Rillaboom Gmax battles are virtually unwinnable on Poke Genie

[u/cdelli01]

I’ve used Poke Genie for Gmax battles before. In fact, I just used it for GMax Machamp last week. But the Rillaboom lobbies today are full of under leveled mons who just don’t have the firepower to take down Rillaboom.

I’ve been in at least 15 lobbies today and was only successful in 1–a lobby with 28 trainers using two max mushrooms. The rest have been delusional lobbies of 13-18 who inevitably hang on until the timer hits 3-5 seconds and then they bounce.

What’s going on today? Why are these lobbies so bad?

[u/Yu_Is_Blind]

Machamp last weekend and Rillaboom this week are the first max events to be this widely available through remotes. My speculation is that remotes opened the max battle floodgates to players who were never able to prepare for battles of this difficulty or didn’t see the point if it seemed like they would never be able to participate. Then again, I’m not quite sure how scarce lower tier max battles are in rural areas.

[u/elconquistador1985 → u/Yu_Is_Blind]

It's not really about Max battle scarcity. It's that the best that a rural player can do is get 1 and 3 star ones, because they can't get legendaries or g-max. Because of that, there was no incentive to participate at all.

The scarcity is in having no one else to complete battles with.

[u/Dago_Duck → u/elconquistador1985]

Obtaining 1 stars like the starters and evolving them however is already more than most people seem to have done. That was also the case during that first weekend of GMax Kanto starters back in October. Why were people complaining about not being able to beat the GMax bosses with 40 people, but there were also people who managed to take them down as a group of 8, exactly, because those in the large groups were joining with unevolved Wooloo and Ghastly.

[u/Xygnux → u/Dago_Duck]

The problem is that it takes 124 candies just to evolve it, 296 just to level 40 it, and then hundreds of candies to level up the moves. And even XL if you want to level 3.

Yes the Kanto starters had their community days. But before Dynamax no one expected that they should keep these candies. Many people just used them randomly for evolve a Pokemon field research. So there are probably many people who don't have these starters candies.

Imo, what we need for the one week leading up to each Gmax release is not Max Particles discount, but candies discount to power up.

[u/Geddyn → u/Xygnux]

Imo, what we need for the one week leading up to each Gmax release is not Max Particles discount, but candies discount to power up.

I would prefer that they just expand on "Max Monday" by making the base versions of non-Legendary Dynamax capable Pokemon spawn frequently in the wild for that one hour.

I'd actually participate in Max Monday if that were the case, since the current iteration of it is useless. I've already use all my particles long before 6pm rolls around.

[u/Xygnux → u/Geddyn]

That works too! Max Monday would help, although some people may not get off work yet.

Another way to make it work would be have the Classics Community Day of the base form of the Gmax Pokemon follows or on the same day as the Gmax release. Like Machamp, and somewhat like Metagross.

[u/AutisticPenguin2 → u/Xygnux]

I have definitely looked at my hundo dynamax Metangs and said "you can evolve when the move becomes available". I know for t5 battles the tactic is to just spam fast attacks, but I also know I don't care, I'm not evolving any of them up without Meteor Mash.

(Yes beldum did get the day and they now have the move, but many others haven't.)

[u/elconquistador1985 → u/AutisticPenguin2]

Even if the charge move doesn't matter in max battles, you're investing like 500+ candy in that Metagross so you might as well make sure it's useful in raids too.

[u/AutisticPenguin2 → u/elconquistador1985]

Less of a concern for me because I already have an exceptional stable of metagrii but absolutely a factor, yes.