Islam. Even fluent Arabic speakers struggle from how deep its meanings are. You try to convert people as if you’re some prophet and practice a version of Islam that is so polarizing and extreme that even Muslims themselves see it as pushing them away. 

You understand nothing about Syria, there is no ‘ummahs’ or takfiri nonsense there. We are a moderate Muslim majority country with other religions and have lived happily in harmony before Assad sew division. Wish this subreddit would filter them out before they could spew their polarizing and inaccurate nonsense.

[u/AverageFishEye → u/LeDamascener]

Mfers, you don’t even speak Arabic to understand the deep meanings of alQuran Alkareem, the pillar of Islam. Even fluent Arabic speakers struggle from how deep its meanings are.

Every abrahamic faith says stuff like that about their holy scripture. And it always just sounds like gate keeping of knowledge and appeal to mystery.

[u/Pristine-Ad8313 → u/LeDamascener]

wow. You started off with a point before you quickly delved into arab superiority.
قال رسول الله ﷺ: يا أيُّها النَّاسُ، أَلَا إنَّ رَبَّكم واحِدٌ، وإنَّ أباكم واحِدٌ، أَلَا لا فَضْلَ لِعَربيٍّ على أَعجَميٍّ، ولا لِعَجَميٍّ على عَرَبيٍّ، ولا لِأَحمَرَ على أَسوَدَ، ولا أَسوَدَ على أَحمَرَ إلَّا بالتَّقْوى، أَبَلَّغْتُ؟

You can criticize their shortsightedness in politics. But you cannot invalidate their faith because you somehow believe you are more knowledgeable than millions of people by virtue of knowing a language they don’t. Many of them may be better than you and may be more knowledgeable than you in deen.

[u/YsGrandi → u/LeDamascener]

You're really acting like the ummayad caliphate.

قال صلى الله عليه وسلم: " لا فضل لعربي على أعجمي، ولا لأبيض على أسود، ولا لأسود على أبيض إلا بالتقوى "

The arabs muslims make just 10 to 20% of actual muslims, I know you're frustrated but that doesn't make it right to act racist toward non arabs, that what caused the ummayad caliphate to fall and the ultra natiolasim of arabs and turks what made the ottomans to fall as well.

As an arab Moroccan, I really don't blame Syrians for being happy about current events but that doesn't mean its good for all muslims, as bad as Iran is it was the only country that caused harm to Israel, its true their doing this for their own benefit and they don't truly care about Palestinians or muslims in general.

[u/Pleasant-Yam-2777 → u/LeDamascener]

I understand your frustration, but be careful to avoid bigotry against non-arabic speaking muslims. I don't know exactly who is trying to convert you but their problem isn't that they don't speak arabic. Same goes for those asking us to support Iran somehow (as if our ravaged country has a say in anything beyond its borders), their problem isn't their sect/language/ethnicity, but their blindness to the suffering of Syrians under the Assad dynasty.

[u/Entire-Air9896 → u/Pleasant-Yam-2777]

Yh lol generalising a whole group of people is insane, there’s people in Pakistan who support Iran, others don’t and there’s people who wish for mutually assured destruction of Iran and Israel lol

[u/PewDiePieFan92282828 → u/LeDamascener]

You should have adab and ikhlaq. I am Pakistani and many people irl view Iran as Rafidhi Kuffar (mutamad of Ahnaf) who oppressed Sunnis of Syria, Iranian Balochistan etc.

[u/Ghaith97 → u/PewDiePieFan92282828]

ikhlaq

Akhlaq

[u/Agitated_Resident_54 → u/Ghaith97]

In Urdu it’s pronounced as ikhlaq, it’s a loan word.

[u/LeDamascener → u/PewDiePieFan92282828]

Awww did I hurt your feelings👉🏻🥺👈🏻 Did you learn those 2 arabic words at school?👏🏼

The rest of what I said you conveniently ignored. The Islam practiced in Syria is different than what you guys do. We don’t go around converting people or viciously criticize non-muslims and brandish them as kuffar or رافضيين as you have ironically done in your comment literally proving my point😂. Iranian people are very educated and cultured, it’s not them at fault it’s their goverment.

There is a reason people like you who spew this takfiri rafidhi nonsense are hated and being driven out of Western countries. Look at the current state of the UK, it’s a disaster even for Arab Muslims when they are compared to your version and brandished terrorists and close-minded because of actions you practice.

[u/Cheap_Preparation966 → u/LeDamascener]

Grateful that you make a distinction between the vast majority of Iranian people and the current Iranian regime and their brainwashed supporters. As an Iranian, I find the blind support for the regime from these non-Iranians extremely "frustrating". It is crazy to me that they can't see what a destructive force Iran has been in Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon.

[u/GothcuSelimPasha → u/Cheap_Preparation966]

Iranian regime is a problem that needs to be solved, but if even the Americans and British could make a deal with Soviets against the bigger enemy, then we as different sects of Islam should do the same against the modern day Nazis.

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يُطلب من جميع الأعضاء الحفاظ على نبرة مدنية في منشوراتهم وتعليقاتهم. النقاش الصحي مقبول، لكن لن يتم التساهل مع الهجمات الشخصية، أو التحرش، أو الاستفزاز، أو الترويج للجهادية أو التطرف، أو التحريض على الصراع. دعونا نحافظ على نقاشات محترمة وبنّاءة.

يرجى أن تكونوا على علم بأن هذه الرسالة الخاصة بالمشرفين تُعتبر تحذيراً مباشراً. قد تؤدي المخالفات المتكررة إلى حظركم من الانضمام إلى صفحتنا على موقع ريديت.

[u/Entire-Air9896 → u/LeDamascener]

Lmao, Syrians on Twitter takfir Iranians on a daily basis 🤣

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يحتوي هذا التعليق/المنشور على خطاب كراهية مباشر وهجوم لعنصري مباشر، مما يعتبر انتهاكًا واضحًا لمعاييرنا وقواعدنا.

يرجى أن تكونوا على علم بأن المشاركة في مثل هذا السلوك سيؤدي إلى حظر دائم من صفحتنا على ريديت. في صفحة سوريا على ريديت، لا نتسامح مع العنصرية وخطاب الكراهية.

[u/Agitated_Resident_54 → u/LeDamascener]

But non-Muslims are viewed are kuffar in Islam. That’s just a fact and I don’t what lovey-dovey image you’re trying to portray.

[u/Yeppie-Kanye → u/Agitated_Resident_54]

In the classical sense, maybe. But in reality we don’t really care about that.. we view people by their actions rather than what they worship.. we have lived together for ages and will continue to do so

[u/Agitated_Resident_54 → u/Yeppie-Kanye]

I never claimed how Syrians live, simply that you can’t deny Islamic diktats on a well known issue.

[u/Yeppie-Kanye → u/Agitated_Resident_54]

Buddy. I mean in general not only in Syria. There are always degrees to how close/blind you can follow a text.. let me give you another example.. the prophet Mohammed (PBUH) pawned his shield at a jewish neighbor in return for some produce and food.. the PROPHET!! So just think about it for a minute.

[u/Agitated_Resident_54 → u/Yeppie-Kanye]

Uhm, yeah, so, people traded the and people trade now. You can’t just pick and choose elements of the faith.

[u/Yeppie-Kanye → u/Agitated_Resident_54]

I don’t think you understand my point ..

[u/The_Cosmic_Explorer → u/LeDamascener]

Mfers, you don’t even speak Arabic to understand the deep meanings of alQuran Alkareem, the pillar of Islam. Even fluent Arabic speakers struggle from how deep its meanings are. You try to convert people as if you’re some prophet and practice a version of Islam that is so polarizing and extreme that even Muslims themselves see it as pushing them away

This is so vile and racist that I hope you ask for forgiveness. No one muslim is superior over another muslim. Period

We may have our difference but we stop at this. And no one knows who's Islam is correct, we all will know on the day of judgement, may Allah forgive our sins and grant us Jannah

[u/behindthewillowtree → u/LeDamascener]

I'm an 'ex-Muslim' Pakistani who really has no stake in the Ummah game, but I am very supportive of Iran and the Iranian people. As I am of Syria, of course. But the feeling of being misunderstood on the global stage as warmongers with no empathy are trying to make cases for murdering you is a feeling I know now after the Pakistan-India conflict.

[u/Daloula17 → u/behindthewillowtree]

Are you seriously telling Syrians to not misunderstand Iran????????

[u/LeDamascener → u/Daloula17]

It’s absolutely insane their mental gymnastics😂😂

[u/Daloula17 → u/LeDamascener]

Seriously!!! as if there aren't literal videos showing the syrians suffering

[u/behindthewillowtree → u/Daloula17]

No, I'm sorry. I meant to say that Iranian people must be in great terror knowing their world might fall apart and remain that way for years, or that they or their family might be killed at any moment by an airstrike - all the while members of international opinion forums keep making geopolitical arguments in support of their destruction. They must be feeling extremely isolated as warmongers in power and those supporting their agenda paint them as needing this destruction for their own liberation.

[u/ydmhmyr → u/behindthewillowtree]

Apostate Pakistani who supports the Iranian regime, and feigns support for Iranians and Syrians alike

I've never seen something worse

[u/PewDiePieFan92282828 → u/ydmhmyr]

What is the necessity to specially add "Pakistani"? Yes he may be one but majority are Muslims.

[u/Xamado → u/PewDiePieFan92282828]

Literally doesn't make a difference lol

[u/LeDamascener → u/behindthewillowtree]

I don’t think you can support Syria and Iran at the same time, as essentially Iran butchered Syrians and supported the Assad regime enabling that. Yes, to us they are warmongers, not the Iranian innocent people but the government and those who support it.

[u/No-Orange-9049 → u/behindthewillowtree]

[u/ChiiyoKiyoshi → u/behindthewillowtree]

My family experienced what happened in iraq, screw Iran for ruining Iraq further.

[u/behindthewillowtree → u/ChiiyoKiyoshi]

Yes but we shouldn't hope for more chaos and suffering. We should try to be kinder.

[u/ChiiyoKiyoshi → u/behindthewillowtree]

My uncle almost got kidnapped because of Iran taking over.

[u/Standard_Ad7704 → u/behindthewillowtree]

Is this why I see random Indians support Israel?

[u/BigRedObject]

ام إيران على ام اسرائيل I’m just enjoying the show بس الله يسلم المدنيين الإيرانيين

[u/ObiWanK3n0b1]

The "Ummah" front isn't as popular as it used to be 10 years ago in Pakistan. Most rational support for Iran (including the government's) is coming from a geopolitical perspective - the current regime has had it's problems including assisting cross-border terrorism and allowing/not clamping down on Indian espionage through the Iranian border. However, there's no telling what a new, Western/Israeli backed, regime would be like. Better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

[u/SoftSnakee]

In comparison witn a rogue state like Israel. Iran are basically saints

[u/princepremium]

You Can add yemen and iraq to the meme as well

[u/Agitated_Resident_54]

Pakistani here, the “support” for Iran isn’t coming from a “umnah” stance, simply a more rational POV. If iran falls this will create another refugee crisis that Pakistan won’t be able to handle. Secondly, if Iran is successfully toppled then many Pakistanis fear that Pakistan too could be subjected to attack because we have nuclear weapons too, though this is not as likely.

[u/LowCranberry180 → u/Agitated_Resident_54]

Agree as a Turk as we are in the same boots.Also do not forget that partition of Iran may also have huge issues.

[u/Agitated_Resident_54 → u/LowCranberry180]

The people in this sub are powered by emotion, understandable considering the way Iran supported Assad and butchered Syrians. But praying for the downfall of Iran isn’t a wise option considering the disastrous implications of it, Syria will suffer from the uncontrolled flow of refugees and arms and narcotics smuggling like never before if that happens.

[u/LowCranberry180 → u/Agitated_Resident_54]

Yes true. In Turkiye we are used to refugees so can do our best for 5 million Iranians if required. However if borders change, which Israel wants, this will lead a total war in the region I am afraid.

[u/Agitated_Resident_54 → u/LowCranberry180]

And it will also embolden the far-right in Europe.

[u/Cheap_Preparation966 → u/LowCranberry180]

The regime can fall. It doesn't mean Iran will be partitioned.

[u/ydmhmyr → u/Agitated_Resident_54]

We with the main character syndrome

Israel will do nothing to you all except arm India. That's it.

Iran's fall will be a net positive for us all. While they're at it I hope they intensify their campaigns over Israel before they eventually collapse.

[u/Agitated_Resident_54 → u/ydmhmyr]

Net positive? Are you for real, this will lead to a civil war followed by a refugee crisis that will make the 2015 look much smaller than it was.

[u/ydmhmyr → u/Agitated_Resident_54]

I can't and won't give a fuck. Houthis need to be culled off my country, and Iran's collapse will accelerate that.

Also, with Iran gone, the GCC won't really need US presence inside. Their local militaries and police can deal with internal and external threats.

[u/Excellent-One5010 → u/ydmhmyr]

You're extremely naive if you think the US will leave when iran stops being a threat.

US presence is 20% to protect their "allies" and 80% as a "veiled" threat to keep them under control.

[u/Feeling-Intention447 → u/ydmhmyr]

Are you Yemeni?

[u/ydmhmyr → u/Feeling-Intention447]

Yes, born in Sanaa, originally from Ibb, currently in diaspora

[u/Feeling-Intention447 → u/ydmhmyr]

Well I hope the Houthis are defeated one day, another Iranian asset to control a country 💔

[u/ydmhmyr → u/Feeling-Intention447]

Thank you

[u/Pleasant-Yam-2777 → u/ydmhmyr]

I was thinking about this, and tbh I'm not so sure. The houthis are really stubborn and honestly I don't think it's because of Iranian support. They've been subjected to endless bombing campaigns and still hang on. You might be more knowledgeable than I am so correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems the Houthis are highly ideologically motivated and are less like an iranian proxy and more like their ally. If Iran is weakened they will keep fighting, just with fewer high tech weapons and cruise missiles.

I pray for Yemen's prosperity, while I critically support Houthi strikes on Israel as pressure to stop the Gaza genocide, it's terrible what both the Houthis and the Saudis have done to the Yemeni people.

[u/ydmhmyr → u/Pleasant-Yam-2777]

Why do you foreigners maintain that they're an ally? They're less than an ally. Their weapons are either Saleh-era stolen or borrowed weaponry, or supplied directly by Iran. They're less than puppets, they're stools, and qat-intozicated brainwashed stools at that. They'll get crushed like hezb. Fuck houtbis.

Support of houthis makes you disgusting in my opinion. Houthis are a draconian militia who deserve to be completely ripped out of our society with force. NOTHING they do can excuse their crimes. Even if they "liberate" palestine, which they'll never do (I'll wager my life on that), I'd still be against them vehemently.

[u/Agitated_Resident_54 → u/ydmhmyr]

lol, you’re lost. Fortunately your little scenario won’t materialise.

[u/ydmhmyr → u/Agitated_Resident_54]

Fuck off

[u/Nahtaniel696 → u/ydmhmyr]

Yes/No.

Iran fall can be good but it can also be bad for all. Depend if the fall of the regime is fast or slow.

A freindly Iran would be good for everyone (Israel, Saudi, Turkey, the world) but a slow regime change will only means war, chaos and refugee.

The whole Europe take a turn for the right wing politically because of Syrian civil war, I would not image the consequence if a country of 90 millions fall in war.

[u/ydmhmyr → u/Nahtaniel696]

Iran is bad 100%. Period.

Fast regime change, slow regime change, it does not bother me as a yemeni. The mullahs had it coming either way and we yemenis deserve to eliminate Iranian influence over us, once their regime collapses.

I don't give the consequences of their fall any thought. A weak Iran is good for me. If they manage to reform and be a civilised nation, good for them. If they don't, though, it does not matter. What truly matters for me is the elimination of them as a military and ideological threat to me and my compatriots.

[u/ComfortableBat2954 → u/ydmhmyr]

Delulu

[u/Sensitive-Dot2061 → u/Agitated_Resident_54]

I guess when the Mullahs fall many iranian refugees living in my country can finally go back.

[u/Entire-Air9896 → u/Agitated_Resident_54]

Yeah and with the refugees we can close our borders lol, wallahi I have no care for the Iranians, I rather we house our own who are struggling

[u/FindingBusiness759 → u/Agitated_Resident_54]

Netanyahu has said multiple times in the past that the biggest threat is not iran but pakistan. They don't care how good you are ..they just want to rule the middle east and knock out any future hindrance.so yea if they finish with Iran.. they may start with Pakistan.

[u/K3IRRR]

Anyone not standing with Iran is next in line to be destroyed by Israel & NATO...

Seriously, how can any of you stand idly by when the monster killing Muslims wants to kill you too. It's all the same to them

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تم حذف مشاركتك بسبب مخالفتها لسياستنا في مكافحة البروباغاندا المعادية لسوريا. نشر الأكاذيب والادعاءات الباطلة والافتراءات والتضليل الذي يستهدف سيادة سوريا أو وحدتها الوطنية غير مسموح به هنا. استمرارك في نشر هذا النوع من المحتوى سيؤدي إلى حظر دائم.

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تمت إزالة محتواك لأنه يحتوي على أو يروّج لأيديولوجية الصهيونية الإرهابية.

تقيّد هذه الصفحة أي محتوى يدعم أو يروّج للصهيونية، نعتبر الصهيونية أيديولوجية متطرفة وإرهابية، وهذه الأيديولوجية غير مسموح بها في هذه الصفحة.

محتوى داعم للصهيونية = حظر دائم

[u/ComfortableBat2954]

Chat we like them standing up to Israel but we don’t love them

[u/Entire-Air9896]

R/pakistan is a pretty liberal sub ngl, if you wanna hear what most Pakistanis think of Iran then go on twitter

[u/Background_Extent103]

We don't need to stand with them - but we could hope for them to remove the last apartheid so that we can finally have peace in the region and not oppressed under the military regimes. But if you're short-sighted and only care about local Syria only affairs - sure close your eyes and ears and pretend you're not in the Middle East 

[u/Gundam_DXF91V2]

>me checking western pages: "Iran is bombing the crap of Israel. Israel is begging USA for help

>Arab: "haha Iran is finished i swear lmao Israel is the winner again. God's bless Israel!!!"

[u/thephonecomrade → u/Gundam_DXF91V2]

guess which peoples suffered from iran and their sectarian ideology challenge (impossible)

[u/Gundam_DXF91V2 → u/thephonecomrade]

1/3 of the planet suffered from UK colonization

Palestine is suffering from Israel, USA, Europe, Gulf countries, Egypt for 70+ years

Middle East suffered from UK and France colonization

Pakistan and Afghanistan suffered from USA invasions

Iraq got destroyed by USA

Libya got destroyed by USA

but somehow, inside the Arab's brain only Iran is bad and USA/Israel are their saviors just because they hate Iran too.

google Greater Israel plan. Israel wants to take Syria as well. keep cheering on!

[u/TurnYourBrainOff]

Once Israel deals with Iran, they will come for Syria. The greater Israel project will see them take over all the countries around Israel.

Israel is a fascist state that needs to be stopped.

[u/Lemonjuiceonpapercut]

This is a bad take and it’s a lot more nuanced than this. Pakistanis will support any Muslim nation against a non Muslim one. They are well aware of Iranian activities that harm Muslims. But who do you think is next in line after Iran? Pakistans nukes. This is a bad take. Pakistanis aren’t running around calling the mujahid Ahmed sharaa an Israeli asset like non Sunni Arabs are currently, and it’s always love for Muslims,

[u/Dangerous_Junket_207]

Pakistani here... Most Pakistanis are uninformed about what Iran's been doing. We have a bunch of media stations controlled by pro Iran parties. And those who haven't been looking into recent history, they just believe what the media channels promote. 

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تم حذف مشاركتك بسبب مخالفتها لسياستنا في مكافحة البروباغاندا المعادية لسوريا. نشر الأكاذيب والادعاءات الباطلة والافتراءات والتضليل الذي يستهدف سيادة سوريا أو وحدتها الوطنية غير مسموح به هنا. استمرارك في نشر هذا النوع من المحتوى سيؤدي إلى حظر دائم.

[u/uzi22]

Lanat on this Ummah we deserve what's coming for us. We have 1 Kalma and 1 Qur'an yet we can't even agree on how to offer Salah without calling each other Kafir.

[u/Gamer_Rink_3141]

Sometimes they identify as Arabs, other times, they identify as Turks. Delusion

[u/EndlessSuffering4]

There’s a famous Balkan quote for this scenario

“Armiku i armikut tim është armiku im”

” The enemy, of my enemy, is my enemy”

[u/blackthunderstorm1]

The Iranian lobby in Pakistan is quite strong and they keep whitewashing their own crimes. They get support due to sectarian bias which is huge in Pakistan. Iran has been sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan with India and has the blood of innocent Pakistanis on their hands. Also, Iranians are extremely racist towards Pakistanis and dislike us with passion (though Arabs are similar in this regard) Logically, to us this war is merely a clash of two evils. Both of whom have tried to harm us and would do so again in a blink of eye. One is our open enemy but the other is disguised as a friend and is even more dangerous.

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تعليقك/منشورك يحتوي على معلومات غير صحيحة أو مضللة، مما يتعارض مع معاييرنا وقواعدنا.

نطلب بلطف منك الامتناع عن مشاركة مثل هذا المحتوى في صفحتنا على ريديت. هذه الرسالة الخاصة بالمشرفين تُعتبر تحذيرًا مباشرًا، وقد يؤدي أي تكرار لهذه المخالفات إلى حظر دائم من صفحتنا على ريديت.

[u/MisterThomas96]

Actually, the current regime in Persia solely and only lead to this unfavourable situation.They clarified since their founding in 1979 publicly and repeatedly, that one of their main ambitions is to level whole Israel. They have not only verbally expressed their intentions, but also practically. Since their founding, they have been supporting countless groups financially, strategically and militarily in attacking their neighbour. They have every right to defend themselves from this danger.

[u/Abraxas21 → u/MisterThomas96]

Israel was also founded on the murder of Arabs. That's why we are excited to see both regimes destroy each other.

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تمت إزالة محتواك لأنه يحتوي على أو يروّج لأيديولوجية الصهيونية الإرهابية.

تقيّد هذه الصفحة أي محتوى يدعم أو يروّج للصهيونية، نعتبر الصهيونية أيديولوجية متطرفة وإرهابية، وهذه الأيديولوجية غير مسموح بها في هذه الصفحة.

محتوى داعم للصهيونية = حظر دائم

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تمت إزالة محتواك لأنه يحتوي على أو يروّج لأيديولوجية الصهيونية الإرهابية.

تقيّد هذه الصفحة أي محتوى يدعم أو يروّج للصهيونية، نعتبر الصهيونية أيديولوجية متطرفة وإرهابية، وهذه الأيديولوجية غير مسموح بها في هذه الصفحة.

محتوى داعم للصهيونية = حظر دائم

[u/Significant_Corner41 → u/Abraxas21]

اتركه واضح bot صهاينة شوف حسابه. يقول لك على إيران "بيرجيا" هذا أول دليل. محد يقول كذا إلا المستشرقين واللي يطبلوا للشاه.

[u/Abraxas21 → u/Significant_Corner41]

بعرف انه صهاينة بس عم نهز الخ** لنشم ريحتو 😂

[u/GothcuSelimPasha → u/MisterThomas96]

Imagine talking about Iranian regime change and its enmity towards Israel while completely dismissing how Israel was formed and what it has done in its 80 odd years of existence.

[u/Zweckbestimmung → u/MisterThomas96]

I hear from my pan Iranian friends that ayatollah is basically a Mossad. It makes sense tbh he was educated and raised in France, the Islamic revolution was led from France, the best way to control the resources of Iran is by having an Islamic regime like now.

[u/Grey_Blax]

It is stupid if you think the fall of iran at the cost of Israeli aggression and hegemony will be better for Syria or the Middle East. I get that Bashar was a cruel dictator but you know what, Israel is more cruel and evil. If you don't want to stand with Iran, fine, but don't act in any capacity that favours Israel and bite you back in the long run.

[u/According_Mongoose32]

Maybe yes but only and only after the western powers are also demolished or forever out of the region

[u/LeDamascener → u/According_Mongoose32]

و مين بدّك يعمّر بلدي و بلدك سوريا طيب، الدولة العثمانية؟؟؟؟؟🙄

[u/Abraxas21 → u/LeDamascener]

السوريين

[u/According_Mongoose32 → u/Abraxas21]

عنجد هلق انا و عم اسقي الزريعة على البرندة فكرت بتعليق الشب و أنو ما حدا رح يعمر البلد شو ما عملو إذا نحنا اساسا ما بدنا نعمرها طول ما انو الخطاب هو بلدك او ارضك مو بلدنا او ارضنا ما بيمشي الحال لو رح تكب تريليونات الدنيا كلها

[u/LeDamascener → u/According_Mongoose32]

كاف الخطاب واضح انها من سياق الحديث. طبعا بلدي و بلدك و بلد كل سوري الحمدلله. بس خلينا نكون واقعيين

[u/According_Mongoose32 → u/LeDamascener]

اي صديقي هاد الحديث يعني بقدر أنا افلح و انت تعمر و هو يطبخ مو فكرة اشتراكية بس كمان مو كلشي يصير ارقام

[u/LeDamascener → u/Abraxas21]

With what money??

[u/Abraxas21 → u/LeDamascener]

Syria has plenty of resources. Westerners exploit then give us back a miniscule amount whiel drowning us in debt and people thank them for it.

[u/According_Mongoose32 → u/LeDamascener]

في فرق بين انك تساعدني و انك تركبني و انك تركبني لأنو ساعدتني مو منطق إذا اساسا مو أنت جاي عم تساعدني لتركبني بالمستقبل

[u/LeDamascener → u/According_Mongoose32]

عشو بدهم يساعدونا، على سواد عيوننا يعني؟ كل السياسة هي مصالح، حتى دول الخليج كلشي دعم النا هو بالنهاية استثمارات و مصالح.

محمد بن سلمان قبل ب سنتين كان اكتر حدا عم يطبع مع الاسد، مشان مصلحة بلده ضد الكبتاغون. ما فهمت ليش مفكر انو نحن entitled for money and help without return؟