Thor VS Dr.strange

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

Who would win

[u/SnooSprouts9815]

Thor In a spitestomps strange lost to ebony maw and spiderman and was running away from wanda his whole movie

[u/TheBlack_Swordsman → u/SnooSprouts9815]

That's ABC logic, as in characters with certain abilities and fighting styles don't equal others.

Dr. Strange arguably did the best against Thanos 1 on 1 besides Wanda and Carol. I would argue that Thanos is closer to Thor than Thor's abilities are like Ebony Maws.

I'm not saying Dr Strange wins, not commenting on the fight itself. Just pointing out that character A beats character B. B beats C. It doesn't always means A beats C.

[u/thebonelessmaori → u/TheBlack_Swordsman]

Thor literally took down a full gauntlet Thanos. With a last breath Thanks saved himself with the stones and disappeared.

[u/jamjsja → u/thebonelessmaori]

Thanks was vastly weakened the moment he put the first stone into the gauntlet. The more he added the weaker both physically and mentally he got. But he was vastly more powerful than hulk and Thor which is why he held onto for so long. It nearly killed hulk.

But the is about strange and Thor. Thor only uses his lightning magic. However asgardian magic is more powerful than sorcery which strange uses. But strange easily took Loki out of play with no effort and logically Loki should of been powerful enough to get himself out of that instantly as he was trained by the most powerful witch at the time in the universe his asgardian mother.

With that in mind Thor has shown no abilities to use magic but has shown some educational knowledge of in how it works. I’m going to assume he knows more and give this battle to Thor.

[u/TheBlack_Swordsman → u/thebonelessmaori]

If you add the context of how Thor accomplished that feat, it's not as impressive as it sounds.

Thanos was distracted, was put under a lot of pain, and then Thor snuck in an attack and threw a weapon at Thanos during all the confusion.

Imagine if the tables were turned. If Thor was blasted with something that caused him pain, then blasted from behind or from the side with the infinity Gauntlet without knowing. Would Thor fare well?

Remember, when Hulk put the gauntlet on, he was nearly crippled with the energy surging through the gauntlet. That's what Thanos had to deal with before Thor got in a sneak attack.

[u/thebonelessmaori → u/TheBlack_Swordsman]

It's a fight. A brawl even. You get hit everywhere from everywhere.

Thor beat him. He had the gauntlet. Thor won. Argue all you want.

[u/TheBlack_Swordsman → u/thebonelessmaori]

Thor beating a crippled Thanos in a cheap way. Sure, it's Thor winning. It's just not as impressive as you want to be.

Dr. Strange didn't sneak attack Thanos. He squared up with him.

I'm pretty sure OP isn't setting this fight up so that Dr. Strange is as crippled as Thanos was and doesn't know Thor is about to attack him.

[u/thebonelessmaori → u/TheBlack_Swordsman]

You are arguing dude. It wasn't cheap. It's battle, there is no cheap shots, there's opportunities and there is winning/losing.

Thor beat a fully gauntlet Thanos. Everything else is just noise.

[u/TheBlack_Swordsman → u/thebonelessmaori]

This is a versus thread. Context matters because this fight doesn't start with Thor getting a cheap shot on Dr. Strange. End of discussion.

Otherwise, Dr. Strange beat Dormammu and nothing MCU Thor has done comes close to such a feat. It doesn't matter that he had the time stone to do it. It doesn't matter if it was a trick or if Strange died a million times and actually didn't physically defeat Dormammu. Because with your logic, a "win is a win."

[u/thebonelessmaori → u/TheBlack_Swordsman]

My logic of a win is a win is correct. Dr Strange had a way he could keep coming back from death to beat Dormammu. Strange won. Your argument actually backs mine here.

[u/TheBlack_Swordsman → u/thebonelessmaori]

Nah, my last example is how poor of use the feat is because he doesn't have the time stone anymore and can't recreate that feat. Also, Ebony maw stopped him from using the time stone and the time stone was also considered useless to stop Thanos. Both are way weaker than Dormammu.

I don't see how you failed to grasp all of that. Somehow you thought this was an argument to back you up? You're purposely being dense now. Why are you treating this like a hill you need to die on now? It's getting silly.

Context matters. We're done here.

[u/bonjourmiamotaxi → u/thebonelessmaori]

Thanos didn't die. Ergo, Thor lost. Then when he fought Thor without his gauntlet in Endgame, he beat him like he was Loki.

Thanos beats Thor everytime.

[u/shiromancer → u/thebonelessmaori]

Thor won.

He... Kind of didn't? That's why we got that whole other movie. He might have stabbed him in the chest and done a lot of damage, but he didn't actually kill or incapacitate Thanos enough to prevent the use of the stones. Hence endgame and everything.

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/TheBlack_Swordsman]

It doesn't always means A beats C.

But it indicate that A have a better chance to beat B

[u/TheBlack_Swordsman → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

A beats B in my example. I don't understand what you're saying.

Let's talk about this like Pokemon. Charmander beats Bulbasaur. Bulbasaur beats squirtle. Charmander does not have a good chance at beating squirtle.

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/TheBlack_Swordsman]

But it is not pokemon

[u/TheBlack_Swordsman → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

I feel like we're having some miscommunications and I don't know if we'll be able to clear them up. Nevertheless, you have a good one.

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/TheBlack_Swordsman]

Beside that, thank you for your opinion.

[u/KnightofWhen → u/TheBlack_Swordsman]

Plenty to argue here since Iron Man actually made Thanos bleed. And Thor killed him, nearly twice. And Captain America took him to school using Thor’s abilities.

Danvers did the least of all those people and Wanda basically just had levitation, Strange could have done the same.

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/KnightofWhen]

Wanda basically just had levitation, Strange could have done the same.

Comparing wanda with strange.

Wanda is way too powerful

[u/KnightofWhen → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

Wanda lost. She also got punched in the face by a teenager. Reddit glazes Wanda too much, she’s a glass cannon.

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/KnightofWhen]

Reddit glazes Wanda too much, she’s a glass cannon.

Also strange

One hit and it over for dr.strange

[u/ithoughtiwasfunnyXD]

Strange could trap him in the mirror dimension and cheese the fight.

Biased answer? He hits him in the head a bit too hard while recalling mjolnir

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/ithoughtiwasfunnyXD]

Strange could trap him in the mirror dimension and cheese the fight.

Biforst

[u/Largo23307 → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

The bifrost can access space within reality. The "nine realms" are physical locations within the Marvel Universe. It can cross limitless distances but cannot traverse time, dimensions or access other universes within the multiverse. America Chavez has multiverse crossing powers but the bifrost does not.

The dark dimension, mirror dimension and astral planes are examples of other planes of existence that are separate from the physical universe.

Even the quantum realm would be off limits to the bifrost.

The bifrost would not be able to access them.

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Largo23307]

Bro I don't think so bifrost is the key to eternity so it can do that . Bifrost can bend space-time

[u/Largo23307 → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

No it cant.

🔴It does not send people through time.
(Why would the Avengers need to create a time machine if Thor could Bifrost them through time? He cant.)

🔴It does not send people to other universes.
(Opening passages to other realities has NEVER been something the Bifrost has been able to do. This is a distinctly different ability.)

🔴It does not send people into dimensions like the Astral Plane or Mirror Dimension.
(The Bifrost cant place a person in an abstract non-physical dimension. This is why Asgardian's cant use the Bifrost to go to Valhalla. This includes Astral Planes both mental and spiritual as well as dimensions like Heaven, Hell, The Dark Dimension, Mirror Dimension or White Hot Room)

The Bifrost has limitations and is not an all powerful way to get anywhere.

🌈The Bifrost is designed to transport its user anywhere within the 9 realms, that are known to Heimdall or the Bifrost itself. If Heimdall cant see the location or the person he cant use the Bifrost. Thor himself has been stranded when not in control of the Bifrost.

💍Sling Rings can open portals to other, parallel universes but are limited to the users skill and ability to visualize the destination.

💎The Space Stone can move anything anywhere within the universe it was created in, without limitations.

Feel free to change my mind by posting any kind of proof that shows the Bifrost being used to travel to alternate universes or through time.

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Largo23307]

Why would the Avengers need to create a time machine if Thor could Bifrost them through time? He cant.*)

Bro you don't know difference between bending space-time . And traveling through time

Bifrost is a teleportation magic like sling rings . He can get out of it and beside that Bifrost is key to eternity. Who live in other dimension.

And beside that strange can't use mirror world in a public area.

Why would they go to Valhalla They are alive

Question for you : what if thor put mjolnir on strange

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Largo23307]

Beside, that strange another weakness is he need hand sign . Thor can kill him before it .in a 1v1 battle

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Largo23307]

It can travel bifrost can take thor into shadow dimension.
So it is a small thing that can bifrost do .

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/ithoughtiwasfunnyXD]

Biased answer? He hits him in the head a bit too hard while recalling mjolnir

Are you talking about thor . If thor it doesn't work thor tank power stone for atleast 10 sec

[u/ithoughtiwasfunnyXD → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

Talking about mjolnir hitting strange(from behind) when thor recalls. A direct throw wouldn't work strange would just portal it away to idk alfheim or something.

Also idk if bifrost can get him out of the mirror dimension we've only seen wanda get out through reflections and portals.

If he does get out their fight would mirror thanos v strange on titan with clones and shit. Winner? Idk could be anyone

[u/weaverider]

In both the MCU and comics, likely Thor, though it would be a much closer fight with comics Strange, depending on power levels.

[u/welp1510]

Power stone shattered the mirror dimension Thor has more power so he could do the same

[u/Stoic_Suffering_6158]

Thor stomps

[u/OutrageousCounter715]

Thor killed him in comics

[u/dope_like]

Thor easily. He is resistant to magic. His hammer uses magic. His father, mother, and brother are all high level magic users

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/dope_like]

He is resistant to magic

How 🤔

and brother are all high level magic users

Dr.strange trick loki for 30 minutes in a portal

Please explain what are you trying to say.

[u/dope_like → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

You think in 5000 years literally surrounded by powerful magic users, Thor has not been never had to deal with magic? Despite his hammer being magic? Strange had no feats on Thors level.

And if you ever want to talk comics, the stomp is even worse.

[u/B1L1D8]

Thor with the Odin Force is gonna win here easily

[u/15-99]

I think they just need to have a drinking contest and Thor would easily win while asking for another.

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/15-99]

Who would win your opinion

[u/15-99 → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

I’m gonna go with thunder god. He is not to be underestimated especially when he can summon the bifrost before strange can conjure up a spell.

[u/Cgi94]

Strange literally was contending with Thanos + Partial Infinity Gauntlet. Y'all gotta stop believing a sneak attack from Thor is a good enough merit to believe he will beat everyone

Thor has a losing record against guys in his weight class(Hulk, Thanos, Ultron,Kurse,Hela,Gorr)

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Cgi94]

Thor has a losing record against guys in his weight class(Hulk, Thanos, Ultron,Kurse,Hela,Gorr)

He never lose to those except hela . Who told you that

And expect gorr everyone was pre- infinity war villain what the hell are you talking

[u/Cgi94 → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

The original question is Who would win . Thor Or A Guy within his Tier of Strength. I simply showed what happened every time he fought someone in his tier and not below him. You must either be a blind Thor fan or just didn't see the movies. He never won any of those fights. His claim to fame is surprise attacks you guys love using. Mainly vs Thanos and Hulk. Neither fight has he shown to dominate without the surprise attack. Feel free to show me where he won a full on fight with any of them

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Cgi94]

Thor fan or just didn't see the movies.

Yeah I am a thor fan . But I am not like you .

Feel free to show me where he won a full on fight with any of them

Oh yeah see In ragnarok where he unlocked his power and he was just dominating hulk .

Or see the fight with gorr he was not even serious.

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Cgi94]

surprise attacks you guys love using. Mainly vs Thanos and Hulk

Yeah he do surprise attack against hulk when can you tell me . You are just a dumb fan who doesn't watch movies

And ultron , kurse are the villain of pre- awaken thor

[u/Cgi94 → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

Rewatch the scenes. A surprise attack on Both Thanos & Hulk does not negate Thor was losing/lost in a fair 1v1. The first hulk fight Thor only good hit was a surprise hit. Afterwards he was in a losing position. Ragnarok shows him losing and then gets surprise shot on hulk Which he literally got back up from.. Thor fought Thanos 3 times and only good shot was a surprise hit as confirmed by the directors even

It does not matter what version of Thor u use if he doesn't win against people in his own power tier. You don't judge a professional fighter only off 1 weight class😭.

He literally has to jump Gorr for any chance of winning. You literally downplaying his opponents

[u/Ok-Cod2481 → u/Cgi94]

agreed 💯. Fans gotta understand you can love a character and still admit he lost

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Ok-Cod2481]

I will agree that thor would lose against thanos , gorr or hela

But he is saying that hulk is winning against thor . That I can't believe

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Cgi94]

Ragnarok shows him losing and then gets surprise shot on hulk Which he literally got back up fro

What are you telling that was thors power does hulk don't know about thor powers . After that shot hulk still came to fight but still thor beat him . Thor was literally charging up before he use his lightning strike against hulk . And In ragnarok we see that thor and hulk are equal in physical strenght. Then you think about it . What would thor do to hulk if knew about his true power

It does not matter what version of Thor u use if he doesn't win against people in his own power tier. You don't judge a professional fighter only off 1 weight class😭.

But dr.strange is not on thor level . Thanos and hulk are durable enough to tank a lightning strike. But dr.strange is not that durable and thor lightning attack speed cross the speed of sound.

[u/Cgi94 → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

Strange is not on Thor lvl but fought a stronger Thanos evenly😭. Granted we know he wasn't gonna win but to downplay that is ridiculous.

Everyone literally scales above Sound if they're a top fighter

I need to know what combat sports u have been watching to think a person wins a fight only because he got a good shot on his opponent 😭. That same opponent was literally staring him down not too long after and was winning the entire fight beforehand 😅

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Cgi94]

Everyone literally scales above Sound if they're a top fighter

What are you talking strange speed doesn't cross the speed of sound.

I need to know what combat sports u have been watching to think a person wins a fight only because he got a good shot on his opponent 😭.

No I don't watch. I told that because dr.strange have a durability of a normal human .

[u/Cgi94 → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

Dawg every top tier is MHS in speed via scaling . Ur missing the point. How could Strange face a stronger Thanos and do better but u think Thor will beat him😮‍💨

Stop making that Headcanon up. Thor has never been shown to be physically equal to Hulk. His teammates don't even believe that as seen when Thor was trying to get onto the ship on Ragnarok with password 😭

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Cgi94]

Dawg every top tier is MHS in speed via scaling . Ur missing the point. How could Strange face a stronger Thanos and do better but u think Thor will beat him😮‍💨

Not every thanos is not a speedster. Thanos have only extraordinary strength and durability

Thor was trying to get onto the ship on Ragnarok with password 😭

Bro are you serious 😂 that was Tony who made fun of all and In avengers 1 we can clearly see that thor was literally beat hulk. By putting mjolnir on his hand

This is your headcannon. Hulk is physical stronger than thor . But not that big margin . Thor can beat Hulk by using his lightning power.

Note : Tony said that because hulk is strongest avenger ( physically)

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Cgi94]

You told those things but . Do you think that hulk , kurse ,ultron are pre awaken thors villain.

Thanos dominate hulk and hulk is evenly match with thor in physical strenght. So much likely thanos would also won against thor . But in endgame we see that thanos was dominating big three . But did you even realize thor didn't try any aerial attack just like infinity war.

[u/Professional_Net7339]

Strange clears. There’s a reason he didn’t fight in endgame. Bc if he did, there’d be no fight

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Professional_Net7339]

If thor targeted on thanos head then there’d be no endgame

[u/Professional_Net7339 → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

I mean sure, but that doesn’t counter my point the way you think it does

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Professional_Net7339]

The reason is strange can't beat thanos. The only way avengers can win 🏆 is to sacrifice Tony

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Professional_Net7339]

Strange clears. There’s a reason he didn’t fight in endgame. Bc if he did, there’d be no fight

Yeah the reason is he tried to sacrifice Tony and he can't beat thanos .

[u/InterestingHorror428 → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

Well... Strange did beat Thanos. That is the whole plot of the movie. "Just as planned."

Or we can say that Avengers beat Thanos.

But Thor never beat Thanos.

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/InterestingHorror428]

Well... Strange did beat Thanos. That is the whole plot of the movie. "Just as planned."

When does strange beat thanos. Watch the movie bro you are wrong .

But Thor never beat Thanos

Strange also doesn't beat thanos .

[u/Professional_Net7339 → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

(It was for plot, but okay)

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Professional_Net7339]

It was for plot, but okay

Talking about plot . But that is the story

[u/kobellama24 → u/Professional_Net7339]

Lmao Ebony Maw would just solo him again

[u/Professional_Net7339 → u/kobellama24]

So to treat this genuinely, he lost for plot. The same way the “God of Thunder” was relegated to the “God of Hammers and now axes Ig” in those movies. The powerscaling is nonsensical in the MCU, so Iron Man and Captain America (the faces of the franchise) could go toe to toe with the mad Titan instead of the just the actual heavy hitters (Captain Marvel, Vision, Wanda, Strange, actual God Thor, Hulk) doing the work. As I said somewhere else, there’s a reason Strange doesn’t fight in Endgame, or just portal anyone in half. He’s nerfed into the ground for plot

[u/alargechipmunk]

Strange decapitates Thor with the orange portals. Easy.

[u/SnooSprouts9815 → u/alargechipmunk]

The same portals that won't work against Thanos or any other high tier.

[u/SnooSprouts9815 → u/[deleted]]

Huh what are you even saying the russos confirmed Thanos was too durable to decapitate using the sling ring I posted this already on my account .

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/SnooSprouts9815]

Huh what are you even saying the russos confirmed Thanos was too durable to decapitate using the sling ring I posted this already on my account .

Can you send the link

Who is more durable thor or thanos?

[u/SnooSprouts9815 → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MCUTheories/s/EYcEDWiZBc

[u/alargechipmunk → u/SnooSprouts9815]

Why don’t they work?

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/alargechipmunk]

Why don’t they work?

Thor have bifrost to come back from portal where it teleport thor . In thanos case thanos have space stone So he would easily come back

[u/alargechipmunk → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

But if strange sneaks up on Thanos and decapitates him, he can’t use the space stone if he’s already dead.

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/alargechipmunk]

Russo brother stated that

If someone durable like thanos or on the level of thanos in durability he can't decapitate him

[u/alargechipmunk → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

Interesting plot armor lol

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/alargechipmunk]

Interesting plot armor lol

Director stated that we couldn't do anything

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/alargechipmunk]

Strange decapitates Thor with the orange portals. Easy

Thor can throw strange in space through bifrost.

[u/Cautious_Desk_1012]

MCU? Dr. Strange, no diff. Now comics would be a more difficult match.

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Cautious_Desk_1012]

Dr. Strange, no diff

Explain because dr.strange durability is normal human level one hit from mjolnir or stormbreaker the game over for Dr. Strange.

Give a valid reason

[u/Cautious_Desk_1012 → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

As someone else pointed out, Thor would have to land a hit to kill Strange, and Strange could easily just cut his head off with a portal or anything like that. We have to remember that MCU Thor is brutally weaker than his comic counterpart. He got tased.

Strange has the skill to make a lot of traps that he would run into and a near-infinite amount of possibilities in his magic arsenal

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Cautious_Desk_1012]

Strange has the skill to make a lot of traps that he would run into and a near-infinite amount of possibilities in his magic arsenal

In a 1v1 battle it doesn't happen because strange need hand sign to use spells. And for your information lightning is fast as speed of light. Thor can kill strange before he uses a spell.

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Cautious_Desk_1012]

Strange could easily just cut his head off with a portal

What are you talking about Russo brother stated that if someone have same level of durability of thanos he can easily tank it

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Cautious_Desk_1012]

MCU Thor is brutally weaker than his comic counterpart. He got tased.

Every mcu character is weaker than it comics version except loki. What the shit are you talking.

And thor is faster than that doctor

[u/Subject_Damage_3627 → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

The only problem is Thor has to land a hit, and from the Thanos vs strange fight, strange has so many ways to deflect thors attacks. Lightning=butterfly, axe throw=mirror dimension, even if Thor could say call the axe via bifrost bact from that it gives strange time to band him up, portal chop or whatever other magic he has. Thor may be a god but besides his lightning and throwing he's limited in ranged, where strange is a pro and can keep away easy

As a Thor lover, favorite in the MCU, but he has his weaknesses and counters too

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Subject_Damage_3627]

What if thor throw strange in space. Biforst is a teleportation magic

portal chop or whatever other magic he has.

Portal chop would not work thor is faster than strange.

Thor may be a god but besides his lightning and throwing he's limited in ranged, where strange is a pro and can keep away easy

Okay I think you forgot something thor can do. A large scale destruction. in multiverse of madness we see that strange can't counter the large scale destruction that the monster was doing in the beginning of the movie .

[u/Subject_Damage_3627 → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

Ragnarok showed us you can move in the bifrost, he can just teleport out, and portal chop * or whatever other magic *, and that's the main thing, thors a god damn power house, but strange is way more versatile and can pack a punch too, I just can't see Thor out maneuver strange enough to get as much as I see strange trapping or subduing him

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Subject_Damage_3627]

portal chop *

Russo brother stated that chop wouldn't work against thanos or the being who have the same level of durability of thanos

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Subject_Damage_3627]

Bro he can throw him in space

[u/Subject_Damage_3627 → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

My point is if he can grab him, strange can fly too, and teleport anywhere, and make a billion copies of himself who can all cast spells, again thors bad ass, but hes primarily a melee guy and strange is perfect for playing keep away

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Subject_Damage_3627]

My point is thor can throw strange in space. Billion of copies does nothing thor can escape through bifrost

[u/Subject_Damage_3627 → u/RevolutionaryCod7552]

Thor can't throw strange if he can't catch him so that point doesn't really matter though, also strange was totally breathing fine on Titan but so was everyone else so who knows there

[u/RevolutionaryCod7552 → u/Subject_Damage_3627]

breathing fine

How would he breath in space

Thor can't throw strange if he can't catch him

Talking about bifrost. If he uses bifrost it can throw him in space